Rice, in Baghdad, calls al-Sadr coward

Monday 21st April, 05:36 AM JST

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adaydream at 10:31 PM JST - 21st April

How come Condi doesn't call the rich boys and girls in this country cowards?

dano2002 - First of all, the only people who listen to this guy are the people who live in the slums. he is the leader of the poor who are the least educated people in Iraq. how hard is it to brain wash kids w/o jobs or a future?

It's the poor that are the fighters for this country. It isn't the rich that take the oath and physically protect this country. It isn't the brightest minds that are doing this fighting, but Condi goes in the cloak of darkness and calls Al-Sadr a coward. Look who's calling the kettle black.

The US's military isn't a military of the affluent in the United States, it's a military build on the backs of the poor.
sailwind at 10:37 PM JST - 21st April

The US's military isn't a military of the affluent in the United States, it's a military build on the backs of the poor.

Wrong Answer adaydream

By assigning each recruit the median 1999 household income for his hometown ZIP code as determined from Census 2000, the mean income for 2004 recruits was $43,122 (in 1999 dollars). For 2005 recruits, it was $43,238 (in 1999 dollars). These are increases over the mean incomes for the 1999 cohort ($41,141) and 2003 cohort ($42,822). The national median published in Census 2000 was $41,994. This indicates that, on average, the 2004 and 2005 recruit populations come from even wealthier areas than their peers who enlisted in 1999 and 2003.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.cfm
basashi at 10:53 PM JST - 21st April

Sailwind: too simplistic. Even within these populations, there's different distributions of wealth. I am sure anyone earning the medium wage doesn't fill compelled to go off to Iraq.

smithinjapan: Too bloody right. Give her a rifle and send her off. Let's listen to her blustering then.
adaydream at 03:43 AM JST - 22nd April

sailwind,

I just read this article that says that moral waivers were up over 50% for 2006/07. I don't think these numbers were considered either.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Armydoubledfelonywaiversforrecruits0421.html
4freedom at 08:17 PM JST - 22nd April

Condi has some "grit"! It is the world's love affair with "politics of appeasement" that have allowed the growth of butcherous governments hiding behind so called Islamic law. Sadr is a coward.
presto345 at 08:21 PM JST - 22nd April

Maybe I have it all wrong, but to me a coward in this conflict is someone who kills innocent people, civilians, from a safe distance, and that is exactly what this Al-Sadr has been doing.
theperilouspea at 09:28 PM JST - 22nd April

Maybe I have it all wrong, but it seems cowardly to kill innocent people , civilians , from a safe distance with pilotless drones , missiles , artillery , and oh umm ... bombing ! That is precisely what this the American adventure has been doing , nest' pas ? Perhaps I am mistaken , but I don't think so .
presto345 at 09:41 PM JST - 22nd April

The Perilous Pea, The difference is that the US and its allies have been trying to stabilize the region, and we are not discussing the success rate. Al-Sadr's aim is to continue de-stabilizing the country.
theperilouspea at 10:10 PM JST - 22nd April

Those are contentions with which there is as long a contrasting view as there is short supply of evidence to provide any support . In fact one elementary view suggests the fundamental difficulty regarding stabilisation is tied directly to the unilateral American military force being the central problem . This is a point addressed by Iraqi patrioits . American response has been and continues to be pointing fingers , insult the indigenous population and , oh , respond militarily to a political situation . Perhaps I am mistaken , but I don't think so ...
presto345 at 11:12 PM JST - 22nd April

Those are contentions with which there is as long a contrasting view as there is short supply of evidence to provide any support So, if these are contentions, does that mean the US are not actually trying to stabilize the area but pursuing different interests? Is that what you are alleging? The US responding militarily to a political situation. Isn't that the same then as what the non-aligned militias in Iraq, including this war lord Al-Sadr has been doing? Perhaps I am . . . whatever
theperilouspea at 01:12 AM JST - 23rd April

The unsettling idea that a campaign to sell the ideas of WMD is now understood as a fact with notably dubious , strained , and tenuous pedigree is no longer contentious . So if a concerted effort to invade Iraq was brought about by indirect and unstated objectives with a straining the bowel pedigree ...

The elementary , universal (not the disgraced neocons !) view suggesting the fundamental difficulty regarding stabilisation being tied directly to the unilateral American military force as the central problem is not a mystery . A point adroitly addressed by Iraqi patrioits , yet , somehow mysteriously left unanswered by the mighty diplomatic corps of the proud unbending unilateral American occupying authorities . A simple enough question .

The US military providing an often irrational , along with unaccountable mercenaries , incendiary response's to the indiginous peoples of Iraq . These Iraqi's who now have been made to long for those that were once pariahs . Including the use of force with the native Iraqi political figure , Diplomat , and Cleric Al-Sadr who due to his great intelligence and skill has attempted to work around the blunt edge of military forces only to be ignored ? Perhaps it is too much to ask that Iraqi's in their own land be given equal footing to the miltary force occupying their land . Whatever ...
Zaphod at 01:17 AM JST - 23rd April

presto345:

"Al-Sadr's aim is to continue de-stabilizing the country."

Says who? Instability is not a long-term goal. Like all muslim clerics/warlords, of cours Al-Sadr wants stability eventually.... a stable state where Sharia is the law, the mullahs rule, the woment are under cover, the Kaffirs are either dead or pay the Jihzay, and the homosexuals have all been disappeared. There is nothing "unstable" about this. Unpleasant, yes, but not unstable.
redacted at 10:40 AM JST - 23rd April

There are reports that Mooky's own family is turning on him...

"Iraq’s Josef Al-Sadr says that Muqtada Al- Sadr has tainted Our Family Reputation; --We will deal with him internally.

Alseyed Josef Alsadar a member of the honored Sadar family wrote a letter to Alrafedain news (Nida'a al Rafidain News) which said: "Muqtada al-Sadr has tainted the reputation of this respected family, and the family disowns Muqtada. We are as innocent of him as the wolf is of the blood of Josef (Biblical (Old Testament I believe) and Koranic reference). The family is working on ways to discipline him with in the family. Consultations for this are held at the highest level to come up with punishments for its rogue son."

http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/32105/
japanyesterday at 03:36 PM JST - 23rd April

i agree 117%. those guys are a bunch of clowns. Should be glad americans arent stooping to their immature war tactics.
Zaphod at 12:25 PM JST - 27th April

japanyesterday:

" i agree 117%. those guys are a bunch of clowns. Should be glad americans arent stooping to their immature war tactics. "

I agree many more percent. But remember the Americans have stood by while the Shiite government wrote the Sharia into the Iraqi constitution (which had been secular before). Now who is the real clown?