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F-bombs dropping by the cluster in PG-13 movies

Arts & Culture Aug. 27, 2011 - 05:14AM JST ( 14 )

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PixilatedAug. 27, 2011 - 05:36PM JST

Granted that I'm not a parent, but I personally think there's a lot worse things going on in the world than to worry about kids hearing words in movies that they're probably hearing their friends at school or in their neighborhood saying anyway (and probably already themselves use when parents and teachers aren't around), and probably hear their parents use at home as well.
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steve@CPFCAug. 27, 2011 - 05:51PM JST

This is a s;ide in decnecy and morals. Parents should be very carefull about these matters, especially fathers. It is ok if a boy hears the odd foul word, they use all the time in the playground anyway. For girls though, foul language is unacceptable even in adulthood and this kind of language must play no part in their lives.
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Spidapig24Aug. 27, 2011 - 06:55PM JST

steve@CPFC,

So its ok for boys to swear and not girls, sorry but that is the most warped logic l have ever heard. Some swear words that where "bad" in your day are now commonplace words in this day and age. Am l condoning it? No. Just being realistic, people swear its a fact of life. If you swear in certain circumstances does it mean your unintelligent, un lady like or whatever. No it just means your human. Steve after reading some of your posts l think it is time you moved from the 50's to present day. Things have changed time to catch up with the times.
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steve@CPFCAug. 27, 2011 - 07:29PM JST

Spidapig24; Of course there is a diffenrce, boys grow to men and start goingd rinking with the lads and to sport events with colourfull languge. Boys need to be pepared for this is a bit of foul language is ok, but father must let them know it is not clever to swear in daily life. As for girks, when they grow up their social activities such as shopping,museum trips etc have no foul language, decent ladies never swear. The fact the movies (or films as i call them) shows a lowering of standards and a lack of respect in all aspects of society. Was the 50's so bad? A father being addressed as sir by his children has a lot more dignity than one with abusive badly behaved kids.
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yabitsAug. 27, 2011 - 08:29PM JST

The F-bomb is given humorous treatment in the now-classic holiday movie Christmas Story -- which is supposed to take place sometime in the 1930s. The older son in the family, Ralphie, is helping his dad change a tire on a winter's night and accidentally drops the hub cap holding the lug nuts before letting go with "the queen mother of all swear words."

When Ralphie is asked where he heard that word, the narrator of the film (Ralphie as an adult) comments that he'd heard his old man use that word just about every day.

Was the 50's so bad?

No. But a warped, distorted, false view of them certainly is.

For girls though, foul language is unacceptable even in adulthood and this kind of language must play no part in their lives.

Uh-huh, no part except when hearing the "menfolk" use it. That thinking is pretty effed up.
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steve@CPFCAug. 27, 2011 - 10:36PM JST

yabits; I nevers aid it was acceptable for men to use this language in front of women. Ok to comment on my posts but not to Inaccuratley assume what i am thinking.
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FarmboyAug. 28, 2011 - 10:00AM JST

male and female trash talk have become a summertime staple

I think the overuse of the word sounds ridiculous, and I don't believe this kind of language occurs nearly as much in life as it does in the movies, except out of the mouths of trashy people, men or women, or people who are so weak that they have to resort to strong language to get noticed. Many people I know use the word occasionally, but others don't use it at all. I don't find it to be a mark of maturity, and don't understand how the ratings system uses it in this way. I also think it sets up people learning English to an unpleasant surprise when they find out how using this language lowers people's opinions of them.

It seems more that the movies are deathly afraid of a PG rating, as they don't feel people will come to a movie with this rating, so they go through and look for opportunities to move closer to an R rating by inserting bad language, unnecessary violence, adult themes, a boob, or a butt. It gets ridiculous.
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SmorkianAug. 28, 2011 - 11:38PM JST

Was the 50's so bad?

Actually, yeah, unless you were a white male. Why do people want a return to the morality of this age? Minorities around the world were treated as sub-human. Large parts of the world were still ruled by colonial powers. Women had few rights (I know you like this part, steve@CPFC). Why should movies today aspire to fit into the morality of that backwards, awful world?
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OracleAug. 29, 2011 - 07:27AM JST

officially allowed one nonsexual F-word per script

Well, thank goodness it was non-sexual. If anyone under 13 got an inkling about sex, it would rip a hole in the fabric of space, and the Earth would be sucked in and destroyed! So this explicative is just fine and dandy and wholesome even, just so long as any hint of that dastardly, evil, dirty concept of sex is completely neutered. :)
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Sioux ChefAug. 29, 2011 - 09:48AM JST

For girls though, foul language is unacceptable even in adulthood and this kind of language must play no part in their lives.

Steve@CPFC - It is unacceptable for women to use foul language? I'm amazed at how you can work your dated, sexist views into just about any topic.
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UptonPark AlfAug. 29, 2011 - 10:21AM JST

Is it acceptable for women to swear? No, it bleeding is not!! In my younger days the f word and the like were not in table any films.Foul language is not acceptable if the audience is children. A line should be drawn and any television or film should have a warning about obscenities. It should be illegal for under 18`s to see anything wth swearing.
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FarmboyAug. 29, 2011 - 01:28PM JST

Saying the "F" word more than occasionally is NOT sexual, and is NOT immoral. It is low-class.
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BreitbartVictoriousAug. 30, 2011 - 01:09PM JST

smorkian, re the 50s

Actually, yeah, unless you were a white male. Why do people want a return to the morality of this age?

They don't, obviously. But the moral relativism we have had since the 60s is no improvement.

Minorities around the world were treated as sub-human.

Not least of all by other 'minorities.'

Large parts of the world were still ruled by colonial powers.

And many, in the decades preceding the 50s, had seen things like life span and quality of life improve vastly - provided the colonial power had not been the Ottoman one, the Japanese one, or the Soviet one...

Why should movies today aspire to fit into the morality of that backwards, awful world?

Yes, yes, so much more satisfying to see Denzel Washington win the Oscar for Best Actor for a film as wretched and disturbing as Training Day than say, what Gary Cooper or Alec Guiness or Yul Brunner won the same award for back in the 50s.
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SmorkianAug. 30, 2011 - 08:54PM JST

But the moral relativism we have had since the 60s is no improvement.

Actually, yeah it is. A vast improvement.

And many, in the decades preceding the 50s, had seen things like life span and quality of life improve vastly

Are you advocating colonial rule? That's just odd.

Yes, yes, so much more satisfying to see Denzel Washington win the Oscar for Best Actor for a film as wretched and disturbing as Training Day than say, what Gary Cooper or Alec Guiness or Yul Brunner won the same award for back in the 50s.

Training Day wasn't a very good movie but Denzel was quite good in it. The Oscars are just awards for Hollywood to honor its own, not a litmus test for the state of the cultural wars.