Yu Darvish makes his mark on and off the field
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roughneck
At 21, is he already a father! WOW! Too much pressure at too early age.
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kitzrow
Pressure? The guy is the real deal and pitched in the pressure cooker of Koshien Stadium. Not many ballplayers marry that young, but his future is all mapped out for him. And his kids will be adorable.
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smithinjapan
Good for Darvish... not so much the young fatherhood so many people seem to be touching on, but for his willingness to win one for the team. Good luck, amigo! I just pray that they don't start attacking you for not being Japanese if you don't win (it happens all too often). The pressure has got to be immense.
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rjd_jr
Smith, I've never heard of any sports star being attacked for not being Japanese, if they don't win. And Darvish has Japanese blood in him, so he's Japanese ain't he?
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bushlover
Yu who?
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northlondon
rjd_jr,
Just because you have Japanese blood in you the Japanese authorities don't allow you immediate Japanese nationality. Yu Darvish recently had to make a choice on his nationality. Yes, he is Japanese because he was brought up here and went to school here, but he is actually half-Iranian and half-Japanese. Unfortunately this is one of those right-wing countries that forces people of mixed-race to choose a nationality when they reach adulthood, which Darvish had to go through.
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northlondon
bushlover,
Maybe you should stick to amusing choices of user name on discussion websites. If you don't know who Yu Darvish is, and that includes any American lovers of pro baseball, then you obviously don't follow baseball at all.
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WhatJapanThinks
northlondon, you are mistaken. From the time he was born until he made the choice (just like all dual nationality children in Japan have to make the choice between the ages of 20 to 22), he was both Japanese and Iranian. Once he becomes an adult, because Japan does not recognise dual nationality, according to the law he has to choose one or the other.
Oh, and here's a note from the British Embassy in Iran's web site:
Does that make Iran even more right-wing than Japan?
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northlondon
Whatthe,
Whoah, hold on a minute. Who mentioned anything about Iran being more right-wing than Japan blah, blah ? I'm from the UK and we also have that bad rule. Don't go jumping to assumptions. My point is that no country should make adults make a decision on one country when they have parents from different countries. And my post was in response to another poster who assumed that Darvish was automatically Japanese just because his mother is Japanese. It doesn't work that way pal. Once he became an adult Darvish was forced to choose one or the other, which means that he does not have that automatic choice.
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northlondon
Quoting Chris Isaak lyrics on JT ? And I had such a cool 'mental' image of you up until then.
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keech2
In the swituations of international marriage, the children,usually, have to choose a nationality at a certain age. This is what Yu did. He could legally use his Japanese passport or, if he had one, his Iranian passport until the age of 20 when he decided to accept full Japanese citizenship. Not a problem. Rjd, what about Asashoryu? Do you believe that he would have been so vilified by the media if he was a full-blooded Japanese wrestler? People made more of a fuss over his lie than of the stablemaster and the three wrestlers who appear to have beaten someone to death? northlondon, those are not Chris Isaak lyrics. They are Cole Porter lyrics.
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northlondon
keech,
Not a problem ? How would you feel if you had a mother from one country and a father from another and you were told that at the age of 20 you had to choose one passport and one of those countries to live in. Not a problem ?
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redacted
"How would you feel if you had a mother from one country and a father from another and you were told that at the age of 20 you had to choose one passport and one of those countries to live in."
No brainer on this one. Iran is a hellhole. Young Mr Darvish hit the jackpot. He was born here, not there, has Japanese citizenship and can, if he chooses, one day ply his trade in America where he'll make more than entire Iranian villages ever will. He, his wife, his parents, his in-laws, his kids, his grandkids and their kids are set.
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keech2
Northlondon,
I was stating that from a immigration/naturalization situation that it was not a problem. From a personal view, I imagine it would be quite difficult. However, considering the fact that Darvish has grown up in Japan and has only visited his father's homeland two or three times, I believe that his choice may not have been so difficult for him. I do like the fact that he is using his earnings to help those less fortunate then himself.
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northlondon
redacted,
As my mother is Iranian, and although I am not a huge fan of the current Islamic republic (more of a Shah fan myself) and I myself am British, I'll respond without any of that emotional stuff attached.
I imagine you're one of those people who didn't bother with the education thing at school. You know, why have any interest in world history when you can drink cans of brew in front of the tv all week.
You should lay off too much of that CNN/ BBC hype as well. There are some beautiful towns and villages in Iran. Plus the food, plus the history. Iran is a hellhole ? Compared to where ? Compton LA ? Downtown Washington DC ? South London ? Toxteth Liverpool ?
The argument redacted, was about why Darvish had to go through that nationality choice thing. No-one is talking about making money here.
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USNinJapan2
I have parents of differing nationalities and from distinct cultures and was raised bi-culturally, but I just can't imagine having two nationalities. Just don't understand how someone can have allegiance to multiple countries/governments.
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Zer00
He should shave those armpits! Must be getting really stinky after the game! Not that it would keep too many J-women off him :D
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BigDudeGSO
As my mother is Iranian, and although I am not a huge fan of the current Islamic republic (more of a Shah fan myself) and I myself am British, I'll respond without any of that emotional stuff attached.
I imagine you're one of those people who didn't bother with the education thing at school. You know, why have any interest in world history when you can drink cans of brew in front of the tv all week.
You should lay off too much of that CNN/ BBC hype as well. There are some beautiful towns and villages in Iran. Plus the food, plus the history. Iran is a hellhole ? Compared to where ? Compton LA ? Downtown Washington DC ? South London ? Toxteth Liverpool ?
The argument redacted, was about why Darvish had to go through that nationality choice thing. No-one is talking about making money here.
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spudman
usninjapan can you love two kids at the same time? same with countries.
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northlondon
spudman,
You rekindled my faith in posters on this site. Thank you. I will argue for loving both of your parents cultures and I will argue against that right-wing immigration law that forces young adults to choose one passport and one nationality.
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USNinJapan2
spudman
Yes naturally I can love two children. But I don't believe that's the same as having two nationalities. Loving your own children or two cultures you grew up with is one thing. Claiming citizenship and pledging allegiance to more than one country is another. How would you feel about a member of the military or a leader in government who also holds a second nationality? I believe it's a conflict of interest, as do many governments around the world. I'm all for someone who embodies multiple cultures and backgrounds, but I have a problem with someone who claims multiple nationalities.
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cleo
The strong emotional link a person has with country A doesn't suddenly vanish overnight because he acquires (or already holds) the nationality of country B.
If I or my kids were to join the Japanese military (not very likely, I grant you) there's no way we would be ready to say, invade the UK, regardless of the colours of our passports. The same goes for the 'pure' Japanese side of the family - should they be stripped of their Japanese nationality because they have strong emotional ties with another country? Should every 'mixed' marriage be stripped of its nationality?
Or should governments just get with the programme and acknowledge that people do have multiple allegiances, then get on with dealing with it in a practical way?
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spudman
USNinJapan2 "I have a problem with someone who claims multiple nationalities." well thats your problem but I have no problem with it. Re your military case: how about excusing oneself due to conflict of interest? Happens all the time in lawyer circles.
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GW
USinjpn
surely if all these companies can be "global citizens" that REAL people shud also be abe to as well, yr line of thinking simply doesnt fit the reality or more & more people each day, as Cleo says surely we can find ways to accomodate this type of thing rather than trying to bury it
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