2 U.S. Marines nabbed for breaking into restaurant in Okinawa

Thursday 08th May, 03:44 PM JST

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sailwind at 12:47 PM JST - 9th May

Sailwind who happens to fall into my definition of 'you guys'.

Just because I happen to point out that a zero crime rate isn't based on reality and to expect that is unrealistic, and that every single incident no matter how minor get's reported in the J-media when it involves some yahoo in the service that does something stupid, does not make me a 'you guys'. I served my country for twenty years and I have the Honorable discharge to prove it.

Thanks and no disrespect toward intended by this post. But I prefer also that you don't lump me in the 'you guys' catagory either, I know how to behave myself as 99 percent of my Military brethen know how to also in japan.
CMEANDU26 at 12:54 PM JST - 9th May

Did they commit a crime? I mean we have her side of the story but how do we know that she didn't see two drunk Marines and make an accuation? We don't know what happened. But if we only get her side of the story of what she told the police then they are guilty.

GET BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY before we start pointing fingers.
Loki520 at 11:45 PM JST - 9th May

Vox,

I'm not gonna worry about the local crime issue. This is their country and they can carry it to hell in a handbasket if they want. But we, and yes I am one of them, are AMBASSADOR's of the US to this country. It's NOT a cliche. We are professional warriors, and we should damn well be expected to behave like it.

Everytime a military member commits a crime, we go thru the "here THEY go again" rants from those who would use any excuse to point out flaws. I, for one, am tired of it.

You'll notice that in the past, and it still applies, that I am one of the ones that will get on JT and point on the minimal percentage of overall military members who misbehave in Japan. I believe it, and it is true.

But let's face facts. Okinawa, and Yokosuka, have gone thru a spurt of quite negative news lately. Alleged rape, murder of a taxi-driver, teens robbing taxi's with an MP assist, so forth and so on. The message has been beat into their bloody heads by now and some STILL don't get it. Their behavior not only AFFECTS each one of us, it REFLECTS bad on all of us.
Loki520 at 11:53 PM JST - 9th May

GET BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY before we start pointing fingers.

No. They are guilty of violating the curfew, which is a legal order. Hammer them for that.
OssanULTRA at 03:56 AM JST - 10th May

"Look, as much as I've been against US military in the past, and am against certain wars, etc., the collective attempts to identify ANYTHING the military personnel do as a crime is going WAY above and beyond. If only the Japanese looked in the mirror..."

Smith...if the two idiots were Japanese and the owner lady returned to find them after breaking and entering into the place, are you saying that she would NOT HAVE CALLED the police? And that the only reason she did so was because they were US military? I think that most rational folks would find that rather hard to believe.
Jubilee at 06:44 AM JST - 10th May

For all you people out there who like to self-righteously call names and judge others, the guys were definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time and that is absolutely ALL YOU know at this point.
thundercat at 11:43 AM JST - 12th May

jubilee...

Wrong place at the wrong time? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I guess you could say that for any crime!
rtrhead1 at 08:12 AM JST - 13th May

Yes, they are guilty of violating the curfew, but last time I checked, the GOJ has nothing to do with it. This article isn't about what will happen to them by the UCMJ, therefore, Loki520, your point is moot. But yes, they will be hammered by the USMC.
esoteric at 01:49 PM JST - 13th May

**Breaking and entering is just that, if they broke into your place would you trust them again?
VoXman at 01:27 AM JST - 14th May

Loki520

Totally agree with you that we're all sick and tired of the issue. I feel it everyday here in Yokosuka. But fact is the problem is not on the deck plates its at the top of the leadership. You can't expect 9 weeks to turn a person into a "professional Warrior". It's just not going to happen. Sure I am sick of these violent crimes that should not occur at all. We can get a handle on that by better screening..."as they used to do a long time ago" (for all of you doubters out there). But its the petty BS crimes that the US Mil keeps getting beat up on that disturbs me. Frankly, the Jpress is ALLOWED to keep the pressure up so the JGov can get more concessions from the US Gov. Think I am full of it. Read the SOFA and then look at any case since 1995, and you'll see that SOFA is in regards to it primary duty to protect US Servicemembers from unreasonable foreign courts and prosecutors who hinder due process. To provide at least a semblance of US Maranda rights. Yes, this it what congress intends when they agree to ratify a SOFA. But in today's world in Japan the US Mil just hands the guys over first second they get accused of anything. The US Navy couldn't wait to dump the Nigerian on the J Police, but the JPolice waited 2 weeks before submitting the supperficial paperwork. "Its a here ya go" world instead of wait.... what evidence do you have, before we consider a hand over.... no attempt to abide by the SOFA and the USGov just plays along until someone here complains to their congressmen and then a little light is shed on it. Or did you think that the Admirals and Generals dropped the civilian base confinement out of the goodness of their hearts. Nope pressure building from individual congressmen making inquiries about civil rights violations by the Mil on US Civilians.....
Jubilee at 09:40 PM JST - 14th May

thundercat...some of my first comment has been deleted and what you see was not the sum total of what I had written. But even a lack of details still brings out judgemental, childish, name-calling in others.
Jubilee at 09:54 PM JST - 14th May

Innocent until proven guilty...censorship...I'm just not used to those things NOT being the rule.
Loki520 at 09:57 PM JST - 14th May

RTR, the point is NOT moot. If they had been following the curfew, they would not have been out there at 12:30 to even get accused of trespassing. It's not only moot, it is the MOST moot point of all. A curfew was put in place to avoid this type of thing. HAMMER THEM hard.

Vox, your wrong... the USN "couldn't wait to dump" the nigerian is a verifiably false statement.
Jubilee at 11:56 PM JST - 14th May

I was not referring to the curfew at all. They broke the curfew, should (and will) most certainly receive USMC repurcussions, yes, it's a 'given'.. What "I" am referring to is all the ugly name calling and lack of due process. Loki, here's a concept. Why don't you go HAMMER the nails sticking outta your deck boards.
rtrhead1 at 03:45 PM JST - 15th May

What I meant when I said the point was moot, was that it seemed like you were implying that they should be tried by the Japanese courts for violating the curfew when the Japanese have no law on the books for adults pertaining to curfews. I see how my post was taken the wrong way. I didn't realize that you meant they should be hammered by the military for violating curfew, not the japanese.