How few would stand up and declare that this man does not deserve to die? As usual, the death penalty advocates miss the point. The point is that the death penalty can not be taken back, and the police and the courts make errors. They even sometimes make "intentional" errors.
How quickly people forget the guy that just released from prison a few months ago after decades in prison. How quickly people forget, especially death penalty advocates.
This guy might deserve death. But if it turns out he was innocent, will the death advocates even bother to put a flower on his grave? I would not hold my breath.
Investigator: Well said. Also, considering that also in JT today is an article on a forming study group to discuss the use of video recording interrogations. The system is far from fair and error-free in Japan and therefore no one should 'deserve' the death penalty. Peronally, I think a life sentence is a far worse punishment anyway.
One thing about the death sentance is it deprives the privilage of living from a person or person that deprived others of the right to live. Fair is fair.
I beg to differ. While I do not condone such crimes, I believe having these guys suffer and experience hell right here on earth till their last breath would be a more ideal punishment, I mean something that we would understand. Gallows are an easy way out. Moreover, none of us here have ever experienced death so we don't even actually know what comes after death, nor will we ever understand until it's our turn. To me, it's more insulting to the victims. further more, we are also commting the same crime that we are accusing them for.
Why law still appllied in Japan sentencing death peanaltiy for pwoerless people.why not make good society by some relgion and ethics?
Is there any ethic and moral in Japanese society ? Only money motive driving then accident happens.Where there are too many jobless people what goverment did?Need better counseling in every ward for all people.
Proffesor beat me to it - if he is guilty, the death penalty is too good a punishment.
But yeah, we did just have that guy released from jail after decades. Probably a good thing that he didnt get the death penalty eh?
So killing them would solve the problem (e.g. cashing in on insurance)?
He wanted to get his anger out?
They (or someone close to them) caused his money trouble?
As Gandhi said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Death is an easy way out when you try to comprehend how boring and stressful it would be to be locked up for even one week, let alone 20 or 30 years.....
As Gandhi said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Death is an easy way out when you try to comprehend how boring and stressful it would be to be locked up for even one week, let alone 20 or 30 years.....
And yet if asked, how many of these people would prefer life in a cage, as opposed to death? Try again. The Death Penalty is the final punishment for a reason. Indeed, for some people it doesn't seem like its enough. This guy for instance should be executed 3 times, but life doesn't work that way.
This is going to sound cold, but never underestimate the economic implications of keeping someone in prison for life versus exercising the death penalty. The former is an ongoing expense with no return on the investment, so to speak, while the latter is a one-time expense administered on a case-by-case basis. A prisoner requires meals, clothes, guarding, and space. More inmates means more space, which leads to overcrowding and eventually the need for more or bigger facilities, which bring with them MORE staffing, construction costs, relocation costs, property costs, the whole gamut.
"Cost effectiveness" is a crass argument to use when advocating for the death penalty, especially given the possibility of putting an innocent person to death, but you can bet its a part of the issue. It's not the ONLY factor in the case for capital punishment, it is certainly ONE factor. Not saying it's right or wrong -- just making the point.
"Cost effectiveness"...hmmm...it certainly is one factor. Another factor...defending guilty people.
Of course we can trust the police to gather all the evidence. We trust that judges never make mistakes. We trust the system completely to make sure it's only guilty people in prison and on death row.
So let's cut costs further. Why waste money on 'trials' when it's clear that people are guilty?
Nice argument. Cost effectiveness (even if it's one part of the issue)
This is going to sound cold, but never underestimate the economic implications of keeping someone in prison for life versus exercising the death penalty. The former is an ongoing expense with no return on the investment, so to speak, while the latter is a one-time expense administered on a case-by-case basis. A prisoner requires meals, clothes, guarding, and space. More inmates means more space, which leads to overcrowding and eventually the need for more or bigger facilities, which bring with them MORE staffing, construction costs, relocation costs, property costs, the whole gamut.
Well, the thing is that as many prisoners stay on death row for years or decades, they still require the same amount of money to be spent on food, clothes, space and guarding as the other prisoners, and they take up huge amounts of time and money in appeals. In practice, I wouldn't say capital punishment is cost effective in the least.
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Molenir at 01:30 PM JST - 14th October
Anyone want to defend the use of the death penalty on this guy? By all means, feel free to try.
Investigator at 01:51 PM JST - 14th October
How few would stand up and declare that this man does not deserve to die? As usual, the death penalty advocates miss the point. The point is that the death penalty can not be taken back, and the police and the courts make errors. They even sometimes make "intentional" errors.
How quickly people forget the guy that just released from prison a few months ago after decades in prison. How quickly people forget, especially death penalty advocates.
This guy might deserve death. But if it turns out he was innocent, will the death advocates even bother to put a flower on his grave? I would not hold my breath.
dolphingirl at 02:06 PM JST - 14th October
Investigator: Well said. Also, considering that also in JT today is an article on a forming study group to discuss the use of video recording interrogations. The system is far from fair and error-free in Japan and therefore no one should 'deserve' the death penalty. Peronally, I think a life sentence is a far worse punishment anyway.
Proffesor at 02:26 PM JST - 14th October
One thing about the death sentance is it deprives the privilage of living from a person or person that deprived others of the right to live. Fair is fair.
I beg to differ. While I do not condone such crimes, I believe having these guys suffer and experience hell right here on earth till their last breath would be a more ideal punishment, I mean something that we would understand. Gallows are an easy way out. Moreover, none of us here have ever experienced death so we don't even actually know what comes after death, nor will we ever understand until it's our turn. To me, it's more insulting to the victims. further more, we are also commting the same crime that we are accusing them for.
I rest my case.
hanadecaka at 04:14 PM JST - 14th October
Why law still appllied in Japan sentencing death peanaltiy for pwoerless people.why not make good society by some relgion and ethics? Is there any ethic and moral in Japanese society ? Only money motive driving then accident happens.Where there are too many jobless people what goverment did?Need better counseling in every ward for all people.
dbung10 at 04:53 PM JST - 14th October
Proffesor beat me to it - if he is guilty, the death penalty is too good a punishment. But yeah, we did just have that guy released from jail after decades. Probably a good thing that he didnt get the death penalty eh?
blvtzpk at 06:55 PM JST - 14th October
Any reason why he did this? All we get is:
So killing them would solve the problem (e.g. cashing in on insurance)? He wanted to get his anger out? They (or someone close to them) caused his money trouble?
Or is it simple the "I was under stress" defense?
BBLeo at 07:21 PM JST - 14th October
It is time to hang him now!!! At his age he isn't any good as murderer to society.
knews at 11:09 PM JST - 14th October
As Gandhi said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Death is an easy way out when you try to comprehend how boring and stressful it would be to be locked up for even one week, let alone 20 or 30 years.....
Molenir at 12:11 AM JST - 15th October
And yet if asked, how many of these people would prefer life in a cage, as opposed to death? Try again. The Death Penalty is the final punishment for a reason. Indeed, for some people it doesn't seem like its enough. This guy for instance should be executed 3 times, but life doesn't work that way.
knews at 12:14 AM JST - 15th October
Molenir
You may be surprised how many hope to be killed by the government. Some admit it and some don't.
knews at 01:26 AM JST - 15th October
(Those who have killed others I mean).
mnemosyne23 at 01:29 AM JST - 15th October
This is going to sound cold, but never underestimate the economic implications of keeping someone in prison for life versus exercising the death penalty. The former is an ongoing expense with no return on the investment, so to speak, while the latter is a one-time expense administered on a case-by-case basis. A prisoner requires meals, clothes, guarding, and space. More inmates means more space, which leads to overcrowding and eventually the need for more or bigger facilities, which bring with them MORE staffing, construction costs, relocation costs, property costs, the whole gamut.
"Cost effectiveness" is a crass argument to use when advocating for the death penalty, especially given the possibility of putting an innocent person to death, but you can bet its a part of the issue. It's not the ONLY factor in the case for capital punishment, it is certainly ONE factor. Not saying it's right or wrong -- just making the point.
forinagai at 06:43 AM JST - 15th October
"Cost effectiveness"...hmmm...it certainly is one factor. Another factor...defending guilty people.
Of course we can trust the police to gather all the evidence. We trust that judges never make mistakes. We trust the system completely to make sure it's only guilty people in prison and on death row.
So let's cut costs further. Why waste money on 'trials' when it's clear that people are guilty?
Nice argument. Cost effectiveness (even if it's one part of the issue)
Simon_Foston at 08:31 AM JST - 15th October
Well, the thing is that as many prisoners stay on death row for years or decades, they still require the same amount of money to be spent on food, clothes, space and guarding as the other prisoners, and they take up huge amounts of time and money in appeals. In practice, I wouldn't say capital punishment is cost effective in the least.