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Canadian rock band Sum 41 singer hospitalized in Osaka after attack

Crime Aug. 07, 2010 - 07:55AM JST ( 48 )

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my2senseAug. 07, 2010 - 10:21AM JST

Rare.... unknown...but would be nice to know if they were locals or ? Hey some14some where are you?
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MoBass4uAug. 07, 2010 - 10:53AM JST

Probably locals since "gaijin" was not sprinkled generously in the "report".
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Stardot1988Aug. 07, 2010 - 10:54AM JST

OMG,
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movieguyAug. 07, 2010 - 11:06AM JST

@MoBass4u - You are so right. Had there even been an inkling of a "gaijin" connection it would have been mentioned in each paragraph.
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mikihouseAug. 07, 2010 - 11:14AM JST

Generally, Japanese don't attack gaijins unless provoked so there must be more than the reported story. They wrote on their website that their frontman was attacked but no reason or motive was written so I will be waiting for more details.
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crashblossomsAug. 07, 2010 - 12:17PM JST

this is terrible news for fans.
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spudmanAug. 07, 2010 - 12:17PM JST

Mikihouse: not at all Three against one sounds like typical young punk attacks. Happens against whoever they meet; old men, guys walking solo, gaijin. Whoever. If this dude wasn't a celebrity this wouldn't make the news so Mikihouse what do you mean generally?
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FoxieAug. 07, 2010 - 01:03PM JST

At least they will be little bit more famous now.
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smithinjapanAug. 07, 2010 - 01:04PM JST

They were supposed to go on for Summer Sonic tomorrow. Shame.
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Zenny11Aug. 07, 2010 - 01:09PM JST

No mention of who first laid the attitude on.

Doubt that he was attacked out of the blue, that is very rare.

3-1 are not that bad odds for a rocker, can be won. :P
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LagunaAug. 07, 2010 - 01:11PM JST

Unknown band member attacked by unknown assailants. Next! Lord, I love August.
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MookooAug. 07, 2010 - 01:13PM JST

If you go into the wrong type of bar, the Japanese will attack without provocation. In fact, they'll provoke you then attack whether you react or just try to leave. They could have walked unknowingly into a Yak bar, and got a beatdown as a result.
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SargeAug. 07, 2010 - 01:17PM JST

"Whibley was attacked in a bar"

I'll bet alcohol was involved.
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taiko666Aug. 07, 2010 - 01:29PM JST

Generally, Japanese don't attack gaijins unless provoked

Define "provoked."

Simply asking a Japanese DJ to turn the volume down can get you killed (Scott Tucker.)

And on one of my few visits to Roppongi, a Finnish mate of mine started chatting to a Japanese girl in Meuse. Next thing he knew he was on the deck after having been brained with a nearly full beer bottle by a chinpira.
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morriconeloverAug. 07, 2010 - 01:30PM JST

Seeing that there are many types of bars in Osaka, they could randomly have walked into a place that was a private members club and problems could have occurred when they were refused entrance. Or it could have been a prostitution-type of bar, or a yakuza hangout. Unfortunately the article doesnt elaborate on this. Personally there are many bars i try to stay away from if i dont know the system of that particular bar. Even in my homecountries Denmark and thailand there are several places i wouldnt go.
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some14someAug. 07, 2010 - 01:38PM JST

Rare.... unknown...but would be nice to know if they were locals or ? Hey some14some where are you?

I am not AP i.e. not Associated with the Press, better we wait for Kyodo's in depth news :)
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kawaiitenshiAug. 07, 2010 - 01:40PM JST

lol at yakuza hangout.

PROBABLY was off his face, acting like a rock star and pissed a few people off. Even non semi famous rock stars can do this. Who would have thought!?
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my2senseAug. 07, 2010 - 01:48PM JST

fyi... the guy is 5'4 and 130 lbs giving most chinpira a good shot.... Osaka sucks for a pub crawl and yes there are loads of No Foreigner bars mixed in. I bar hopped during WC 2006 and every other bar, a guy came to the door and made you leave and then the eigo profanity starts. I give this scene a good chance. Japanese usually fight in numbers... like a pack of school girls in the Bronx-wild punches, choking and pulling hair and great at cheap shots. They tend to pull out their keitei and dial up their mates down the street. Other than that- it is still rare. I will go with chinpira and the above.
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my2senseAug. 07, 2010 - 01:49PM JST

I was jokin sum14sum....lol
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SargeAug. 07, 2010 - 03:00PM JST

"Whibley was attacked in a bar"

One more reason to stay out of bars.
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SargeAug. 07, 2010 - 03:03PM JST

norinrad21 - Har!
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xpompey8Aug. 07, 2010 - 05:40PM JST

Maybe they were mobbed by three fanatic fans? Sum 41 rocks! Get well Whibley!!
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kyushujoeAug. 07, 2010 - 06:51PM JST

"Generally, Japanese don't attack gaijins unless provoked." "If you go into the wrong type of bar, the Japanese will attack without provocation." "Japanese usually fight in numbers... like a pack of school girls."

What's this? Some kind of amateur anthropologists convention? Doen't it ever occur to you that Japanese people are individuals with their own personalities?
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my2senseAug. 07, 2010 - 06:59PM JST

no mate- its just you, and try not to incorporate 2 comments into one. TA...
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mikehuntezAug. 07, 2010 - 07:19PM JST

He sure got Sum41 didn't he? As for him acting like a rock star can do anything attitude, it's likely as I've seen this with a Scottish band. And as for the chance he was attacked by several Japanese guys this is likely too as it seems to be the modus operandi of the local guys as they are a bunch of whimps alone.
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T_rexmaxytimeAug. 07, 2010 - 07:20PM JST

According to a witness, EVER LAST's back, SOCIAL DISTRUCTION's Snake, HOUSE OF PAIN's Vocal and one other black guy ganged up on him and beat him. You can check out the witness's mixi diary here...

http://mixi.jp/viewdiary.pl?id=1555553430&ownerid=9636056
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T_rexmaxytimeAug. 07, 2010 - 07:23PM JST

over some chick lol
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kjkjkjAug. 07, 2010 - 07:24PM JST

If you go into the wrong type of bar, the Americans will attack without provocation. In fact, they'll provoke you then attack whether you react or just try to leave.

You could say this about any place in the world: substitute "the Japanese" for your local populace. Still sounds kind of foolish and ignorant when you do so though.
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kyushujoeAug. 07, 2010 - 07:41PM JST

@my2sense It's actually three comments, mate. Clearly separated by three sets of quotation marks. Do keep up. Ta.
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T_rexmaxytimeAug. 07, 2010 - 07:47PM JST

The source I gave above is not a trustworthy source. The other diary was all right winged nationalist stuff.... Sorry about that...
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jamal2609Aug. 07, 2010 - 11:21PM JST

@mikihouse:

Generally, Japanese don't attack gaijins unless provoked so there must be more than the reported story.

Are you basing this statement on some sort of fact, or is this just what you believe to be true? Please clarify.
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BTADTAug. 08, 2010 - 01:11AM JST

Yeah, Japan is safe!!!!!...right!!(?)! <----- best carry the crew with you and pronto things when shaking with a mix!!!!!
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NolivingAug. 08, 2010 - 04:13AM JST

You could say this about any place in the world: substitute "the Japanese" for your local populace. Still sounds kind of foolish and ignorant when you do so though.

Not really, unless your in a biker bar in the US pretty much all bars are a safe bet when you enter them.
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kjkjkjAug. 08, 2010 - 07:25AM JST

Not really, unless your in a biker bar in the US pretty much all bars are a safe bet when you enter them.

So, kind of like bars in Japan?
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T_rexmaxytimeAug. 08, 2010 - 12:33PM JST

He was beaten up by another fellow of SummerSonic music festival, so they say...
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proudnipponAug. 08, 2010 - 07:19PM JST

As for him acting like a rock star can do anything attitude, it's likely as I've seen this with a Scottish band

wtf are you babbling about now?
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mokgohanAug. 08, 2010 - 08:27PM JST

I met this guy, along with Avril, 5 or 6 years ago in a bar on New Years Eve in Toronto. A friend of mine had to tell me who they were after we talked for a bit at the bar waiting for drinks. Avril is tiny and he's almost as short- they were like munchkins, and I'm not even that big myself but I towered over them. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but some posters above are saying fellow rockers laid into him which is more understandable than locals. He must've done something pretty crappy as I could never see myself throwing down with someone so small- he and Avril were just way too cute. Not a fan though.
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XXXXXAug. 09, 2010 - 07:33PM JST

Japanese people are individuals with their own personalities?

sorry but that's hardly noticeable at first :(