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Girl, 5, found naked, unconscious on Chiba street; confirmed dead at hospital

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  • tokyofun1 at 12:00 AM JST - 23rd September

    hmmmm I am guessing it was the mother and her bf....as the bf told the mother I will leave you...or the mother still wanted to relive her "youth"...and party it up.....as with almost all of the other murders where children are involved....I am sure it was the mother or someone in the family or a jelous other mother who was upset that the other girl could dance better than her daughter blablablalbal I DO feel sorry for children here as it seems there is no PROTECTION for them...

  • cleo at 12:26 AM JST - 23rd September

    She had to take the girl to her workplace when she worked nights.

    The mother works as a nurse in a hospital run by her own mother (the little girl's grandmother), so that rather than she had to take her to work, she was able to take her and have the support of grandma, who was often seen by neighbours in the company of the little girl.

  • beavis at 01:11 AM JST - 23rd September

    CavemanLawyer

    The second best thing we can do is to punish the predators to the highest level.

    Well that attitude worked for murder. In western societies, its been completely eliminated. Yeahright!

     I enjoy your opinions and for the most part find them to be informative.  Please don't misunderstand my position. 
    

    The term "predator" is what I know as the legal jargon when referring to a pedophile who actively seeks out minors to abuse. By saying "punished to the highest level" I am not suggesting these criminals be executed, just that their crimes be acknowledged as extremely serious and that their punishment be equal to their crime. I'm sure you are aware of the system in the U.S. where sex offenders are monitored, and their location is given out to neighborhood residents as a notice of their proximity. I'd be curious to hear your opinion on this treatment.

  • bushlover at 03:45 AM JST - 23rd September

    Has anyone yet asked if this is a copycat of the Fukuoka incident? Always suspect the parents in Japan. It seems a given.

  • beavis at 06:01 AM JST - 23rd September

    So many extremes here. Everything from "hang the mother in the public square" to "Japan is still safe".

  • translator300 at 09:44 AM JST - 23rd September

    Greencardfan and Cleo Thank you.

    This morning's news is confusing

    The girl was seen heading back to the hospital at 10:40 and at the hospital at about noon, which is the approximate time at which she was meant to have been killed.

    The police thought murder was not premeditated, the body was left in a conspicuous place either so that it would be found quickly (possibly in the hope of ressucitation) or just to get away from the body quickly. The cause of death was probably suffocation with a hand or towel over mouth.

  • Molenir at 03:40 PM JST - 23rd September

    The whole situation is sad. I feel for the mother who lost her daughter like this. And regarding what beavis said. I totally agree. The thing about harsh punishments for crimes of this nature. (And by harsh I mean minimum 20 years in jail, or death) After someone spends 30 years in jail, they tend not to be violent offenders again. And if someone is executed for murder, ya know they never kill anyone else either.

  • Blue_Tiger at 07:13 PM JST - 23rd September

    This is unbelievable. How was this little girl allowed to walk around town by herself? What is further frightening is the number of people who saw her before she was killed, and did nothing tot ake her back to the hospital.

  • WilliB at 10:46 PM JST - 23rd September

    Blue Tiger:

    She wasn´t allowed to "walk around town". She was allowed to walk a few hundred meters to a friends house, which in Japan is still not unusual. Alas, times are changing.

  • Himajin at 08:24 AM JST - 24th September

    She was not walking around town but between her friend's house and the hospital. It seems that she came right back because she was seen twice in the hospital in two different places. Which means she disappeared from the hospital...

    The forensic specialists on TV all but said 'family' straight out this morning (someone very close to her, someone she knows well) because now there is only a 30-minute window to account for, as she was seen in the hospital, and she had no marks on her at all, ie., she didn't try to pull her arm away from someone taking her somewhere.

    They said it's not a pervert, a pervert takes their time, they wouldn't be satisfied with a few minutes, which is all it would be with 30 minutes to take her somewhere, undress her, kill her and leave her by the road and hide her clothes.They quite clearly said it was staged.

  • translator300 at 01:30 PM JST - 24th September

    Himajin

    According to http://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye3955066.html http://www.nikkansports.com/general/news/p-gn-tp0-20080924-411959.html There was slight bruising on her wrist from having been dragged forceably by her hand shortly before her death.

    There are finger-prints on the supermarket bags.

  • Himajin at 07:41 PM JST - 24th September

    Really? They said on the news this morning that there were no marks on her at all.

  • Blue_Tiger at 07:59 AM JST - 26th September

    "A few hundred meters," WilliB? If one hundred meters is equal to the length of a football pitch or an American Football Field, and she was allowed to walk "a few hundred" meters, isn't that a bit far for a 5-year-old girl? Not sure about you, WilliB or Himajin, but when I was 5 years old, I was allowed to go outside and stay in the yard around our house....and that was it. What is "not unusual" in Japan is irrelevent. The fact of the matter is, this little girl was traipsing around without any kind of supervision, allowed to walk several football-pitch-lengths away from her family and the Grandparents' hospital, and ended up being killed. I say "Bad supervision" on the part of the mother. Who in their right mind lets a five-year-old child outside of their sight unsupervised, let alone allows them to walk such a distance by themselves?

  • Himajin at 10:27 AM JST - 26th September

    I was simply addressing the 'walking around town' aspect of your comment, it implies that she was wandering all over. By all accounts the last place she was seen alive was in the hospital, so what does that say? Her friend was not home so she returned to the hospital.

    I don't know where you're from, Blue Tiger, but in my opinion Americans go overboard in the other direction...they seem to think there is a kidnapper behind every tree, when statistics clearly show that most missing children in the US are taken by their parents. Kids don't even walk to school anymore.

    Too bad there can't be a happy medium...

  • Blue_Tiger at 11:16 PM JST - 27th September

    Yet, Himajin, where was she found? Neasrly a quarter mile form the hospital, no? So, what your also saying is that we should allow five-year-olds the freedom to walk or go wherever they wish, unaccompanied by a parent? Yes, I am aware of who kidnaps children in the States, but that has no bearing here in Japan. The fact of the matter is, a five-year-old girl was allowed to leave alone to walk around her neighborhood unaccompanied by an adult, and the result was her death, and I, persoanlly, place part of the blame on the mother: she should have been more responsible....

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