Man gets death penalty for killing woman, her granddaughters

Tuesday 17th March, 06:15 AM JST

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IchyaWarFare at 08:59 AM JST - 17th March

So, did they say why he did it? Did not see the story from before. Anyone got a link to it?
bobbafett at 09:19 AM JST - 17th March

joseba,

The parents said that their wish is for the man to die. They got their wish. The father said that he can now report to his deceased daughters that the correct verdict was handed down. I think that the parents will sleep better knowing that this guy paid the ultimate price for his crimes. If he did not die then the hate the parents must feel would last as long as he lived and they would feel justice was never handed down. At least when he finally swings, the parents can have closure.
joseba at 10:06 AM JST - 17th March

So, bobbafett, you really think that the parents are right asking for death petalty? I just think they want revenge (and it's something natural in these cases), but it's the judicial system the one that should hand down the veredict, not the parents.

Either way, what its wrong with this penalty is not the judicial system that applies it, it's the society that prefers punishment over understanding or empathy.

Maybe, it's because I am european but I don't like to live in a country (or a world) where I implicitly give permission to kill people to the state. Even more when, from time to time, appears new evidences that can prove the innocence of a death man.

PS: And I don't believe the parents can sleep better, or, at least, not better than if the sentence had been 20 years in jail. There is a little, very little, drop of guilt that installs itself in the unconscious when you desire the death of other human being, and it gets bigger over time.
biglittleman at 10:42 AM JST - 17th March

IchyaWarFare,

If I remember correctly, he owed her some money. The woman's sister was married to him but was deceased. She had been giving him money and started to ask him to pay it back. He was embarrassed about the loans. His plan was to only kill the woman. The grandchildren was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Gaijinocchio at 11:36 AM JST - 17th March

Anyone who single-handedly murders not one, but two helpless children deserves to be hung, drawn, and quartered.
LFRAgain at 12:49 PM JST - 17th March

Man, I remember this story when it broke, too. I still get angry thinking about it.

I've heard both sides of the argument, both pro and con, regarding the death penalty, and as much as I'd like to say that empathy and understanding are what's needed in cases as senseless and brutal as this one, this bastard is in desperate need of being erased from the same plane of existence that the rest of us live in. He's a cancer, and for the health of the overall body, that cancer needs to be excised.

All things being equal, the oft-quoted rationale that punishing murder with murder is a contradiction makes sense. But all things are in fact and reality not equal. For society to function and succeed, we each accept both explicit and implicit responsibilities in obeying those laws that further the continued success and well-being of the civilization as a whole.

Calculated murder out of petty human greed and selfishness? That’s a deal-breaker. Just as imprisoning someone illegally gives society the legal right to take away one’s freedom, so too does murdering someone as this man did rob one of the right to live. Yes, there are indeed limitations to ones freedom when one chooses to so blatantly and ruthlessly break the very rules that provide for the safe exercise of said freedom.
Patrick Smash at 03:16 PM JST - 17th March

I still think a cold damp cell, and 15 hours a day of hard labour 7 days a week, with all monies paid to the family of the victim(s) is more in order. It beats letting someone sit about for 3-20 years and then giving them a quick finish. The State should not be allowed to decide who dies, but should be able to make sure criminals are truly sorry and that no one at all could look forward to the sentence on offer.
dennis0bauer at 03:30 PM JST - 17th March

I am against the dead penalty if the punishment fits the crime, but not to a cell with TV and airconditioning, a rope is cheaper than a lifetime in jail payed by the state (that means paid by us)
Noliving at 04:56 PM JST - 17th March

Joseba, you can hand down a death penalty and still have empathy and understanding for the criminal. I wouldn't consider these murders to be mistakes in this case. The only time the judicial system wouldn't recognize people make mistakes is if they handed down death penalties and life sentences for the majority of crimes including.

>So, bobbafett, you really think that the parents are right asking for death petalty? I just think they want revenge (and it's something natural in these cases), but it's the judicial system the one that should hand down the veredict, not the parents.

Well its a goodthing it was the judicial system that handed down the verdict not the parents, nor did they hand down the verdict because of the parents wishes.

>PS: And I don't believe the parents can sleep better, or, at least, not better than if the sentence had been 20 years in jail. There is a little, very little, drop of guilt that installs itself in the unconscious when you desire the death of other human being, and it gets bigger over time.

I do, I have seen it all the time.
seesaw at 05:23 PM JST - 17th March

All those people are related to each other as a family. It's unbelievable that one could kill the other, and the other could wish him death...Yet, I still hear people say J family is close-knit family. Whatever has happened to family love...?
BBLeo at 06:11 PM JST - 17th March

Another one to hang, reading the whole story I agree with sentence imposed on him despite his age. I think judges are starting to do their work before jurors come into effect in May
bobbafett at 10:37 PM JST - 17th March

joseba,

Noliving summed up my sentiments perfectly.
yawmin at 01:53 AM JST - 18th March

joseba, this guy deserves death. He killed innocent children, and if thats not enough, why should tax payers pay for his rehabilitation or life imprisonment, so he can die a ripe old age behind bars? If anything he will be "suffering" being confined. Also, in my opinon killing 1 person in cold blood is enough to warrant death. This isnt about revenge or justice, this is about getting rid of this waste of sperm and egg, to ensure that he will not affect anyone negatively again.
yawmin at 01:55 AM JST - 18th March

also Joseba, there is no mistake, he admitted the crime and confessed to the location of the bodies. . .
potchari at 12:26 AM JST - 20th March

Joseba Have you ever lost someone to a violent crime? Has the life of a loved one ever been taken by another?? Have you ever experience the trauma these people (the parents) are going through? Until you have (and I pray that you never do) I don't think you are in a position to comment.