Then how would you know anything about it DXXJP? Or does suspicion and assumption count as credible evidence? Just another poster with a conspiracy to spin. That's why I love coming here to read comment. They provide a good laugh.
I think DXXJP gives the western intelligence services too much credit. Doubtful they knew if the ISI were planning this. And can't imagine how it helps the US cause to kill off a Japanese aid worker. So I doubt this connection.
It's nice to see someone besides the CIA getting blamed for things like this. It show immagination. Who ever started this rumour should be hired as a Hollywood script writer, they are in dire need of qualified help!!
Are the Japanese such skilled farmers that they are...are...DANGEROUS?
What does Pakistan have to gain with an unstable Afganistan?
They're neighboring nations.
I would think it would be better for the regional community to be stable so to lure international investments.
Why would Pakistan want an unstable Afghanistan? Maybe, if the ISI has ties to the Taliban, it is so that they Taliban can return to Afghanistan (as it is doing anyway) more quickly.
Maybe Pakistan has eyes on certain areas of Afghanistan and thinks if Afghanistan is unstable enough a foreign power will invade it and ... wait. That's been done. And Pakistan can grab the land they want.
Being neighbors doesn't necessarily lead them to being Friendly neighbors (See Indian-Pakistan wars since, well, forever.)
broscht
I don't think your theory holds water since as long as Afghanistan remains unstable, it means the longer the US peacekeeping coalition will be around, making it difficult for Pakistan to move in.
As for Pakistan wanting the US for money, that also raises question.
Which do you think will drop money the military or foreign investment?
If there is a stable political basis with people willing to work "dirt" cheap then alot foreign companies are willing to invest.
Look at China, look at Vietnam but at the moment wages in China are skyrocketing so alot of companies are looking for alternatives.
The middle east is an ideal geological industrial region since it is midways between Europe and Asia making it an ideal hub for both regions.
Good points. I'm just playing devil's advocate here for a second. As for dropping money, Haliburton seems to think the military drops the most money. The Middle East might be geographically ideal but places like China at least have a group work ethic that benefits companies. I don't know about the Middle East's group work ethic. But, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds if and or when the region becomes stable.
Pakistan has been and continues to be a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism
to the extent that it was the ISI which helped the Taliban establish
themselves as the ruling power in Afghanistan. After 911 when the Taliban refused to habd over Bin Ladin and we started air bombing Afghanistan it
was pretty clear that Pakistan was just as viable a target. To avoid this
Musharaff quickly sided with the US and coalition forces. But the fundamental problem still exists in that there are too many Taliban suppporters within Pakistan.
Just remember Gents, Taliban has lots of money and can pay off Pakistani intelligence Agents (plus isn't Pakistani Intelligence the same as NO Intelligence).
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piroz121 at 08:39 AM JST - 1st September
Now add to all of Afghanistan's problems another one - Pakistan’s intelligence services .
OssanULTRA at 08:48 AM JST - 1st September
Actually, Pakistani Intelligence (ISI) has been something of a problem since 911.
DXXJP at 08:55 AM JST - 1st September
Funny that if it was a US CIA,FBI,NSA we wouldn't even know the guy died. But hey there not terrorist are they.
bushlover at 09:16 AM JST - 1st September
Then how would you know anything about it DXXJP? Or does suspicion and assumption count as credible evidence? Just another poster with a conspiracy to spin. That's why I love coming here to read comment. They provide a good laugh.
tkoind2 at 10:16 AM JST - 1st September
I think DXXJP gives the western intelligence services too much credit. Doubtful they knew if the ISI were planning this. And can't imagine how it helps the US cause to kill off a Japanese aid worker. So I doubt this connection.
fatloser at 11:59 AM JST - 1st September
It's nice to see someone besides the CIA getting blamed for things like this. It show immagination. Who ever started this rumour should be hired as a Hollywood script writer, they are in dire need of qualified help!! Are the Japanese such skilled farmers that they are...are...DANGEROUS?
some14some at 02:42 PM JST - 1st September
It is no secret that Pakistan's ISI has strong connections with Taliban and other terrorists organizations operting in the region.
LIBERTAS at 03:22 PM JST - 1st September
"No solid evidence."
Triring at 06:42 PM JST - 1st September
What does Pakistan have to gain with an unstable Afganistan? They're neighboring nations. I would think it would be better for the regional community to be stable so to lure international investments.
DXXJP at 07:58 PM JST - 1st September
You dont see it, Um isnt the US asking Japan to continue the refueling mission.
borscht at 08:37 PM JST - 1st September
Triring,
Good question.
Why would Pakistan want an unstable Afghanistan? Maybe, if the ISI has ties to the Taliban, it is so that they Taliban can return to Afghanistan (as it is doing anyway) more quickly.
Maybe Pakistan has eyes on certain areas of Afghanistan and thinks if Afghanistan is unstable enough a foreign power will invade it and ... wait. That's been done. And Pakistan can grab the land they want.
Being neighbors doesn't necessarily lead them to being Friendly neighbors (See Indian-Pakistan wars since, well, forever.)
Triring at 08:53 PM JST - 1st September
broscht I don't think your theory holds water since as long as Afghanistan remains unstable, it means the longer the US peacekeeping coalition will be around, making it difficult for Pakistan to move in. As for Pakistan wanting the US for money, that also raises question. Which do you think will drop money the military or foreign investment? If there is a stable political basis with people willing to work "dirt" cheap then alot foreign companies are willing to invest. Look at China, look at Vietnam but at the moment wages in China are skyrocketing so alot of companies are looking for alternatives. The middle east is an ideal geological industrial region since it is midways between Europe and Asia making it an ideal hub for both regions.
borscht at 11:14 PM JST - 1st September
Triring,
Good points. I'm just playing devil's advocate here for a second. As for dropping money, Haliburton seems to think the military drops the most money. The Middle East might be geographically ideal but places like China at least have a group work ethic that benefits companies. I don't know about the Middle East's group work ethic. But, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds if and or when the region becomes stable.
OssanULTRA at 06:11 AM JST - 2nd September
Pakistan has been and continues to be a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism to the extent that it was the ISI which helped the Taliban establish themselves as the ruling power in Afghanistan. After 911 when the Taliban refused to habd over Bin Ladin and we started air bombing Afghanistan it was pretty clear that Pakistan was just as viable a target. To avoid this Musharaff quickly sided with the US and coalition forces. But the fundamental problem still exists in that there are too many Taliban suppporters within Pakistan.
OgieDoggie at 12:19 AM JST - 3rd September
Just remember Gents, Taliban has lots of money and can pay off Pakistani intelligence Agents (plus isn't Pakistani Intelligence the same as NO Intelligence).
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