Stabbing suspect should have killed himself, Osaka governor says

OSAKA —

Osaka Gov Ichiro Matsui said Monday that the suspect in the fatal stabbing of two people in Osaka’s Higashi-Shinsaibashi area should have killed himself if he really wanted to die.

The suspect, 36-year-old Kyozo Isohi, was arrested at the scene on Sunday afternoon after he fatally stabbed a 42-year-old man from Tokyo and a 66-year-old local woman. He told police that he chose his victims at random and he wanted to kill anyone so he would be sentenced to death.

Matsui told a news conference that if Isohi really wanted to die, there were many ways he could have done it away from the spotlight, TBS reported. “Why did he have to take other people’s lives?”

Police said that Isohi was released from a prison in Niigata Prefecture two weeks ago. He had been serving time for assault and possession of stimulants. He was quoted as telling police that he was frustrated at having no home and no job prospects, and that he didn’t want to live anymore, TBS reported.

Japan Today

  • 6

    the-grouch

    I'm speechless.....

  • 12

    otaku2012

    I agree with Governor Ichiro Matsui. This slime ball should have killed himself. He had no reason to take the life of an innocent civilian. His life sucking does not mean he has to take it out on others. Makes me sick...

  • 4

    KariHaruka

    While I agree with him about if this person really wanted to die why did he have to take the lives of others. Thats just selfish. But should the governor really be coming out with these views in public?

    I say punish this person by putting him on Ishihara's future rocks. Put them to good use and punish him in a way that he doesn't want.

  • -7

    Cricky

    Vengeful leadership, seperation from law and governance that's mature!

  • 2

    Charles M Burns

    If he wanted to die he should have killed himself. Coward

  • 11

    Bogi

    Everyone has their own views, but a politician should not say something like that. No class.

  • 3

    Serrano

    I hope this doesn't become a new reason for more murders - "I want to die."

  • -5

    johninnaha

    This guy really is a piece of work.

    Osaka, wake up!

  • 0

    Jimizo

    Bogi - Spot on. Elected officials shouldn't be making comments like this. Perhaps he's fed up with being relatively anonymous. I'm sure Hashimoto can up the ante.

  • 5

    Thunderbird2

    What an evil bugger.... he wanted to die so he killed two others to make it happen? He should never have been released from prison in the first place.

    The Governor was right, he should have topped himself. Now there are two families grieving because this tosser never had the balls to hang himself or open a vein. Creatures like this make me sick...

    Seriously, I am so angry about this... as if people don't have enough to be afraid of now they have excreta like this running about killing people to satisfy some twisted death wish.

  • 0

    Seawolf

    Wow, looks like even the yaks are in a recession and don't have any job-openings for low-level scum, otherwise he should have been able to get some "job" while serving time, or not?

  • -5

    Gurukun

    ...and there's people that do not support the death penalty? What a shame.

    Now we have this guy that is jobless and homeless....he goes out and kills two innocent people so he can be put in prison again (a shelter), and given three hot meals a day (for free).

    ....and all at the expense of the tax payer.

  • 4

    zichi

    Executions will neverslovenia the problems of provety, unemployment, homelessness, addictions, mental health problems, and it's been proven over and over again that capital punishement does nothing to stop people from violent crimes like murder.

  • 0

    USB

    This guy really is a piece of work. Osaka, wake up

    I think you are getting him mixed up with the other nut, Mayor Hashimoto. This guy is the Governor. But he is one of Hashimoto's cronies.

  • 0

    nandakandamanda

    He should be offered a job working with the stricken reactors in Fukushima.

    Actually the Governor's advice harks back to an age when people not actively helping society were encouraged to remove themselves from among the living. In other words, he is saying that the morally correct thing to do would have been to kill himself.

  • 6

    smithinjapan

    As much as it might be animal instinct to agree with the governor, the remark is VERY unfitting of a so-called leader.

  • -4

    Gurukun

    zichi-actually capital punishment is what caused this nutcase to kill innocent people in the first place. He couldn't kill himself, so he thought that if he killed innocent people, he would get the death penalty. And because of that, the Japanese people will need to support this guy for many years. How fair is that to the tax payer? How fair is that for the families of the dead? The only person that came out shinning, is this Piece of S#$$%#$T!!!

  • 0

    Thunderbird2

    He should be offered a job working with the stricken reactors in Fukushima.

    Yes! Without a protective suit!

  • 4

    Thomas Anderson

    How about sending condolences to the victims and trying to stop these things from occurring in the first place, governor.

  • 4

    poppler

    This is another reason why every country should have suicide clinics. People should be able to go a clinic and get put to sleep peacefully instead of jumping in front of a train or doing something like this idiot did.

  • 1

    calm down

    Prevent these things from happening ??Any able bodied nut case adult could do this at anytime,we are at the mercy of fate .

  • -1

    oikawa

    This is another reason why every country should have suicide clinics. People should be able to go a clinic and get put to sleep peacefully instead of jumping in front of a train or doing something like this idiot did.

    Mmm, or maybe have slightly better mental health treatment and facilities so people don't get to that stage in the first place.. Anyway you can't let a mentally ill person decide for themselves if they want to die or not like you can a mentally competent person with physical problems.

  • -3

    Elbuda Mexicano

    Fate?? Karma?? Call it what you will, but it is very, very wrong for such a evil, selfish bastard to not have the courage to suicide in a quiet manner, so I agree with Mr.Hashimoto or what ever this Osaka governors name is, that he should have just done the right thing and say walk into the sea, jump with a heavy stone wrapped around his neck into that Yodobashi river etc..but not killing off other innocent people, minding their own business. RIP poor innocent folk and I do hope and pray that this scum Kyozo Isoshi will one day burn in hell for all of eternity!!!!

  • 3

    serendipitous

    Hashimoto used to be Governor of Osaka but is now Mayor of Osaka.

  • 1

    waltery

    Kyozo Isohi has made a strong statement about his lack of prospects at the expense of other peoples lives. I agree this is not posative in any way other than to make his point stronger. If he was just another mark on the tracks and inconienced commuters then it would pass with out notice. As Vangove cut his ear off, the man in Greece along with Tibetans self emulate there public statements attract attention. Do we ignore and pass them off as pure nutcases, or or take notice and consider thier frustration and how to act? Not so long ago the discussion here was on suicide and the reasons for doing so but I feel this same discussion is an annual event. Just a thought.

  • 7

    Ali Khan

    this is quite strange that such a statement comes from a high politician, why such events happening? the Governor should focus on the reasons rather then the individual.

  • 3

    vinnyfav

    Anybody who was outraged at the news certainly would have had these thoughts. I'm sure most, if not all, of the people who read the previous news article felt that the man could have done something else, anything else than kill two people if he wanted to die.

    Saying such things in a fit of anger is probably an unwise thing for a politician to say. He was probably just giving air to his own grief at such an exceptional case of tragedy, but he certainly should have known better than to do it in his official capacity as the Governor.

    My opinion resonates with his message, at any rate. Condolences to the families involved, and let's hope the Governor doesn't drop any more of such verbal bombs in the future.

  • 2

    marcelito

    Perphaps not the most diplomatic way for an elected official to express his opinion publicly but hey..privately - he is absolutely right... That ass took the lives of two innocent people - what a piece of s@$!!...

  • 2

    tmarie

    So I guess AKB48 didn't get their message that suicide is wrong to Matsui?

    While I can understand his thinking on the matter, is this really the correct thing to be stating to the public in a country that has such a high rate of suicides that they supposedly want to lower?

  • 4

    tmarie

    I think you are getting him mixed up with the other nut, Mayor Hashimoto. This guy is the Governor. But he is one of Hashimoto's cronies.

    He is Hashimoto's puppet. Make no mistake about it. They agree that Hashimoto would go for mayor, Matsui would go for governor and they'd work together to push in "reforms".

  • 4

    shawnth

    There is something seriously wrong with the politicians in Osaka. First Hashimoto w/ his dumb tattoo thing and now this guy. Although the offender in question here deserves whatever he has coming to him I would never have come up with the sick thought that he should've just committed suicide. Also given Japan has a high suicide rate, makes comments like this from government officials completely inappropriate. It sends the wrong message.. no this guy shouldn't have committed suicide instead of killing random people. He should've seeked professional help instead.

  • 1

    Thomas Anderson

    Prevent these things from happening ??Any able bodied nut case adult could do this at anytime,we are at the mercy of fate .

    Society creates nutcases. And why was he released from prison without being properly treated and without knowing that he was no longer a threat to society.

  • 2

    smithinjapan

    shawnth: "no this guy shouldn't have committed suicide instead of killing random people. He should've seeked professional help instead."

    One of the best comments on the thread, and one of the most level-headed, so kudos (save that the past tense of 'seek' is 'sought' -- sorry... couldn't let it go). I also agree that there is something seriously wrong with the politicians in Osaka -- seems they're vying with Ishihara in Tokyo for most politically incorrect and morally wrong comments you can make.

  • 0

    alimel1969

    MeanRingo, Gurukun is right. This jerk lacked the courage to take his own life, with his own hands. He chose to commit a crime evil enough to warrent a death sentance. Suicide by cop, if you will. If there was no death sentance then he would have had to find another way to end his life. And probably not include killing innocent people.

    Matsui should not have publically commented as he did. He is a in a position of power and should be more proactive rather than reactive. His comments only encourages anger and does nothing to help in finding a solution to avoid such actions in the future.

  • -4

    Thunderbird2

    Do Japanese police officers actually patrol, or just sit in their koban all day?

    I ask because if the plod were out there, on the streets and patrolling, would this event have been more or less likely to have happened? How about CCTV?
    Then again this bastard wanted to die, so maybe it may have even encouraged him more.

    How can you stop crimes like this? Knife crime is bad enough without an extra layer like this on top.

  • 0

    ubikwit

    Though my sympathies are with the victims and their families, and i don't in any way condone the actions of this murderer,

    Matsui has shown that he is simply a tool of some behind the scenes establishment, not focused on serving the public interest. He is totally out of touch with the public, and not in the least empathizing with the plight of all the struggling people in Osaka, which is the most economically depressed place in the country, mainly because of the organized crime factor keeping businesses out. Maybe because that same factor helped get him elected, and he is trying to help save the facade, next best thing to saving face.

    Matsui's statement can be interpreted as something along the lines of:

    If you aren't a part of the political in-group or at least some politically influential group, then just kill yourself, because we're not going to give you a job, loser!!!

    That is the type of individual Osaka has as governor...

  • 3

    Fadamor

    Executions will neverslovenia the problems of provety,

    Auto-incorrection and a typo in the same clause!

    If you don't want to live anymore, down a bottle-full of sleeping tablets and curl up in a culvert somewhere where nobody will find you anytime soon. No pain, no fuss. Don't go killing other people who were having no problem living their lives! You're too scared to slice your wrists, but not too scared to plunge a blade into other people MULTIPLE times?!? I call "B.S."

  • 1

    sfjp330

    It's always better that politicians do not seek to make mileage out of criminal case and proceedings no matter what side of the political fence people are on. An intrusion at an inappropriate stage of legal proceedings can have a detrimental effect. He should just stay out and let the police handle the case.

    .

  • 0

    Tom Webb

    Take all those criminals in prison and make them clean-up the nuclear tainted trash. Death will come sooner than later for these folks. No need to take law abiding folks with them. The people will appreciate them for their work.

  • -2

    Jonathan Prin

    This is japanese speech. Suicide is honorable. Indeed it is rather than killing others. But isn't it doctors and judges to decide rather than throwing to the crowd a burning society issue he should be accountable for?

  • 6

    Elbuda Mexicano

    Sure Japanese police do patrol, it is part of their job, but Japan is not Cuba, Japan is not North Korea, nor is it Occupied Tibet with thousands and thousands of Chinese army, police on every corner, Japan is a free country, just like back in the USA, Australia, the UK etc..and in a free country, sooner or later some folk fall through the so called cracks of society, like this fool Kyozo?? So I do not think it is a fair comment to say that all Japanese police are just fat old plods sitting in their kobans night and day, while all mayhem is breaking loose, maybe the older guys who are not in good shape sit around in kobans but they younger cops do ride around on their bicycles patrolling and the more elite in their police cars. Sh!t will happen, anywhere and at anytime, this is just part of life and death.

  • 2

    MeanRingo

    Alimel and Gurukun, my point is that he did this to get the death penalty because he was frustrated at his perceived lake of future prospects. I don't know his full story, but I read that he was in prison for drugs. He probably had a whole slew of other problems to boot. Instead of painting people like this as trouble for life (even after paying their debt to society) how about making prisons a place to really rehabilitate people and help solve some of their bigger problems (which is not a prominent idea in the Japanese penal system) so that when they get released they have some hope. I am not defending this guy, or the death penalty (which I find detestable), but I can feel empathy for people who feel that they have no future.

  • 1

    tmarie

    **First Hashimoto w/ his dumb tattoo thing and now this guy. **

    If only the tattoo thing was the first dumb thing he's done...

    I "love" all the discussion this is causing on TV. "Is Japan not safe anymore??" How could this have happened? Duh! How about a little support for those just released from jail? How about looking at the problem of unemployment?

  • -1

    enkeldika

    Maybe Hashimoto and this psycho should hang out together to Chuo Line or Aokigahara Jukai. That will suit them best!

  • 0

    Manuel D. Valencia III

    Typical in a high suicide country like Japan for someone to say such a thing as the Governor did.

  • 0

    alimel1969

    MeanRingo, I agree with you that rehabilitation is needed in prison. Prisoners should also be released to a halfway house where they receive counseling and work programs to adjust back into society. I also believe in the death penalty as long as certain criterias are met and there is absolutely no doubt as to who commited the crime.

    This guys claims of wanting to be sentenced to death bothers me though. He is either as desperate as he claims, and should receive help, or is brilliant and using this excuse as to actually avoid the death penalty. The claim alone is enought to consider that he is not of sound mind and therefore not fully responsible for his actions. I am not familiar enough with the Japanese courts to say if this would work in his favor.

    Anyway, this is not exactly what I believe but it is something that keeps crossing my mind.

  • 1

    Mirai Hayashi

    Matsui told a news conference that if Isohi really wanted to die, there were many ways he could have done it away from the spotlight, TBS reported. “Why did he have to take other people’s lives?”

    He's just saying what we all feel when suicidal people take other people's lives before taking their own....I completely agree...where's the controversy?

  • -1

    my2sense

    Bogo hit it, yep.

  • 1

    Alphaape

    A bit over the top for the governor, but it is true. The guy was too much of a coward to do it himself. I see him like those people who devise ways of killing themselves by using gas or some other method that has the potential to harm others because they feel alone and don't want to die alone but want to take someone else with them. That to me is very selfish.

  • -1

    Dennis Bauer

    what a smart thing to say, but i think the extreme right will applaud him

  • -5

    just-a-bigguy

    Japan is a very mean and harsh society that people hates each other! I was stunned that the above unappropiate remarks was lashed out of the mouth from Osaka mayor! Japan is really sick now!

  • -1

    Riffraff

    and it's been proven over and over again that capital punishement does nothing to stop people from violent crimes like murder.

    ...........but it sure prevents them from doing it twice............

  • 2

    Realistic

    Disagree with the guy's doing to two inocent people.

    Partially agree with the Mayor, but he should not ignore the reason (being unemployment) of that nut! With his above statements he could have added concerns/ action plan for the unemployed people.

  • -3

    nisegaijin

    A respect an honest opinion coming from a politition, especially if this view is a correct one! bravo! say it how it is, brah!

  • -1

    Thomas Anderson

    Its strange that people say he should not say such things when so many agree. Aren't politicians supposed to represent the people? But you want him to lie, and you wonder why politicians lie??

    The job of the government is to govern, not give their opinions.

  • 0

    Thomas Anderson

    He may be a murdering criminal, but if a governor says that he SHOULD have killed himself if he really wanted to die, then he is basically NOT protecting the life of a citizen as he should as a governor. Saying SHOULD implies that he should have committed suicide before the murder occurred. Which means that he is ordering to kill a fellow citizen by making him kill himself. Wouldn't that actually be against the law?

  • 0

    Thomas Anderson

    I find the message in Japan to be contradictory:

    "Don't kill yourself! Killing yourself is BAD!"

    "I can't kill myself! I think I will kill people instead to receive the death penalty!"

    "Kill yourself!"

  • -3

    codomo

    how about creates a new law that gives comfort death after the defendant could prove in court that he/she really has a potential to kill someone for his death punishment.

  • 0

    Wakarimasen

    None of this is nice.

  • -3

    Maitake

    Typical shallow thinking coming from the small mind of a highly conditioned Japanese Politician.

  • -2

    Maitake

    Typical shallow thinking coming from the small mind of a highly conditioned Japanese politician.

  • 0

    fds

    if he had killed himself like he planned, two innocent people would still be alive today. can't say i disagree with the governor on this.

  • -1

    sveinnyves

    No home and no job, the society was not welcoming to ex prisoners when they are given the second chance. When ppl r hungry, lonely, angry, ppl tend to do many stupid/crazy things. We r all human, we need to offer help to those in need, give a ppl a nudge to the right direction sometimes. When we become to absorbed with ourselves and with only our selfish needs to satisfy, we create a dangerous society ourselves and desperate ppl become crazy.

  • 0

    edwardstark

    An honest politician, echoing the voice of so many people? Throw him out ASAP! Politicians are not supposed to be honest!

  • 0

    tmarie

    **Partially agree with the Mayor, ** The mayor has said nothing. Read the article and see who this is addressing.

  • -1

    edwardstark

    he chose his victims at random and he wanted to kill anyone so he would be sentenced to death.

    Another way the death penalty has managed to kill innocent people! You have heard of suicide by cop. Now its suicide by judge!

  • -2

    Kabukilover

    Maybe Hashimoto should kill himself. He might serve as role model for rightist idiots like himself.

    Seriously, I feel that an elected leader should be above making irrational statements like this. It not only lacks class but might influence nice mentally disturbed to commit suicide. It might also inspire psychos to commit murders.

    In another post I speculated that capital punishment might have inspired Isohi to commit the murders. I was right. If there were no capital punishment these murders would not have happened.

    One thing is certain; there are lots of Isohi types out there who are ready to explode. Simply dumping a guy like Isohi on the street and forgetting about him is absolutely wrong. There have to be social safety nets for ex-cons that work. Society is safer that way.

    If I were the governor that's what I would have said.

  • 3

    zichi

    Some people seem to be confusing the mayor of Osaka with the governor of Osaka?

  • 0

    imap2223

    Wait! Wait! Wait! Let’s spread responsibility around to all those who are truly responsible. We can call this guy a dirt bag (which he truly and undoubtedly is) and say that he should have killed himself, but that is all that we are going to get out of it. Empty, angry meaningless words.

    Osaka Gov Ichiro Matsui is the one who ALSO makes me sick in this situation. This is the J-Gov's and Matsui's fault as well. I hate when people like this make such self-serving comments that are just made to further their own careers, whilst ignoring that they do have some responsibility for the issue. I never heard one word about how the judicial system failed the public. The only thing I hear is, “This guy is a dirt bag who should have killed himself.” Wake up people. That is shallow and doesn’t address how and why this happened and will have no impact on the future at all.

    Yes, this crazy guy's actions were horrific, and I am in no way, shape or form giving this guy any excuse at all. But rehabilitation is always what the government is stating their goal is, but that is not practiced at all. Squashing the inmate into doing right is what their rehabilitation system is all about.

    Why would you just let these guys out without at least putting them into mandatory halfway houses for six months to a year, where they have curfews, are monitored, aren't allowed to drink, are forced to do counseling services in their free time and are given access to job information, before fully releasing them to us? Releasing a financially and job prospect challenged, unsupervised, squashed animal into society is a danger to all, and that is where the government is clearly at fault.

    I implore all to** not just attack this guy**, but the government for failing to provide us with the safest conditions possible when these people are released. Remember they are always saying that rehabilitation is their goal. Well, do you think this guy was rehabilitated? Would things have been different if he (and us) had been given some of the things that I mentioned before?

    Matsui did nothing to make sure that such a thing would not happen, therefore he has no business popping off. He should be bowing to the cameras, apologizing and telling us that he has assigned a group of professionals to make sure that this will not happen again, not taking the opportunity to get media attention for his political future. Get rid of the barbaric system and incorporate something that gives these people and us a chance when they are released.

    **Gov. Matsui. You should apologize. You are at fault, too. **

  • 0

    imap2223

    And the arrogant callousness of an elected official to recommend to his own people to off themselves without any mention of seeking assistance is sickening as well. How about, "SEEK HELP FIRST BEFORE OFFING OTHERS OR YOURSELF" to an already suicidally prone population? The governor's job is to help make people's lives better not recommend suicide! How ridiculously irresponsible and shallow. He can think it, but not say it. It serves no purpose at all.

  • -3

    wasabizuki

    His punishment should be letting anyone who wants to be able to take a "stab" at him. He didn't want to die, he just wanted to kill someone.

  • 0

    6wings

    Obviously this is just speculation but I don't think he was sure that he wanted to die. I think it is more likely that he felt powerless in his life and wanted to feel powerful by taking the lives of others.

  • 1

    TigersTokyoDome

    Matsui told a news conference that if Isohi really wanted to die, there were many ways he could have done it

    The governments advice for people suffering from depression and wanting to end their lives. No wonder Japan has one of the highest (if not the highest) rates of suicide at around 33,000 deaths a year.

    Isohi was released from a prison in Niigata Prefecture two weeks ago. He had been serving time for assault and possession of stimulants. He was quoted as telling police that he was frustrated at having no home and no job prospects, and that he didn’t want to live anymore

    More proof that time spent in jail with very little counselling or no help in changing their lives, results in more crime. If people continue to ignore mental health issues and cry out for life sentences and death penalties (like the idiots who posted when this story broke) then there are plenty more of these incidents waiting around the corner.

  • 1

    shanabelle

    Hashimoto is no longer the Guv....not his bad this one.

  • 2

    TigersTokyoDome

    Seriously, I am so angry about this... as if people don't have enough to be afraid of now they have excreta like this running about killing people to satisfy some twisted death wish.

    Don't just blame the guy who murdered two people. He wasn't going to change his thought process just by himself. if you are so angry how people like this are walking our streets (and you do have a point about that) then aim your anger at the complete lack of treatment and counselling for people like Isohi. A life of crime, jail, unemployment, no money and homelessness results in incidents like this. Get angry with politicians like Matsui who say kill yourself instead of offering counselling and treatment.

  • 0

    Jack Morris

    he got away with saying this because in japan japan suicide is not frownd upon

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