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  badreligionMay. 28, 2009 - 09:13AM JST

  There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies to give himself away. A guy has seventeen "pantomimes". A woman's got twenty, but a guy's got seventeen. And if you know 'em like ya know your own face, they beat lie detectors all to hell.

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  graftonMay. 28, 2009 - 09:19AM JST

  Truth is what you want to believe & a lie is what you don’t want to believe. Now try & prove me wrong & see where it gets you.

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  jonnyboyMay. 28, 2009 - 09:28AM JST

  supposedly body language such as looking away, touching the face, excess fidgeting are enough if you are well enough attuned. people tend to overcompensate when they're telling porkies

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  jonnyboyMay. 28, 2009 - 09:30AM JST

  Truth is what you want to believe & a lie is what you don’t want to believe. Now try & prove me wrong & see where it gets you.

  i agree, but you're talking about subjective truth. there is also objectively verifiable scientific truth (such as the weight of an atom) which is not a matter of opinion

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  graftonMay. 28, 2009 - 09:34AM JST

  jonnyboy at 09:30 AM JST - 28th May

  OK, now prove that to me. Here on JT.

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  hakujinsenseiMay. 28, 2009 - 09:56AM JST

  its all just calculus...

  for every truth there is lie,

  and as the lie approaches truth,

  the difference between lie and truth approaches zero,

  so that we can assume that truth and lie are the same.

  there is your proof

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  nandakandamandaMay. 28, 2009 - 10:12AM JST

  It depends on the person telling it, and the meaning of the lie.

  Pathological liars are so good you get fooled the first time, and maybe the second, but then you get wise.

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  frontandcentreMay. 28, 2009 - 12:01PM JST

  If it's a politician, it's quite easy to tell when they are lying - their lips move

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  jonnyboyMay. 28, 2009 - 12:04PM JST

  jonnyboy at 09:30 AM JST - 28th May OK, now prove that to me. Here on JT.

  i wholly agree with you regarding your original point. self-deception is a powerful thing. but are you suggesting you feel the same way about science? because if so you are suggesting that 1+1=2 is also just something that one might choose to believe. with this i disagree

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  OneForAllMay. 28, 2009 - 12:20PM JST

  "Truth is what you want to believe & a lie is what you don’t want to believe. Now try & prove me wrong & see where it gets you." Well said grafton

  Truth is a positive and a lie negative. Works for true things. Like 1+1=2. "It is not true!" This negative statement is a lie by definition making 1+1=2 true... which is true and follows your definitions. Now a lie. 1+1=5. "It is not true!" I do not want to believe it. A lie. Therefore it must be true. However, we know it is not.... see where it got me... confused but fun to think about.

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  lazarus0202May. 28, 2009 - 12:29PM JST

  I disagree. NOT fun to think about. Thanks, now I have a headache.

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  jonnyboyMay. 28, 2009 - 01:06PM JST

  Truth is a positive and a lie negative. Works for true things. Like 1+1=2. "It is not true!" This negative statement is a lie by definition making 1+1=2 true... which is true and follows your definitions. Now a lie. 1+1=5. "It is not true!" I do not want to believe it. A lie. Therefore it must be true. However, we know it is not.... see where it got me... confused but fun to think about.

  thanks for completely derailing the discussion

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  AltriaMay. 28, 2009 - 01:28PM JST

  Their lips are moving!!!

  Hahaha...ha...cough

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  timorborderMay. 28, 2009 - 01:54PM JST

  It depends on the situation. If you have them tied up and are using a cattle prod, they tend to cry and say "OK, I will tell you the truth" after you have shocked them 5 or 6 times.

  Generally speaking, an inability or unwillingness to maintain eye-contact is a good indication that somebody is being less than honest. Of course, this can be confirmed by the use of the aforementioned cattle prod.

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  jonnyboyMay. 28, 2009 - 01:56PM JST

  waterboarding references would've been more topical!

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  jackfishMay. 28, 2009 - 02:07PM JST

  "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, and you can't get fooled again." Bonus points for the speaker of those infamous words.

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  Den DenMay. 28, 2009 - 02:16PM JST

  If you threaten them, they usually tell the truth pretty pronto.

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  TahoochiMay. 28, 2009 - 02:55PM JST

  My nose usually twitches when I lie.

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  Ah_soMay. 28, 2009 - 05:13PM JST

  Go through the lie, looking for inconsistencies. They get very vague when pushed for details and their eyes "swim" when they need that split second to create that new details.

  Look into their eyes, not around the eyes, look into their eyes.

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  Ah_soMay. 28, 2009 - 05:19PM JST

  Truth is a positive and a lie negative. Works for true things. Like 1+1=2. "It is not true!" This negative statement is a lie by definition making 1+1=2 true... which is true and follows your definitions. Now a lie. 1+1=5. "It is not true!" I do not want to believe it. A lie. Therefore it must be true. However, we know it is not.... see where it got me... confused but fun to think about.

  What's the Japanese for Epistemology?

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  USARoninMay. 28, 2009 - 05:21PM JST

  Odds are if someone is a practiced psychopath, you can't.

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  NessieMay. 28, 2009 - 07:44PM JST

  Ah, Front, you beat me to the punch again!

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  DXXJPMay. 28, 2009 - 08:51PM JST

  I usually waterboard everybody to get the truth.

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  KnowBetterMay. 29, 2009 - 02:54AM JST

  "timorborder at 01:54 PM JST - 28th May

  Generally speaking, an inability or unwillingness to maintain eye-contact is a good indication that somebody is being less than honest."

  Well then, based on that Japanese must lie a lot then since they tend to avoid a lot of eye contact when speaking to each other. Or is that a cultural thing we read about to hide the fact that no one ever says no which then proves that "timorborder" is correct. Hmmmm...

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  telecasterplayerMay. 29, 2009 - 05:44AM JST

  If it's a cop, lawyer, politician or a journo, when his lips move.

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  gaijintravellerMay. 29, 2009 - 07:05AM JST

  When a person repeats a lie often enough, they often believe it themselves. If the person has convinced himself the lie is true, you cannot tell.

  Ask someone if Dick Cheney is a nice guy. Answer: No. Waterboard or cattle-prod him. Answer: No. Repeat waterboarding or cattle-prod. Answer: Yes.

  This demonstrates how waterboarding or a cattle-prod do not guarantee the truth, but are more likely to provide the answer the torturer desires.

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  SargeMay. 29, 2009 - 08:06AM JST

  Hire a private investigator.

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  blvtzpkMay. 29, 2009 - 08:50AM JST

  They change their story after a good ol' session of traditional waterboarding.

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  stirfryMay. 29, 2009 - 11:00AM JST

  if they're politicians, lawyers, or pretty much anyone in finance and sales, they're always lying

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  ProffesorMay. 29, 2009 - 02:12PM JST

  I can't tell because I am a liar too

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  DarkKnightNineMay. 29, 2009 - 04:39PM JST

  "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, and you can't get fooled again." Bonus points for the speaker of those infamous words.

  That would be that idiot the destroyed the world economy to line his and his family's pockets, G.W. Bush

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  SargeMay. 29, 2009 - 05:33PM JST

  Proffesor - Good one.

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  nandakandamandaMay. 29, 2009 - 06:02PM JST

  They've got their fingers crossed behind their back?

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  tigerguyMay. 29, 2009 - 06:34PM JST

  You can see that lying look and their face turns into a sneaky fox look.

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  XXXXXMay. 30, 2009 - 12:50AM JST

  they scratch their nose

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  dracpoo2Jun. 03, 2009 - 12:37PM JST

  If they are doing what I do when I lie....speak with excess conviction, and too much drama.

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