Sunday May 27, 2012
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    zaboomba

    If worn by flu/cold infected subjects, the masks prevent the illnesses from spreading rather than protecting who's wearing them.

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    noborito

    Notginger most warm moist environments are actually bad for incubation of viruses. These need cooler drier environments i.e. it is easier to get the flu in winter. The virus speed in replication decreases in this environment.

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    nandakandamanda

    A mask alone in the hands of an idiot may not be too much help.

    A mask, plus a set of tips on proper use, can be a useful barrier both in and out, especially with some of these amazing Japanese 99% cut jobbies.

    As an example of 'proper use', the mask needs to be changed every few hours.

    If you want 100% protection, then you need goggles etc., but a mask has to help in slowing down the spread of explosive airborne particles.

    The above is just my personal opinion, adjusted by exposure to the world media.

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    TokyoXtreme

    Masks aren't as useful as taking vitamins C and D for cold and flu, respectively.

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    TokyoXtreme

    And by "useful", I meant "effective". Sigh.

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    Richardson

    The ordinary face masks that people wear when they have a cold are indeed good only for preventing the relatively large particles ejected by coughing, sneezing, etc. from passing through, but do not stop the tiny particles that most pathogens ride from entering.

    For that, you need a surgical mask, of the rating N95. Theye have a much smaller mesh, and should be effective. It would be advisable, however, to disinfect these periodically.

    Probably the best thing to have on hand in the event of the flu is MMS. See: http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm This article is on the website of a physician/researcher who has specialised for some time in oxidative therapy, especially involving activated sodium chlorite, which is what MMS is. Clicking "Back to home page" will reveal many other pages on chlorine dioxide uses.

    This page by the principal researcher and developer of the MMS protocol deals with MMS and the Swine Flu virus. http://jimhumble.biz/biz-newflu.htm

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    Patrick Smash

    They're very useful for severe hangovers. If you get really drunk, stick one on and go to work. It's an act of heroism then. They won't stop the flu.

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    Tatsumaru

    If they werent effective on some level, doctors and medical staff wouldn't use them. Having the right one for the right situation is what is important.

    But colds and flus aren't always a function of airborne activity. They prevent one level of entry, assuming it wasn't on food in the first place. In general, it is a semi-effective and courteous thing to do for those around them than combating anything "contact-contact" transmitted sickness. So it will help against getting it while walking down the street, but once you touch something, you still run the risk of getting it.

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    PoisonedV

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but those look like dustmasks, not ultra high tech hepa filtered masks- wouldnt a virus only be effectively blocked out by a filter working at a microscopic level? Not to mention the other problems brought up, so I don't see how it would help. Biology isn't my area of science, though, so I'm not qualified to make any real judgements

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    telecasterplayer

    This isn't a matter of opinion, either masks work or they don't.

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    Nessie

    "Face masks"? In the sense that "face masks" make you look like the slasher from an eighties gore flick, I think they're very effective. "Surgical-style masks," on the other hand...

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    Nessie

    This isn't a matter of opinion, either masks work or they don't.

    Next thing you'll be wanting evidence.

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    realist

    Face masks as used in Japan are useless - as waste of space and time. People wearing them look ridiculous.

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    nandakandamanda

    So, to sum up, we are all agreed that they are about 60~70% useful then?

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    flammenwerfer

    they are useful for people who are already sick to provide a barrier between us and their breathing, coughing and sneezing - not a perfect barrier by any stretch but slightly better than nothing.

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    bamboohat

    Flu, swine flu, normal flu, even colds are most contageous BEFORE symptoms appear. So if you wait until you feel like you've got something to wear a mask, it's too late. AND generally the mode of infection is

    germs on surface-->germs on hands-->germs in eyes

    In either case the mask only provides the protection of a placebo, which is proven to be much better than nothing.

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    jonnyboy

    vs. making a habit of getting a good night's sleep? not at all

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    nandakandamanda

    This lady doctor reckons they can be useful: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Swine-Flu-Dr-Sarah-Jarvis-Answers-Questions/Article/200905115273077?lpos=UKNewsFirstHomePageFeatureTeaserRegion0&lid=ARTICLE15273077SwineFluDrSarahJarvisAnswersQuestions

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    Disillusioned

    They are effective for removing small dust particles from the air and do work well in controlling allergy attacks from the pollen. However, as an effective barrier against a flu virus they are a placebo. For gauze masks to be effective against viruses they need to be 12x surgical grade gauze mask and discarded every 20 minutes. As soon as they get moist and warm they actually create the perfect environment for bacteria to live. Furthermore, flu viruses are not usually transmittable by air. They are usually transmitted by sharing a handrail and wiping your finger in your eye.

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    techall

    A virus goes through a gauze or cottom mask like a gnat through a chain link fence. However, they reduce the "range" of fluids expectorated via a caugh or sneeze.

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    WMD

    Of course they're useless but in japan that's not the point. It's a pretend show of gaman and consideration for others. Ha ha! They should learn to cover their mouths when they cough and sneeze etc. Anyway as japanese all seem to have to be the same and do the same things, they have no choice but to wear them. However it would be far more effective for the invalides to wear gloves so that they don't contaminate surfaces. But Japanese don't wear gloves as they would never do something that that the group isn't doing.

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    Fadamor

    A facemask will only catch the ejection of mucous and saliva when the person wearing it coughs or sneezes. Any airborne contagions are going to be breathed in because the mask is not air-tight. As such, wearing one to PREVENT getting sick is a waste of time, but if you already have symptoms and can't stay at home, it will reduce (not eliminate) the chance that you'll get someone else sick. So based on the title of this thread, a facemask IS useful in combating the SPREAD of colds, but doesn't help the wearer from getting sick themselves.

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    jonnyboy

    it's like anything over here; if a certain "critical mass" is reached everyone will feel obliged to partake

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