What are your views on same-sex marriages?

Wednesday 18th June, 07:58 AM JST

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Naruki_Oni at 01:46 PM JST - 20th June

As long as marriage continues to be an official State issue, then it should follow all Federal legal rules regarding anti-discrimination.

Currently we have billions of metric tons of hypocrisy.

Either get rid of marriage or get rid of the discrimination.

As for the comment about gays opposing gay marriage: so what? Plenty of women still oppose women's suffrage. People can often be very stupid in strange ways, and their opinions in those matters generally aren't worth wiping with.
rtrhead1 at 08:26 PM JST - 20th June

I have no problem with gay marriage. What I do have a problem with is what they did to the birth certificates. It is no longer mother and father. It is, I believe Parent #1 and Parent #2. That seems to me like pushing your beliefs on us. I am a father. My wife is the mother. Children have a MOTHER AND FATHER! It is a fact! In order to be alive, you must have a BIOLOGICAL MOTHER AND FATHER. They don't just spontaneusly create themselves. That's what I heard on the news, although I may have missed something...
farhaan at 08:42 PM JST - 20th June

H9ll of them, why they need marriage ? There is no meaning. Why don't they go to some hill and live together.
Pukey2 at 09:39 PM JST - 20th June

Cleo:

The law should not be giving anyone a free pension etc., just for sitting at home and washing someone's socks.

So, in essence, you're saying hetero marriages should not be allowed. I would guess that most gay couples work, and most of them would certainly not stop doing so if they were allowed to marry. Hell, the foreign spouse can even stop working, children or no children. Yep, life's rosy - for straights. Now, for gays, that's totally impossible.
GJP2006 at 09:40 PM JST - 20th June

Parent #1 and Parent #2 That's what I heard on the news, although I may have missed something...

I think you misheard - the "marriage licenses" state partner or party 1 and 2 - not the birth certificates - that is a completely different matter. Children born to male-female biological parents would designate mother or father and in the case of a single parent - the absent parent would either be designated, if known, or a dash would be placed through the certificate - same for adoption. If a gay or lesbian couple (surrogacy, adoption) - they could petition for a "parent-type designation" on the cert. Hope that clears it up...
cleo at 11:57 PM JST - 20th June

So, in essence, you're saying hetero marriages should not be allowed

Not at all. I'm saying able-bodied people (whatever kind of relationship they may be in, gay or hetero) who are capable of work should not be given fiscal incentives in the form of free pensions, free health insurance and tax breaks to sit at home while those who work subsidise them.

Hell, the foreign spouse can even stop working, children or no children.

I'm not saying they can't. Gay or straight, it's up to the couple concerned to decide for themselves whether they're going to be single-income or double-income. But whether they're straight or gay, you and I should not be paying for their pensions and health insurance. If they're able-bodied, they can pay their own way. If the working spouse earns enough that one income is enough, then the working spouse should pay for two. Let me repeat, I'm talking about all married couples, gay and straight.
sdmsec at 03:47 AM JST - 21st June

Whehter I agree with Cleo's attitude toward stay-at-home spouses or not I think it's hard to dispute that in a Socialist-leaning society (which unfortunately the USA has become) a redefinition of marriage will definitely have an impact on all citizens at least financially.

In a less socialist, less tax-burdensome society marriage wouldn't affect me financially, but as we have become a socialist society I think it's disingenuous for many of the posters here to claim "it doesn't affect you at all". Regardless of whether it's right or wrong to legalize gay marriage it will have an impact on our society financially and in my opinion socially. Also, IMO both impacts will be negative.
Damax6 at 09:25 AM JST - 21st June

to each his own, they might divorce just like heteros, what the BIG deal, let them do as they please, we heteros do it.
Pukey2 at 11:26 AM JST - 21st June

Let me repeat, I'm talking about all married couples, gay and straight.

So why all this dislike towards gays and their legal rights? You are posting in the wrong thread if your comments were aimed at all married couples. Relationships between gay people of different nationalities have had to end because their relationships are not recognized legally and one of them has to leave the country. As I've said before, most gay people work and I think will continue to work after marriage if it were legalized. Just look at the people out having coffee, playing tennis, etc during the weekday afternoons - lots of middle aged women, many probably not having to look after children, but just spending their husbands' money. Perhaps you should complain about these people first instead of denying rights to others. I've come across a few women who have married men and have decided not to have kids but just have a nice life going on vacations and spending money. Hell, how am I going to complain about all this? And should both straight partners work after the kids have grown up and left home? I bet a lot don't.
cleo at 01:01 PM JST - 21st June

Pukey -

Please show me where I have expressed 'dislike towards gays and their legal rights'.

Just look at the people out having coffee, playing tennis, etc during the weekday afternoons - lots of middle aged women, many probably not having to look after children, but just spending their husbands' money. Perhaps you should complain about these people first

Errm, I have, on this thread and on other threads about pensions, etc. The Mod has been pretty radical with his editing knife (slash, cut, slice...) but I think enough remains to make that pretty clear.

should both straight partners work after the kids have grown up and left home?

Straight or gay, that's their decision to make, not mine or yours (as I answered before - what's the matter, can't you read?) Just please don't ask me to pay for their pensions and health insurance as well as my own while their hubbies (not mine, because his wife works) get a nice little tax allowance for having a 'dependent' wife. And to stay on topic and mollify the Mod, the gender of the 'dependent wife' is not an issue.
Graywolf0813 at 05:06 AM JST - 22nd June

Since the dawn of time there are people who have been attracted to the same sex and those living with each other for a very long time ' Now about same-sex marriage is another story ' I for one do not agree with same-sex marriage but that is the government to decide ' Each state and country has different rules to marriage of the same sex but who are we to decide if its right or wrong ' We might not agree but life goes on '
cwhite at 06:00 PM JST - 22nd June

just don't call it marriage as it gets confusing. Why don't you all pick a different name for men x2 and women x2 there must be some cool foreign dialects that can portray their status. Not sure if the benefits should be the same, but considering their aren't any real benefits that come out of marriage in Japan who cares.
jonnyboy at 03:50 PM JST - 23rd June

in the words of chris rock; of course i'm for gay marriage. gay people have a right to be just as miserable as the rest of us!
Zen_Builder at 07:08 AM JST - 25th June

I was taught by my grandfather that 2(TWO) things make the world go round:

They are SEX and MONEY.

Said that I have NO problem with same-sex couples and their marriages.
realist at 03:13 PM JST - 21st July

The words "same sex" and "marriage" do not go together - its just not natural. The Divinely-ordained plan for human marriage is between one man and one woman, period. I have nothing against gays in civil partnerships - but please, dont call it "marriage" - that it definately aint.