JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Why do some celebrities self-destruct due to substance abuse?
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What do you think are the main reasons why U.S. car sales are so low in Japan?
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What can be done to ease escalating tensions between the West and Iran over its nuclear program? And should Japan join sanctions against Iran?
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What do you think of the revised plan to realign U.S. forces in Japan by sending some Marines to Guam, and rotating others to Australia, the Philippines, Hawaii and possibly Iwakuni in Yamaguchi Prefecture?
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Why are there so many deaths due to snow-related accidents (people falling off rooftops, for example) in Japan this winter?
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rjd_jr
The beef of course, as well as cooking method.
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some14some
Hunger, depends how hungry you are at that particular moment.
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rjaspl
some14some has it right..
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Farmboy
Average ones are available.
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smartacus
For one thing, it doesn't have to be like that monstrous burger that JT had its Picture of the Day a few weeks ago. The patty should be char-broiled, and the onions should be cooked. You should be able to bite into it without everything spilling out onto you. Finally, choice of topping is important for me. I like beetroot on mine and the only place on Tokyo I can find one is the New Zealand Travel Cafe in Roppongi. I also had a really good avocado burger at Burgermania in Shirokane the other day.
All this talk of burgers -- looks like I'm having a burger for lunch today.
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capone
the same things that differentiate a really good anything from an average anything...quality of the ingredients...its not that difficult
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Area66
The 'Slide' factor... "The more likely the ingredients between the buns have of 'sliding' out when you try to bite into the burger, the better the burger will be". This factor applies to virtually all sandwiches.
To phrase it another way, "The more of a mess it makes to eat, the more likely it is that it will taste great". It's like Pizza; if the cheese doesn't have to be have those final strands helped to separate by using the hand not holding the slice, and bits of topping aren't falling off all over the place, it really isn't a very good pizza.
This comment may not have helped your appetite, but it could help you pick a great burger (or Pizza) place from a just 'so-so' place to eat.
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Orangeporange
The beef for starters. Has to be 100% with no fillers and frest ground. The toppings come 2nd, a good combo of toppings from the cheese, to the veggies to the ketchup and mustard...add a good, fresh bun and you have yourself a good hamburger...I really miss Fuddruckers!
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GrouchyGaijin
Sorry moderator: Tony Roma's Cheeseburger......to live and die for!
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Sarge
A really good hamburger has to be grilled outdoors on a charcoal grill.
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Everton2
replace the meat with grilled fish and you have the makings of a super burger
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user1684
"Juicy junior, juicy."
It's gotta be juicy.
Char-broiled tastes better than not
Crust on the outside to seal in those yummy juices.
With or without filler.
Cheese: take it or leave it.
Condiments: for me onions raw or cooked, a little ketchup, tiny bit of lettuce
Bun: has to be fresh and not too hard, toasted or not either way is fine with me.
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cleo
It's ground-up charred animal flesh stuffed in a bun. The term 'really good' does not apply.
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KitsuneYoukai
A good burger with that charcoal grilled taste has to be the first priority, however it doesn't have to be cooked outside. I've had it both ways and sometimes outside grilling is not always the best. The best burger so far I've tasted at a restaurant has to be Pappas Burger on Westheimer Rd Houston, TX where the juicyness and chargrilled taste is fantastic. They serve the burger in a red basket with the fries and a real big steak knife. Next is Chris Madrids on Blanco Rd in San Antonio, TX where not only are the burgers fresh but the fries are made from scratch which you can have next to your Cheddar Burger "all the way" of course.
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OssanULTRA
Taste.
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Sarge
Everton - If you replaced the meat with fish it wouldn't be a burger it'd be a fish sandwich.
Cleo - You don't know what's really good ha ha ha You're right in that it is indeed ground-up animal flesh. But it's great-tasting ground-up animal flesh! A lot better tasting than a tofu "burger" anyway. Hey! Stop looking at me with those sad cow eyes! Dammit! Now I don't want to eat burgers again! You, you... gaa!
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Blue_Tiger
Great Burgers are like Great Artwork: if it takes less than 15 minutes to prepare from start to finish, it can't be truly great.
For example:
McDonald's Burgers - 5-7 minutes tops to prepare (average on their best day) TGIF's Burgers - 15-25 minutes to prepare (delicious and wonderful every time I have visited)
Personally, I believe that the more care and preparation a chef/cook puts into the burger, the better it'll be. Anyone can take a frozen, freezer-beef patty, fry it up, put it between a bun and add any amount of condiments. The best you may get is a naverage burger. On the otherh and, however, if one takes that frozen, freezer-beef patty, takes a reasonable amount of time to cook it in any particular way, and actually cares about what s/he is doing, it can be a great burger.
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cleo
Sarge - Bean burgers and lentil burgers have more bite to them than any sad ol'tofu burger. I've got a recipe for healthy curried lentil burgers that would blow your organic cotton socks off. Safely.
:-)
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presidentbaka
What differentiates a really good hamburger from an average one?
That's easy: Any burger NOT made in Japan!
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capone
also in japan, the more expensive one MUST be the better one, right ?
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Ah_so
Best burgers are the ones I make myself:
If you do not have time, a Freshness Burger does the trick for me.
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EurajReturns
The ones you make yourself are the best, of course. You know what you put in it for one thing. And of course, the hard work makes it taste better, and perhaps, can kill some of those calories you just put on.
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Sarge
Ah so - "a Freshness Burger does the trick for me"
Negi-Miso? Classic? I like both of those.
Cleo - Well, let's have the curried lentil burger recipe already! I'm licking my chops...
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M_Lammerse
A good hamburger is not cheap, fatty, is not killed by an overdosis of fatty sauces, is not sold at Mac Donaldo, Dom Dom burger or any other fast fat restaurant, is not hold by 2 slices of bread made out of eatable clay. It is not made of soy, rice but of 100% beef, prepared on a hotplate or roast fire.
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timeon
I like Mos Burger. not great, but a good choice in Japan
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Triumvere
Home grilled.
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thepossum
A great burger starts with a good side of beef. And barring none that is a black angus ! Hands down ! The key is in the marinade. At least 4 hours, in the fridge, and don't forget the garlic... cloves, paste, or powder, it all works. Slap it on an open grill and just let it sizzle ! Throw it on a bun with plenty of fressh veggies and a relish and viola ... heaven ! Unfortunately there is not one single restaurant in Japan able to complete such a simple task. So for anyone interested in a really great burger, try Pilot Butte Drive In or Deschutes Brewery in Oregon... simply the best !
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Sarge
Possum - Since "there is not one single restaurant in Japan able to complete such a simple task" are you doing this simple task at home?
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frontandcentre
Big chunks of avocado enhance any good burger
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thepossum
Sarge... I complete that "simple task" anytime anywhere they let me near the grill ! I find it simply astonishing that of all the experts on America out there, not one of them has the ability to put together a really authentic American style burger ! We're not talkin' fast food here either. Calling McDonalds a representative of American style hamburgers is dead wrong and humurous at best. However with Japans ongoing bans to keep out "all" things American, its safe to say the only place the Japanese will have a real American burger is in... the USA !
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Ultradude
Try Kuai Aina (various locations: Aoyama, Kanda, Gotanda, Marunouchi)or my favorite Franklin Ave in Gotanda (the nice part). Both are excellent and it is always a good sign when they ask you how you'd like it cooked and it takes a while to prepare. AS Classics is near Komazawa Koen and isn't bad either.
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thepossum
"Try Kuai Aina"
I have, in Ikkspiari next to Disneyland ! Absolute krap ! The buns were hard, which is fine if we're talkin about the waitress... but we're not ! Anyway, the meat was flavorless, the seating impolite (I had to show a receipt to be seated), and the staff no-where to be found. Overall a horrible disappointment !
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Ultradude
thepossum - Sorry to hear that, maybe they've overexpanded too much and quality has suffered accordingly... Been a fan ever since I went to the original on the North Shore of Oahu about 15 yrs ago but haven't been in 2+ yrs. Have a grill at home now so I do my own just like I ordered...
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Sarge
Possum - "the only place the Japanesae will have a real American burger is in the USA!"
What about Hard Rock Cafe?
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PuffinMuffin
"frontandcentre at 03:14 PM JST - 7th May Big chunks of avocado enhance any good burger"
No kidding? Perhaps in Mexico or Hawaii, but I wouldn't take chances with that risky combination (too much fat/oil together). A burger's pure grease anyway.
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Ivespoken
Well any burger with that special Jack Daniel's sauce is a really good hamburger, LOL honestly..... The bigger the badder... esp. when the meat is kosher and and all the condiments are on juuuuusssttt right, lol
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