Revealed: secrets of ancient Chinese medicinal herb
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sourpuss
Gosh! Are scientists saying that it doesn't work by magic? What a shock! And I suppose next they'll isolate the active ingredients and mass produce it.
Justly, of course, they should incur the wrath of eastern-fetishist backpackers and modern spiritualists who think "western"medicine is the incarnation of evil, and anything "mystical" is the truth. Take three downward-facing dogs, and call me in the morning.
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cramp
whats really fantastical is how china/chinese came up with all this medicinal stuff a thousand years ago and western medicine is just beginning to understand and decipher it
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Jay Que
Seems like the real deal.
http://www.herbcyclopedia.com/index.php?option=comzoo&task=item&itemid=340&Itemid=193
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JeffLee
whats really fantastical is how china/chinese came up with all this medicinal stuff a thousand years ago
It wasn't "fantastical." It was a basic hit and miss approach. Some plants worked, others didn't. Retain those that work, throw out those that didn't. Over several centuries you end up with a catalogue of medicine.
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Howaitosan
I can never understand it when modern medical scientists express surprise when one of these ancient remedies proves to be effective. Chinese traditional medicine has a 5,000 year history; that is one hell of a long clinical trial!
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zichi
I like the ancient Chinese system of medicine. You only paid your doctor when you were well.
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Serrano
"You only paid your doctor when you were well"
That would never work today with all the sick and injured people we've got.
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zichi
@Serrano
yes! because modern medicine has a vested interest to prolong sickness and carry out unnecessary operations. In ancient China your doctor would visit your home every week to ensure you were keeping in good health.
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JeffLee
modern medicine has a vested interest to prolong sickness
Which is why humans developed the longest lifespans in history once modern medicine hit the scene. Oh, hang on...
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zichi
@JeffLee
there's a serious problem with over medication especially with the use of antibiotics which has led to new drug resistant diseases.
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zichi
yes! modern medicine has help to increase the life span of people has have many of the modern operations but today many more also die from taking medicines and many have serious side effects.
But medicine alone didn't increase the life spans. It was also due to many other factors like people not living in cold damp and unheated homes. Less city pollution. Better working conditions in the factories. More food on the table. Less women dying in childbirth.
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Ranger_Miffy2
Zichi-san, you are stubbornly the voice of reason. Well done. And...yoi otoshi wo. :-)
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badsey3
=you are looking at 2000+ years. People need to eat better and not just try to score "free" McDonald's 60sec burgers. A great start for the "McDonald's generation" would be to buy one of those nano-diamond (ceramic) coated pans and a top and use it as a steamer. I like using this even better than the fuzzy-logic steam cookers, but still need the rice cooker if you have food sitting longer term. Then you need to get some rice and vegetables (Chinese medicine).
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badsey3
http://www.five-element.com/graphics/neijing.pdf
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Frungy
... just like modern medicine and clinical trials, or any process using the scientific method. The same logic, observe -> theorise -> test -> correct theory -> retest -> etc.
This was no more "hit and miss" than modern science.
What is fantastic is that they identified these beneficial substances when they're at such amazingly low doses in naturally occurring plants, and are often paired with harmful substances in the plant, so the dosage must be precise. Too much and you kill, just enough and you cure, not enough and there's no effect.
Of course no-one will give any credit to the doctors who discovered these substances a thousand years ago, and the pharmaceutical companies will trademark the enzymes despite them being naturally occurring and pretend that they were the first ones to discover them. It's such a hugely colonial attitude, like some explorer wandering along and saying, "I discovered this place!" ... while surrounded by locals saying, "What's that guy so proud of, we've been here for hundreds of years.".
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zichi
In the Brazilian rain forrest there are hundreds and thousands of trees and plants which need to be investigated for their medical properties before they disappear.
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JeffLee
It's odd then that China's own health ministry gave up on Chinese medicine a long time ago. During the SARS outbreak, for instance, they relied exclusively on Western drugs to contain the outbreak. Why? Because THEY know from hard experience what works and what doesn't work
When China used to rely on their own medicine, back in the old days, plenty of people died from things like cholera and whooping cough.
The only people who believe in traditional Chinese medicine are naive Westerners.
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zichi
@jefflee
and today, plenty of people die from heart diseases, cancers, diabetics, drug resistant diseases,
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JeffLee
@zichi
Yes, as you indicate the major killers in modern western societies now are linked to lifestyle, not germs and viruses, because modern medicine has eradicated or controlled so many of those ailments. AIDS, for example.
But hey, if you opt to consume lots of sugar, fat, get no exercise, smoke, shoot heroin, etc., that's another topic. and it surely isn't modern medicine's fault.
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zichi
@jefflee
yes life style is an important part of good health and living without stress too. Americans are one of the most over medicated nations on the planet with tens of thousands addicted to sleeping pills and pain killers. The overuse of antibiotics has created drug resistant diseases. There are still many diseases medicine can't cure.
Ancient medicines sometimes have answers that modern medicines don't have so like pointed out in this post we can learn from that too instead of just dismissing it.
Even the humble aspirin was discovered from the bark of the Willow tree.
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