Aussie, NZ scientists prep for whale research trek to disprove Japan's argument
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OssanAmerica
Sounds to me like this is a valid, lawful and proper way to move towards closing the loophole. Criminal retards from the Sea Shepherd eco-terrorist organization shouldn't be quoted in the same article.
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Badsey
= We must harass the whales in their natural environment in the name of "research.". All whales must be weighed, tagged and tracked.
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cleo
The Ady Gil was not harassing the Japanese fleet at the time of the ramming.
The IWC has already passed umpteen resolutions stating that Japan's lethal 'research' is not needed for the management and conservation of whales.
http://www.iwcoffice.org/meetings/resolutions/resolution2007.htm
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stirfry
aw c'mon Cleo, you're letting facts get in the way of a story :)
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bushlover
[There, the researchers will use darts to remove bits of tissue for biopsy sampling]
That is just bad. The poor whales will suffer pain and have to live the rest of their days with humans taking samples from their bodies. They'd be better off dead and on a plate.
[The Ady Gil was not harassing the Japanese fleet at the time of the ramming.]
No it was just sitting and waiting to move into it's path. It was taking a break in it's harassment.
[The IWC has already passed umpteen resolutions stating that Japan's lethal 'research' is not needed for the management and conservation of whales.]
That's right. Research comes hand in hand with hunting. And Japan taking those whales and not affecting the population too much proves that it is sustainable for the few countries that want to do it. So if you don't want to do it fine with that. But those that want to well then fine with that too. But not for the die-hard animal lovers. Remember the seals? They were cute and white and fluffy. Can't kill them.
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dontknockit
Well it would be nice to get the air cleared so that science won't have this stupid stain on it. Trouble is the reason for the lie is still alive and well. There is no reason why the whale should be any more sacred than another animal. The only argument against whaling that makes any comparitive sense is that its even harder to kill a whale humanely. But you would have to a crack smoker to think most animals killed for food are killed humanely! If one whale dying means 100 other animals get to live, that's better. No animals dying for food at all would be ideal though.
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seaforte03
Too much attention on whaling...not enough on Tuna - haven't you heard the tuna are disappearing? That's the main staple of sushi/sashimi. Save the Tuna! As for the cetacean institute - ludicrous logic. They're "studying" the species to death. Sacrificing hundreds in the name of research (to obtain an effective sampling population) is absolutely ludicrous. Please...have some respect for your professed profession and at least develop a mildly plausible lie (aka the Weapons of Mass Destruction was a really good one).
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bushlover
They are researching sustainable whaling. So far they've proven that it can be done with out adversely affecting the populations. Then it shouldn't be banned. Just strictly controlled.
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ShonanMaruNo2
Come aboard the Andy Gil 2, we'll be waitin for ya, boys.
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sharkman
I don't understand why the Japanese, who are a wonderful and honorable people, would sacrifice that honor with this big lie. Whether you agree with the whaling or not, its clearly commercial whaling, not research. So why the big lie? These whaling activities cost Japanese taxpayers millions of dollars each year. The whaling isn't profitable - it doesn't make money for anyone other than a few select Japanese businesses and the tax payers are left holding a multi million dollar annual bill. The whole affair makes no sense except for the select few that are profiting from it. Does the Japanese public know about this?
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dontknockit
When the people you deal with are insanely hypocritical and violent, lying to them is the path of least resistance. But please, don't make whaling out to be a Japan thing. Most Japanese have no idea. And while I cannot speak for the honor of the whalers, I can say they are not entirely stupid. The whalers are as honest with the anti-whalers as the anti-whalers are with themselves.
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michaelqtodd
This is a good approach by these New Zealand and Australian scientists. Kudos to them
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hobbsy70
bushlover that is one of the stupidist arguments I have heard in these threads,"That is just bad. The poor whales will suffer pain and have to live the rest of their days with humans taking samples from their bodies. They'd be better off dead and on a plate."!?!?!?! So if someone is sick it is better they just die than undergo blood tests, or injections daily to rebalance blood levels such as diabetics, just hit them with an exploding harpoon, then hang them up to drown in their own blood! Why don't you be the one to tell them that. Your arguments just keep getting weaker & more ridiculous...
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hobbsy70
A link from Japan, using Japanese standards; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEfeIp8buU&NR=1
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jacquii
come on!! Most Japanese aged 50 & under have never eaten whale meat as a staple & most don't want to? Why must the Japanese govt keep up this charade of "research"? It's an international embarressment!!!
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michaelqtodd
@jacquii That is the whole point.If they cared one iota of what the world thought of them the Japanese would have given up long ago. That is why much stronger methods are necessary
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