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We don't need that. Give it to PKO in Sudan or somewhere.

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No argument just give them and do not disturb peace of mind...how much worth is Nobel Peace Prize anyway?

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Japan has been an exemplary Global citizen since 1945, and there is simply no denying that. This has continued through the last few years as their neighbours have started to unravel.

But, as nice as the idea is, I doubt it will fly.

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I think this is a good gesture and campaign. It absolutely smashes the tired old stereotypes about all Japanese as being ignorant and xenophobic war mongers, clueless as to their military past.

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Very interesting, if pacifist constitution or people is ever worthy of the peace prize, it should be awarded to the USA, shouldn't it? It was the USA that invented the pacifist Japan and keeps it at bay, USA USA ...

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It's a dream - give it a rest !

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Monaco hasn't had an army since the 17th century when it refused to join the arms race. Monaco gets the peace prize before Japan which has the world's 7th largest army.

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Japan has been an exemplary Global citizen since 1945, and there is simply no denying that

Um...excecpt for the whale hunting in an internationally agreed sanctuary?

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Nice sentiment - but the reality is that the Japanese people are powerless in deciding their nations pacifism or not. I wish they DID have the democratic option, however : it is very unlikely they would have voted to change their pacifist constitution.

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Um...excecpt for the whale hunting in an internationally agreed sanctuary?

Right. Except that the Nobel Peace Prize is to do with War and Armies, not environmental issues.

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Of all the utter nonsense. Ummmm. No. Stand in line behind countries like Monoco, Swtizerland, Iceland, Costa Rica and Liechtenstein before even DREAMING such a thing. You dont have wars with your neighbors and get the Nobel Peace Prize 70 years later. And the reason that Japan has not had any wars has nothing to do with its citizenery at all. It is due to what happened 70 years ago. It was not implememted of its own free will, but was a policy dictated to it. And now you have Abe trying to change the constitution? Um, no. It is a waste of time.

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There's about a $1.5M cash award for winning. That equates to approx. 1 US cent per Japanese person.

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As mentioned by a few - there are many countries without such constitution that have accomplished such feat. And they don't campaign to get an honorable mention. But the superiority complex of these people needs to feel proud of themselves one way or the other. Spreading the thought is their goal.

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I guess since various other nations have a much more pacifist history than Japan (Switzerland, Monaco etc.) the argument could be made that Japan went from one the most aggressive, brutal and inhumane nations to one of the most peaceful in a few years.

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Oh, give me a break! These people want a Nobel Peace Prize for pacifism at the very same time the leader they elected has gotten the right to revise article 9 so Japan can build its military machine and go to war?

oldman: "It absolutely smashes the tired old stereotypes about all Japanese as being ignorant and xenophobic war mongers, clueless as to their military past."

I don't know ANYONE who thinks all Japanese are xenophobic war-mongers, and in fact most people would likely agree that very few want to change the constitution, but you canNOT deny there are those in government who ARE what you speak of, and have indeed managed to get permission to change the constitution despite majority protest by the people. If they truly want to be recognized for their military pacifism, get rid of Abe and his ilk, the censorship in the media (as can be seen by Suga's interview and actions against NHK, for one example), and vote in someone who actually has peace in mind and is not just paying it lip-service while going about the opposite. Look at how relations are with Japan's neighbours since Abe took office (aside from those who he can buy off to isolate China -- which is not very pacifist).

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Sitting on the sidelines doesn't exactly warrant any sort of prize. What do these supporters actually think they've done to deserve consideration? This campaign seems more inspired by Nihonjinron thinking than any actual real world facts.

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Farmboy: It's not like Obama met those requirements, yet he received the prize anyway. There must be MANY other factors besides the listed requirements. There are a few other countries that might have a better or longer span of peace but Japan deserves it much more than the last two winners.

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Although Japan has not fought a war in 70 years, it has allowed America to fight the Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan wars from bases on its soil so that and the current attempts to allow collective defense and even change Article 9 should disqualify them.

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Don't tarnish the nice people of japan by giving them the same award they gave Obama, what an insult.

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There was a Japanese who receive Nobel Peace Prize in 1974. Eisaku Satoh.

Satoh introduced the Three Non-Nuclear Principles on 11 December 1967, which means non-production, non-possession, and non-introduction of nuclear weapons. He later suggested the "Four-Pillars Nuclear Policy". During the prime ministership of Satoh, Japan entered the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The Diet passed a resolution formally adopting the principles in 1971. For this he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1974.

You all probably knows who is Satoh's brother and his grand-nephew. So, I omit since this article is about some people campaigning. .

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In referring to WWII and more recent history, a more relavent comparison to Japan is Germany, which set a higher bar in showing remorse to its brutal war crimes and stay pacifist.

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Ironically the news story right below it in the site is "Abe pushes to build military". Japan was/is only pacifist because it was put in a corner and had no alternative...Pacifism served it's country well, with protection provided by THE USA, it was able to focus it's financial, intellectual, and manpower energies towards its economiy. The problem is the other countries in Asai know Japan better than ithe a Japanese people do.

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Uh, no. Just a decade ago, Japan's government under Koizumi cravenly supported America's invasion of Iraq in the hope that the USA would return the favor and "do something" about North Korea. Japan's government openly and brazenly supported the re-election of George W. Bush in 2004, ditching any pretense of staying out of the electoral affairs of another country. And for all this, Japan's voters rewarded Koizumi and the LDP with a landslide victory in the September 2005 general election. So again, no. There are many good people in Japan, but no way do they collectively deserve to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Qualified Nominators

According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

Members of national assemblies and governments of states

Members of international courts

University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes

Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Board members of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1

Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee

Candidacy Criteria

The candidates eligible for the Nobel Peace Prize are those persons or organizations nominated by qualified individuals, see above. A nomination for yourself will not be taken into consideration.

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Farmboy: I voted for Obama twice, my disapproval is only related to his actions supporting war or non-peaceful practices. The US is still fighting or supporting war in several countries, plus he supports drone assassinations in countries we are NOT officially at war with. Please explain how those actions are qualifications of the Nobel peace prize? From my view point, the citizens who support article nine have 69 years of peace on their side. Do you really believe Obama actions have been better than that?

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Let's be clear here! Japan's pacifism was not self-imposed. It was imposed on Japan after their failed attempt at imperial rule of Asia, which is something they should never be forgiven for. Nobel peace prize? Seriously? They should still be paying the piper for what they did at the start of last century. If someone kills a person they get 25 years to life in jail. Is 70 years enough for the mass-murder of millions?

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Nope. I don't think this should even be considered as a nomination. IMO there has to be active steps and positive actions in order to get the peace prize....just not going to war for a couple of decades doesn't really make the cut. But I'll let the Kira Kira eyed housewife have her dream.

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Ha ha, don't think it was "thanks to Article 9 that Japan has never been in a war for over 69 years".

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Sorry. More than half of all Japanese voters marched out in 2012 to vote for:

-Shinzo (Utsukushii Kuni) Abe's nationalism-loving and Constitution-trashing LDP,

-The so-called "peace party" New Komeito (you know, the ones who in a bid to cling to power, sheepishly went along with the ridiculous claim that the "No War Constitution Clause...Actually Does Allow For War")

-Or Shintaro Ishihara's rabidly pro-revisionist, pro-conflict, and anti-foreigner Japan Restoration Party.

Thus, in light of this sad yet indisputable FACT, the Japanese people by and large DO NOT deserve anything even remotely connected to a "Peace Prize."

Peace Prize...You've got to be kidding me, right?!

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Japan's pacifism was not self-imposed

Japan accepted it, and has maintained it for 7 decades. It takes a great deal of willpower and determination to maintain something so long. There were many times when Japan could have been involved in wars, but didn't. .

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July 13th, 2014 4:55 PM< Going with the spur-of-the -moment idea that I would be better off doing anything to indicate my opposition to Mr.Abe-initiated reinterpretation of article 9 than twiddling my thumbs just complaining, I jumped on the pro-pacifist constitution bandwagon, ending up signing my name with the online petition site for getting the Japanese people nominated as the receipent of the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize. Come to think of it, I have come around to giving it second thoughts; Japan had had the last 69 years war-free not because the Japanese people have put conscious efforts into preventing Japan from going to war to live up to the spirit of pacifism, but rather because Japan has been allowed to give itself up exclusively to developing nd boosting the national economy, particularly up to the early 1990s with the Soviet bloc collapsing under its own weight. We have had the almost 70 years in peace with the US forces stationed on Okinawa, which functioned as the supply base for the Korean war, the Vietnam war, the Iraq war, with South Korea serving as the front-line military base targeted against North Korea and China. We should not get this out of our minds, that the Japanese economy, starting from scratch soon after the war,got back on its feet on the basis of the extra demand for Japanese products created by the Korean war, that is, the Japanese economy was turned arfound b y the war-generated military demand. We have got our hands dirty getting where we are, depending upon sacrifices made by fellow Asians, bearing witness to the fact that we do not have our hands clean enough to claim that we have lived up to the spirit of pacifism, as represented by the constitution. But to give the kira-kira-eyed hosewife the benefit of doubt, I do hope the petition campaighn goes a long way toward getting the international community "Articl 9"-minded enough to learn that Japanese self-defense forces are deprived of the right of belligerece. How come they can excercise the right to collective self defense?

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@ Farmboy - Thank you for your information about qualification for the prize. Are you aware that Obama won the prize literally for giving just a couple of speeches? Does that qualify him?

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The public, the people all over the world have no power or authority to decide for the noble prize, it is a particular group under the influence of political corporations, they are judges and jurors so they should put it in their own pockets.

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More than half of all Japanese voters marched out in 2012 to vote for....

The LDP took 43% of votes cast, Komeito 1.4% and Nippon Ishinnokai 11.6%, totalling 56% of the vote. That is not 56% of all Japanese voters, since only 59.32% (the lowest turnout ever, 10 points lower than the previous election) of all those eligible to vote bothered to march out at all. (As to why people didn't vote, it could have been apathy, it could have been that with the fall of the JDP, there was no one to vote for.)

I agree with you that it's sad and indisputable that not enough people went out to vote, but it is not a sad yet indisputable FACT that the country voted gleefully and en masse for Abe's trigger-happy policies. As far as I recall, most people I spoke to at the time took the LDP slogan 日本を、取り戻す (Nihon wo torimodosu) to mean either a return to an economically robust Japan or, for the more cynical, simply that the LDP wanted to be the top party again. I don't recall anyone suggesting it might mean a return to a militarily strong Japan.

The reason the LDP got such a huge proportion of seats compared to the number of votes is the unconstitutional weighting of the vote in favour of rural areas, where the LDP has traditionally been strong. Not that the LDP worries too much about what's constitutional. It cannot be said that what the Japanese people by and large think is reflected in the results of the last election.

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Personally, I am hoping Edward Snowden will be awarded the Nobel Prize for his work in uncovering the truly massive global surveillance undertaken by the sad post-911 country called America.

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You can't help but laugh at the sense of timing.. They want a peace prize in one hand and a gun in the other. I sincerely hope they don't get it. The last thing Japan needs is another boost to its ego, much less from the international community.

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Firat, Nominator has to qualify as a nominator. There are so many people in the world. Whether you liked Obama or not, Obama had nominator who qualified as the nominator.

Qualified Nominators

According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

Members of national assemblies and governments of states

Members of international courts

University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes

Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Board members of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1

Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee

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Then nominees has to qualify as nominee. Criteria does not include people who did not kill or people who stayed peacefully without violence. Also people can not nominate himself/herself. There are too many people/organizations which try to nominate. In 2012, EU received, as the nominator qualified as a nominator. EU is not people.

Candidacy Criteria

The candidates eligible for the Nobel Peace Prize are those persons or organizations nominated by qualified individuals, see above. A nomination for yourself will not be taken into consideration.

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The power of Japan = article 9.

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Sorry, but no way. Japan's pacifist constitution was written and imposed by the USA to deter a very aggressive, violent country that committed genocide from once again taking that path. I'd give it posthumously to MacArthur before I have it to Japan.****

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I think it's a great idea but the Nobel Prize Committee will never go for it. As important as Japanese pacifism is to regional security (Abe's trip to North Korea, for example), the more inflammatory message sent by Yasukuni shrine visits will likely be enough to keep the Japanese out of the running. Obama won the prize in 2008 after doing nothing. The Nobel Committee loves to stay news-worthy, and giving the award to the Japanese will put them out of line with the media's false perception that Japan is turning more conservative, right-wing and militaristic.

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Nope, the constitution was imposed on Japan by an invading country.

Now, if the Japanese were to write their own constitution that would be a different story.

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Campaigners push for pacifist Japanese people to win Nobel Peace Prize

Ha ha ha

Nice one!

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In referring to WWII and more recent history, a more relavent comparison to Japan is Germany, which set a higher bar in showing remorse to its brutal war crimes and stay pacifist.

The Federal Republic of Germany exports weapons and knowingly hosted US nukes along its border with the East while post-war Japan didn't until rise of the second Abe cabinet,. and 11 guys are giving this comment a thumbs up, goes to show it's not only the Japanese who revise history.

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If they'd tried a few years ago their chances would have been much better, but with Abe's policies & view on world history I'd say there's not a chance Nobel will admit that.

And the article says residents, not citizens...was that a mistake? Will I get a share of the USD1m prize then? ^^

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Very interesting, if pacifist constitution or people is ever worthy of the peace prize, it should be awarded to the USA, shouldn't it? It was the USA that invented the pacifist Japan and keeps it at bay, USA USA ...

then why is the USA been suggesting that Japan takes care of its own defenses lately

Of all the utter nonsense. Ummmm. No. Stand in line behind countries like Monoco, Swtizerland, Iceland, Costa Rica and Liechtenstein before even DREAMING such a thing. You dont have wars with your neighbors and get the Nobel Peace Prize 70 years later. And the reason that Japan has not had any wars has nothing to do with its citizenery at all. It is due to what happened 70 years ago. It was not implememted of its own free will, but was a policy dictated to it. And now you have Abe trying to change the constitution? Um, no. It is a waste of time.

Let's be clear here! Japan's pacifism was not self-imposed. It was imposed on Japan after their failed attempt at imperial rule of Asia, which is something they should never be forgiven for. Nobel peace prize? Seriously? They should still be paying the piper for what they did at the start of last century. If someone kills a person they get 25 years to life in jail. Is 70 years enough for the mass-murder of millions?

Um..no, SCAP Douglas Macarthur admits that it was Japanese Prime Minister Kijūrō Shidehara who suggested Article 9 But that's OK, JT is no stranger to shortsighted J-bashers. By the time you read this very post, it will have multiple thumbs down while their posts will have even more thumbs up.

I guess since various other nations have a much more pacifist history than Japan (Switzerland, Monaco etc.) the argument could be made that Japan went from one the most aggressive, brutal and inhumane nations to one of the most peaceful in a few years.

I guess some 70 years ago is only a few years back, which I guess is why the Chinese and Koreans who weren't even born then are still angry

I am to have 20 thumbs down for this post by Monday evening Japan time. Some say that's wishful thinking but I have faith in the great number of J-bashers and anti-intellectuals who surf JT.

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Pacifist can be dangerous. Don't dream this is a perfect world.

Some decades ago Soviet Union attacked Afghanistan, then left Afghanistan, and CIA left Afghanistan too, no one was watching Afghanistan, pacifists were happy, then what happened?

Peace? No. Not at all. Vacuum of Power happened.

Then bad guys used it as the staging area for the attack on USA which started "War on Terror".

Be careful for what you demand.

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Campaigners push for pacifist Japanese people to win Nobel Peace Prize

And the winner for the Utter Nonsense award goes to the Campaigners who are pushing this idea. There are many more people who deserve to win this award.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9603849/Nobel-Peace-Prize-the-ten-most-controversial-winners.html

Yes the EU and President Obama won theirs, but did they deserve it?

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Monaco hasn't had an army since the 17th century when it refused to join the arms race. Monaco gets the peace prize before Japan which has the world's 7th largest army.

Wow, if only this was true and not so much hogwash. Did you get your information from their tourist bureau, or perhaps Listverse?

Because

1) it does have a military

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Monaco

Great job comparing the 2nd smallest country in the world with a country of 130,000,000 people that gets threatened on a regular basis by two of heavily militarized neighbours.

2) it is also under the protection of France. Perhaps you've heard of it - the country that encompasses the fishing village / casino site called Monaco, a country with 65,000,000 (half that of Japan) yet has a bigger military than Japan and weaponry like an aircraft carrier and nuclear missiles.

Also pretty sure other countries like Italy would assist if some Bond villain hatched a plot to steal all of the mega-yachts in La Condamine and hold their owners hostage. (If they're actually in the country, and not abroad, which is all of a half day hike from any point in Monaco)

Your argument, no sense does it make. Try harder.

And if you are going to idolize Mr. Samuel Beckett, you might keep in mind that he played an active role in WW2, fighting defensively against tyrants (Nazi Germany and French collaborators). Do you deny the same right to this country?

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The naiveté of absolute pacifism is astonishing. In an era of nationalism rising and growth oriented dictatorships such unrealities are dangerous

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@Mike Will

True. Comparing Tibet with Switzerland.

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So I looked up Naomi Takasu, the lady who came with the original idea of Article 9 being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, and is now campaigning for Japan's people as a whole to win the thing since Article 9 has been ruled ineligible. She looks almost exactly like the stereotypical image of a well-meaning but somewhat naive Japanese housewife type. She's 37 years old, so somebody who came of age in the 1990s but apparently wasn't paying much attention in 2003 when Japan heartily endorsed U.S. "war president" George W. Bush's plan to take out Iraq's government with shock and awe.

Now it's true, except for a few minesweepers in the Korean War and a few non-combat infrastructure builders in Iraq, Japanese soldiers have not been involved in overseas wars since the 1940s. But Japan's non-involvement in the Korean War had nothing to do with pacifist peaceniks in a country that had been waging a fanatical battle for territorial supremacy in Asia just a few years earlier. Japan's soldiers weren't pressed into action in Korea because 1) their presence on the Korean Peninsula in battle would have started World War III, with the USSR dropping nuclear bombs on Japan in retaliation, and 2) South Korean soldiers fighting against North Koreans would have turned right around and started firing at any Japanese soldiers who had been deployed as part of the United Nations "police action." So the Japanese had to be kept out for some very practical reasons.

Finally, Japan's people undoubtedly profited from the nearby conflicts in Korea and then Vietnam in the 1960s (Japanese PM Yoshida actually referred to the former as a "gift from the gods" for Japan's moribund postwar economy--thank you, war procurement orders). And PM Koizumi's decision in the 2000s to ingratiate himself with George W. Bush, of all people, kind of discredited completely as far as I'm concerned any notion of the Japanese people collectively as a whole being a peace-loving people.

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The official English translation] of the article 9 is:

ARTICLE 9. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized

GHQ did not want but SCAP wanted. Then Japanese Govt wanted to include. I notice some comment writers mention Article 9 differently than Article 9 we know, so I copied official English version. In past, there were movement to amend this Article 9 but failed each time. So, clever Kitaoka influenced Abe to use re-interpretation, and forget to try to amending. (shin-kaishaku)

Refer WikiPedia Article 9 Japanese Constitiion. Japanese version has plenty detail on Interpretation and new interpretation beside history of article . USA wanted Japan to change constitution at Korean War time, PM Shigeru Yoshida requested and demanded to have opposition movement to Japan Socialist Party.

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They're trying to get the constitution recognized by the Nobel committee, to give it that extra protection of national pride. If it had a Nobel Prize, it would be much harder for a hawk, like Abe, to change it.

At least that's the thinking behind this.

I appreciate their efforts but I think they should focus their attentions on directly influencing the people of Japan, rather than trying to do it indirectly via Oslo.

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I am afraid whatever this grioup present to Nobel Committee will not be in the short list to be discussed to be candidates of nominees. Probably in a paper shredder. Too many requests from all over in the world including terrorists. The rule says you can not nominate yourself. Are the promoters non-Japanese to nominate entire Japanese?

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You know what, I actually think this a validate candidate for the award. Perhaps the best possible candidate and certain winner. Yes, 128 million people have taken a stance and upheld peace and non agression! I love it! I love the Japanese people and I am sorry about the recent changes. Although I can seee Abe's point I think the Japanese should maintain what they have upheld for so long. A message to us all... Well done Japan, you get my vote!

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@pablo944JUL. 14, 2014 - 09:50PM JST

You know what, I actually think this a validate candidate for the award. Perhaps the best possible candidate and certain winner. Yes, 128 million people have taken a stance and upheld peace and non agression! I love it! I love the Japanese people and I am sorry about the recent changes. Although I can seee Abe's point I think the Japanese should maintain what they have upheld for so long. A message to us all... Well done Japan, you get my vote!

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Oh! You are one of Nobel Peace Prize Committee member !

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Of course Toshiko!!

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Call it whatever you want, army, peace keeping force, self-defense force, whatever but Japan's got the 6th largest military budget in the world.

Additionally, the nation reserves the right to defend itself. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but the definition of pacifism is the belief that it is wrong to settle disputes with war or violence. If attacked, Japan can and should defend itself, and would be within it's constitutional rights to do so. Having said that, how does that make them pacifists?

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Although I agree that giving the award to them would be a joke, it would also be a huge slap in the face to Abe, which would be nice.

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