It was definately un easy feeling!!
Japan caused the Sino japanese war and they show no remorse of themselves but pretending as victims? Do you believe the so called pushing seven nuclear armed countries was for peace? If Japan got the nuclear weapons and never defeated in WW2,she will behaves as arrogance as those nuclear big five...
"How about a Nanking museum or Korean Colonial rule exhibit? Dedicated to all those who have suffered at the hands of the Japanese"
The significance of Hiroshima goes beyond simple nationalism, it signifies the first time in history that mankind used a weapon of mass destruction on it's own kind, and it cast a lingering fear for the next 50 years or so throughout the cold war. People from all over the world come to this place to pray that mankind does not repeat this, and God bless us we haven't. It is not a place to honor just Japanese victims.
Nor is it a place to foment hatred towards those who used the bomb.
It was definately un easy feeling!! Japan caused the Sino japanese war and they show no remorse of themselves but pretending as victims? Do you believe the so called pushing seven nuclear armed countries was for peace? If Japan got the nuclear weapons and never defeated in WW2,she will behaves as arrogance as those nuclear big five...
I think this is a very progressive and nice gesture. I have the same question as Lips, why Rjd, (and this is not a poke whatsoever) do you feel uneasy about it?
For all the Black Van Men out there: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg
In light of this, China, although very imperfect by any standards and its own admissions, towers above this barbarism.
The city of Hiroshima has urged seven nuclear-armed nations and North Korea to attend the ceremony since 1998, of which Russia, India and Pakistan have attended it.
Technically, I think the final word could be eliminated and the sentence would still be valid. No?
I think the anti-J pro-CCP nationalist here ought to adhere to the
current Chinese Govt policy of amity between China and Japan, and
leave their hatred out of the hiroshima memorial, which actually
has little to do with China. The Chinese consul who is attending
is doing so as a member of a country which maintains nuclear weapons.
It has nothing to do with WWII.
I think this is a good gesture for Sino-Japanese relations. I'm not sure if any Japanese official has attedned any sort of ceremony in China to commemorate the victims of Najing but they certainly should. It's been 60 years guys, Japan inflicted pain all over asia and in the end they got the bomb which I would say along with the Tokyo fie bombings pretty much means no one won and everyone payed dearly.
The political meanings of hiroshima.... that was a hard lesson for human world to learn. For China,the soviet union now russia... the only method to avoid a foreign invasions and huge casualties of war is the knowledges to build sustantial nuclear arsenals ready to use and let those potential adversary to understand the consequences of reckless! The imperial Japan and nazi Germany miscalculating the cost of an unwinable war was the cause of why nuclear weapons is necessary for China and Russia. Thats why the majority of Chinese people never against the Chinese govenment policy of making nuclear weapons! It was costly but totally legitimate! Even small countries like israel whose populations suffered the holocausts supporting their country to make nuclear weapons. And thats why it was unappropiate for Japan to lecture us thw abolishment of nuclear weapons, they were not qualified to do this!
If Japan never invaded China, there was no necessary to make nuclear weapons for China. Japan has committed a mistake that was never recoverable and no matter how many times of apologies, trust was broken and thats why the calls for no nuclear weapons was never taken seriously. In fact China even wont abolish mines or cluster bombbs these conventional weapons,this is what necessary to tell the Japanese public straight forward by the Chinese consul! It was definately nothing to do with hatred and I doubt wether it was necessary, it was nothing deserved to be trusted again except the triggar.
Yes, it's obvious to all that China has a nuclear arsenal in order to act as a strategic deterrent to the imminent Japanese invasion and Japan's huge nuclear force. Thanks reddragonguy for that well-thought and rational post.
People from all over the world come to this place to pray that mankind does not repeat this, and God bless us we haven't. It is not a place to honor just Japanese victims. Nor is it a place to foment hatred towards those who used the bomb.
I've been to the museum twice and I thought it was pretty fair in its presentation. The yearly ceremony is another story, tho...
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lipscombe at 10:32 AM JST - 23rd July
please explain why, I'd like to hear it
reddragonguy at 10:40 AM JST - 23rd July
It was definately un easy feeling!! Japan caused the Sino japanese war and they show no remorse of themselves but pretending as victims? Do you believe the so called pushing seven nuclear armed countries was for peace? If Japan got the nuclear weapons and never defeated in WW2,she will behaves as arrogance as those nuclear big five...
OssanULTRA at 10:48 AM JST - 23rd July
"How about a Nanking museum or Korean Colonial rule exhibit? Dedicated to all those who have suffered at the hands of the Japanese"
The significance of Hiroshima goes beyond simple nationalism, it signifies the first time in history that mankind used a weapon of mass destruction on it's own kind, and it cast a lingering fear for the next 50 years or so throughout the cold war. People from all over the world come to this place to pray that mankind does not repeat this, and God bless us we haven't. It is not a place to honor just Japanese victims. Nor is it a place to foment hatred towards those who used the bomb.
lipscombe at 10:54 AM JST - 23rd July
always nice to hear the Chinese perspective
lipscombe at 10:55 AM JST - 23rd July
didnt we have this discussion a feq days ago. I seem to remeber you were against Fujuda meeting Hu in Beijing. where's the love? where's the luuuurve?
Xennon at 02:05 PM JST - 23rd July
I think this is a very progressive and nice gesture. I have the same question as Lips, why Rjd, (and this is not a poke whatsoever) do you feel uneasy about it?
Lips,
HA!!! ROFLCOPTERS. you got a smile out of me
LIBERTAS at 08:13 PM JST - 23rd July
For all the Black Van Men out there: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg In light of this, China, although very imperfect by any standards and its own admissions, towers above this barbarism.
borscht at 08:35 PM JST - 23rd July
Modeditors,
Technically, I think the final word could be eliminated and the sentence would still be valid. No?
OssanULTRA at 11:42 PM JST - 23rd July
I think the anti-J pro-CCP nationalist here ought to adhere to the current Chinese Govt policy of amity between China and Japan, and leave their hatred out of the hiroshima memorial, which actually has little to do with China. The Chinese consul who is attending is doing so as a member of a country which maintains nuclear weapons. It has nothing to do with WWII.
usaexpat at 11:44 PM JST - 23rd July
I think this is a good gesture for Sino-Japanese relations. I'm not sure if any Japanese official has attedned any sort of ceremony in China to commemorate the victims of Najing but they certainly should. It's been 60 years guys, Japan inflicted pain all over asia and in the end they got the bomb which I would say along with the Tokyo fie bombings pretty much means no one won and everyone payed dearly.
reddragonguy at 09:58 AM JST - 24th July
The political meanings of hiroshima.... that was a hard lesson for human world to learn. For China,the soviet union now russia... the only method to avoid a foreign invasions and huge casualties of war is the knowledges to build sustantial nuclear arsenals ready to use and let those potential adversary to understand the consequences of reckless! The imperial Japan and nazi Germany miscalculating the cost of an unwinable war was the cause of why nuclear weapons is necessary for China and Russia. Thats why the majority of Chinese people never against the Chinese govenment policy of making nuclear weapons! It was costly but totally legitimate! Even small countries like israel whose populations suffered the holocausts supporting their country to make nuclear weapons. And thats why it was unappropiate for Japan to lecture us thw abolishment of nuclear weapons, they were not qualified to do this!
reddragonguy at 10:04 AM JST - 24th July
If Japan never invaded China, there was no necessary to make nuclear weapons for China. Japan has committed a mistake that was never recoverable and no matter how many times of apologies, trust was broken and thats why the calls for no nuclear weapons was never taken seriously. In fact China even wont abolish mines or cluster bombbs these conventional weapons,this is what necessary to tell the Japanese public straight forward by the Chinese consul! It was definately nothing to do with hatred and I doubt wether it was necessary, it was nothing deserved to be trusted again except the triggar.
UnagiDon at 10:10 AM JST - 24th July
Yes, it's obvious to all that China has a nuclear arsenal in order to act as a strategic deterrent to the imminent Japanese invasion and Japan's huge nuclear force. Thanks reddragonguy for that well-thought and rational post.
JoeBigs at 10:17 AM JST - 24th July
Dude that was....well ah I at a loss for words.....Ah WHAT?!
SuperLib at 08:18 PM JST - 24th July
I've been to the museum twice and I thought it was pretty fair in its presentation. The yearly ceremony is another story, tho...
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