Demonstrators challenge gov't to build nuclear plant in Tokyo

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  • -11

    some14some

    Ishihara may accept their challenge anytime. Demonstrations/protests (large or small) do not work in Nippon, move on.

  • 5

    alladin

    They should challenge the Japanese government to build a reactor close to the Prime Ministers residence.

  • 6

    gyouza

    They should challenge the Japanese government to build a reactor close to the Prime Ministers residence.

    No one stays there longer than a year, so risk is low enough to consider as a possibility!

    Pretty poor show out though, "dozens" of demonstrators?

  • 2

    grammefriday

    go ahead and build it... japans power isnt coming from any other source in the near future

  • 8

    Serrano

    How about building it on the grounds of the Imperial Palace? Plenty of space there.

  • 2

    tkoind2

    Agreed, these demonstrations will amount to very little. The government has clearly stated their intentions. The only way to effect change in Japan is to go after comprehensive political change. Something the people of Japan show very little interest in doing, no matter how bad things get.

  • -2

    JapanGal

    Build it on reclaimed land in Tokyo Bay

  • 0

    Jared Norman

    maybe 23 new reactors should be built 1 for each ward of Tokyo. We should do the same for every major city in the states, downtown areas will be the best location.

  • 0

    Jared Norman

    Im sure the next time i go to visit Shibuya the reactor will be a rather pretty tourist attraction. My mom wants to meet me and my girlfriend in tokyo sometime so maybe i can bring her there instead of Asakusa.

  • 3

    Ivan Coughanoffalot

    Didn't that corrupt old gimp Ishihara already state he's going to do this?

  • 3

    Christina O'Neill

    Who is the proffessor who said people who smile , dont get effected by radiation? I dont see anybody laughing over Fukushima. if the statement is true my question would be, did he get his qualifications out of a lucky bag?

  • 6

    Piltdown Man

    I think the protesters are pursuing a very clever strategy here. It's a shame, though, that with over 13 million people in the greater Tokyo area, they end up rallying only 50 people to engage in demonstrations.

    It takes a lot more than nuclear meltdown and potential long-term health issues to spur people here to action. Historically, there have been instances where Japan's population was spurred to action, but only in the face of utter destruction of foreign invasion.

  • 0

    kitsuki14

    " *a Fukushima Medical University professor who reportedly said that radiation does not affect people who smile. *"

    Whahahat ... seriously?! thats not funny at all!!

  • 2

    Utrack

    At least those 50 protestors at making Headlines, they know a NPP in Tokyo Metropolitan areas isn't the way to go. It's hard enough to dispose of the household radioactive waste currently being stored at the incineration facilities in the Tokyo Metropolitian areas.

  • 1

    Utrack

    Burying of radioactive household waste challenging

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/26_03.html

    Radioactive ash is a big problem it seems.

  • 3

    Piltdown Man

    @Utrack

    At least those 50 protestors at making Headlines

    I agree fully, and appreciate your "glass half full" take on the matter. I certainly do not intend to disparage JT for reporting this, or the 50 demonstrators who showed enough concern to take positive action. Job well done to both.

  • 3

    globalwatcher

    JapanGalSep. 26, 2011 - 09:13AM JST

    Build it on reclaimed land in Tokyo Bay

    I understand you have been proNuke. Tokyo Bay is the worst place to build it as all THREE PLATES collide there. You are just joking, right, JapanGal? Hope so.

  • 0

    IronBeard

    Childish approach.

    Believing something is safe does not mean it is infallable, and you want to keep any risks as small as possible. Building a nuclear powerplant next to Tokyo would be like placing a baby's crib next to a stove. Even if the stove is pretty safe, it's just an unnecessary risk.

    Also, ridiculing people and name-calling (regardless of how inept those people may be) will just undermine your stance.

  • 2

    JapanGal

    Of course I am... :-)

  • 0

    Jared Norman

    Tokyo bay is the best place to build the reactor we can test the safety.

  • 0

    gogogo

    Are you kidding, these people are stupid... I'm moving out of tokyo if something like this is built

  • -1

    iceshoecream

    Yep! Just like IronBeard said, a childish approach. If they so want to live around nuclear plant, why don't they just move around any them? They've got plenty of choices.

  • 3

    JapanGal

    And who thought the Japanese could not be sarcastic?

  • -1

    gaijinfo

    They should raze these protesters houses to build wind farms.

  • 5

    Ramzel

    Whilst I agree that we have to phase out nuclear power in the future, for now there are no viable alternatives. All the "clean" energy sources are not efficient enough as of today. If we think back to 3/11 there were several gas/coal/oil plants/refineries/storage facilities that blew up on the spot... remember that? I believe it was around 3-4. If we relied on these "dirty" facilities more, then 1) Air & water pollution would be much higher and 2) those plants would go up in flames every time there is a strong earth quake. The ridiculous proposal by that Italian demonstrator is just not thought through. Yes, nuclear power is not 100% safe, but it is safer and much more efficient than anything else that we have for now. (look at the air/water pollution in China due to coal burning).

  • 2

    Tigerta9

    Why is this always called the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl? This is the worst nuclear disaster period and if we only knew all the facts about it.

  • 0

    Jared Norman

    Chernobyl was worst because their was no systems shield

  • 0

    Tigerta9

    Let's see what kind of fish start turning up in fishing nets off the coast...noveau sushi anyone? Besides this thing still ain't over

  • 3

    JapanGal

    Iyou build on reclaimed land and a big earthquake comes, the plant will sink due to liquification, anndthen you would not have to worry about it.

  • 2

    Tigerta9

    JapanGal might actually be on to something...

  • 4

    Serrano

    I believe JapanGal IS on to something!

  • 1

    Arthur Dumbolov

    That's kinda creepy sarcasm (°_°¡)...

  • -2

    cloa513

    No problem. Develop the Liquid Thorium Fuel Reactor and build it in Tokyo.

  • 1

    Aakmal999

    ask Prime Minister Office moved to nuclear plant easy for them repair if nuclear plant broken like Fukushima.

  • 3

    zichi

    Thorium reactors are also dangerous, so better not to build any new reactors and shut down the present ones as soon as possible.

  • 0

    Larry Woodworth

    Ignoring the fact that nuclear plants are intentionally built AWAY from population centers, there's also the question of whether Tokyo harbor has enough flow with the tides to ensure cool water is available at a prospective location. These people are chanting for something they know will never happen. They'd have just as much luck chanting to force the P.M. to stay in office for at least 2 years.

  • 0

    kurisupisu

    Radioactive materials have a habit of finding their way into the environment.

    That is why the locations are usually as remote as possible

  • 0

    warnerbro

    The professor who said radiation doesn't harm smiling people is Yamashita Shunichi 山下俊一. He was appointed an adviser to Fukushima Prefecture on radiation and Vice President of Fukushima Medical University. Think of the young medical minds he'll destroy. He didn't "reportedly" say it. He said it. You can find him saying it on videos all over the internet. It wasn't just a momentary mistake. He also said lots of other idiotic things.

  • 0

    Dotakun

    hurray for japanese finally voicing their opinions!

  • 0

    Ivan Coughanoffalot

    Fukushima Medical University professor who reportedly said that radiation does not affect people who smile.

    Who is this buffoon? Name him, and let the university strip him of his title. Should we also carry a pomander to ward off the plague?

  • 1

    beangry

    Christina O'neill and Ivan among others@

    "AILEEN MIOKO SMITH: Yes, we’re very concerned that a health study is starting at the end of this month. This is concerning the effects of the Fukushima residents, on the prefectural citizens. It’s headed by a Dr. Shunichi Yamashita, who’s at the Atomic Bomb Research Institute. He’s the radiological health safety risk management adviser for the prefecture. He’s widely shown on national TV. He speaks widely in the prefecture, always saying there’s absolutely no concern with the levels of radiation in Fukushima. He says that mothers, even mothers exposed to 100 millisieverts, pregnant mothers, will not have any effect, health effect. Remember the number 100. Compared to that, the Soviet Union required a mandatory evacuation during Chernobyl at five millisieverts. This doctor is quoted as saying, "The effects of radiation do not come to people that are happy and laughing. They come to people that are weak-spirited, that brood and fret." This is a direct quote. And he’s heading the study. And so, the citizens in Fukushima are very concerned." see democracynow.org, June 10th I think.

    Plenty of interviews in YouTube of this guy sayingthe same.

  • 1

    beangry

    Here is the link http://www.democracynow.org/2011/6/10/asjapannuclearcrisisworsens_citizen

  • 1

    beangry

    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=JP#/results?q=Shunichi%20Yamashita

    As this link shows, the article is correct and shows this doctor really did say 100mSv doesn't harm pregnant women etc. See for yourselves. I do not know why they didn't name him in the article, though.

  • 0

    Mahiru Shiratori

    Where are those protesters from? If they are from Fukushima, they must be serious. If they are from Tokyo, they are a bunch of hypocrite because they know the government will not build nuke plants in Tokyo, or maybe they are just temporary residents. If the government decided to build nuke plants there, I'm sure they would go protest "NO PLANTS IN TOKYO!!!" or leave Tokyo. And one more thing for Tokyo residents, please donate your Geiger counters to the people in Fukushima. It used to be like Y20,000, but after Tokyo residents started buying up those, prices went up to Y50,000~100,000. People in Fukushima cannot buy those because they are out of stock and too pricy.

  • 0

    Clinton Meskanen

    http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2011/08/radiation-expert-to-fukushima-dont-worry-be-happy/

    there you go.. anything else is a lie.......

  • 0

    Clinton Meskanen

    oh btw... stanford uni... go shill that....

  • -1

    Konsta

    Jared NormanSep. 26, 2011 - 12:29PM JST Chernobyl was worst because their was no systems shield

    No. It is not true any more. Fukushima Daiichi is already officially rated as bad as Chernobyl, and unlike Chernobyl, which was buried, Fukushima is still leaking. If things will continue like they are, Fukushima will be rated more dangerous than Chernobyl. I saw figures over the net that estimate Fukushima's health impact to be worse than that of Chernobyl, already.

  • -1

    Elbuda Mexicano

    I think these protests are very positive! I am very happy the people of Japan are starting to stand up for their rights!

  • 0

    WilliB

    The government should build a couple of giant mindmills in Tokyo, preferable close to the these protesters. That should make everybody happy.

  • -1

    Acjama

    Jared NormanSep. 26, 2011 - 12:29PM JST Chernobyl was worst because their was no systems shield

    I have no idea what "systems shield" might be, but Chernobyl actually had five layers of effective security systems, all independent of each other - and all shut down for the duration of the tests that ended up badly. Tepco's Daiichi went boom-boom-boom under routine operations when the predictable tsunami came. Chernobyl had a bad juju core, but Tepco's incompetence is more than a match for that.

    Also, Chernobyl was completely covered in six months. Tepco has done nothing in six months, save a few powerpoint slides. That is why Tepco's Daiichi will be worse than Chernobyl.

  • 2

    Paul Arenson

    Yamashita is from Nagasaki. the article is wrong he was appointed an advisor to Fukushima, as some readers have said. This video link, imbedded in the last comment of the following article, has an English translation of the infamous Yamashia.

    http://moshimoshimo.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/a-wonderful-eirework-display-turn-to-sad-news-mayor-apologized-for-cancellation-of-using-a-firework-made-in-fukushima/

    To the person who said that if the protesters are not from Fukushima they are hypocrites, this makes no sense. Anti nuclear forces are not divided. . At our demonstrations around Japan, Fukushima and non Fukushima people are united in saying the govt has long abused people in rural areas, treating them like crap and bribing them with development funds to build what they dare not build in big cities. Yamashita is part of this criminal conspiracy to keep people in the dark. Contrast him with radiologist Kodama of Todai, whose video at the Diet accusing the govt of criminal negligence regarding internal radiation went viral on you tube, after removed from th Diet TV site itself. Kodama is still defying govt regulations as he goes to Fukushima every weekend to help remove radioactive soil that the govt does not technically allow to be done and that the govt say is no threat, which Kodama says is untrue.

  • 0

    Mahiru Shiratori

    "Chernoby was the worst!" "No! No! No! Fukushima is worse than Chernoby because..." "No! No! No! Chernoby was worse than Fukushima because..."

    I often hear those argument. What is the point which is worse or less worse???

  • 1

    magical_us

    Could everyone please stop calling nuklear power safe. Its neither safe, clean nor cheap. Everyone still believing the fairy-tale-telling nuke lobby should go to Fukushima and help cleaning up the mess.

  • 0

    kadenotoko

    @Ramzel, just try to think of the destruction this nukes are causing us right now here in the Kanto area. It's true that the current alternative energy we have are not as efficient as what the nukes can give but the thing is, nobody gave so much attention to prosper those clean energy way back then because of political interest. But after this incident, lots of private companies are now making their moves to promote and build more alternative sources of energy. A lot of studies have been already made even before 3-11 but all of them were just ignored then. Now is the time for those researches to become reality. And besides nukes have lots of hidden cost that people just couldn't see.

  • 1

    Nessie

    Yamashita is part of this criminal conspiracy to keep people in the dark.

    Yeah, who knew they were building a nuke plant?

    sarcasm
    
  • 1

    Paul Arenson

    keep them in the dark about the effects of radiation, the culpability of METI and Toden, the risks involved in staying in high radiation areas or eating contaminated food......

  • 1

    Konsta

    Mahiru ShiratoriSep. 26, 2011 - 10:50PM JST

    "Chernoby was the worst!" "No! No! No! Fukushima is worse than Chernoby because..." "No! No! No! Chernoby was worse than Fukushima because..."

    I often hear those argument. What is the point which is worse or less worse???

    You don't see the point? I can tell.

    There is no "much point". The argue goes on the subconscious level:

    -Anyway, Chernobyl was worst because their was ... (Meaning, thus, we have an excuse for whatever point we try to defend. )

    -No, Fukushima is as bad... (Meaning, no, you don't have an excuse, so find something else).

    Isn't it transparent? It is a classical "You are a fool, no, you are a fool yourself" game. Fun to play and works well on forums.

    Returning to the article, a would like to know why Japanese public under the guidance of the Italian teacher protests in English? Shouldn't they protest in Japanese? Or, their aims are totally different and they are trying to bring international public to intervene?

  • 2

    miyazawa3

    Who is that Italian teacher...? .Ka e re..

  • 1

    kurisupisu

    What is still spewing out of Fukushima?

    We don't know because for all intents and purposes the reporting on Fukushima is a fraction of what it was. However........ there is radioactive steam coming out of the ground AWAY from the reactors -what does that suggest?

    And the talk about cold shutdown?

    How is it possible to 'shutdown' radioactive material that is no longer within a nuclear plant's system?

    And why is it forbidden for the press to speak with the workers at the plants?

    Any 'unofficial' commentary from the workers is suppressed.I have yet to see a plant worker interviewed by NHK or by any Japanese media to date.

  • 0

    mike23thurgood

    Even as a dare I wouldn't recommend that a nuclear power reactor be built in the middle of London, New York, Johannesburg or Cape Town!

    The idea of intrinsic nuclear safety for Gen.IV reactors is a serious issue, not just because of the highly emotive reactions which arise from people opposed to nuclear power, but the truth is that no sensible professional nuclear physicist or engineer these days want their reactors to lead to such incidents as occurred at Chernobyl and, to a lesser extent, Fukushima Daiichi.

    Nuclear reactors should only be constructed in countries with stable political systems. Typical Middle East and North African countries are still in turmoil, even those where popular uprisings have led to substantive changes - they don't become stable political entities in a few months.

    But there remains a terrible consideration in the background: the more countries that adopt nuclear power so is there ever greater need for international political stability. Will nuclear power have the unforseen effect of achieving this state?

  • 0

    WilliB

    Acjama:

    " I have no idea what "systems shield" might be, but Chernobyl actually had five layers of effective security systems, all independent of each other - and all shut down for the duration of the tests that ended up badly. Tepco's Daiichi went boom-boom-boom under routine operations when the predictable tsunami came. Chernobyl had a bad juju core, but Tepco's incompetence is more than a match for that. Also, Chernobyl was completely covered in six months. Tepco has done nothing in six months, save a few powerpoint slides. That is why Tepco's Daiichi will be worse than Chernobyl. "

    Your description is so wrong on so many levels, I would not even know where to begin. I strongly recommend you read up on what actually happened in these two places.

  • 0

    YuriOtani

    Not a very big protest. Sort of reminds me of an anti-base protest in Naha. They had a hard time taking pictures since there were so few "protesters". The number was less than a dozen, more reporters showed up.

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