Four Chinese ships in disputed waters

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    globalwatcher

    Chinese government ships....hmmm. They are testing water, do not get provoked, Japan. If you do, you are fulfilling their objectives. Stay calm.

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    cabadaje

    Thanks JapanToday, we know, not really "news" anymore.

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    arsseb

    Let them draw first blood

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    House Atreides

    The Chinese certainly seem to be intent on stirring up trouble with an increasing number of its neighbors. Even the Indians are now feeling threatened by the Chinese.

    The head of the Indian Navy, Adm. D. K. Joshi, said that India was prepared to send navy vessels to protect its interests in the sea. "Now, are we preparing for it? Are we having exercises of that nature? The short answer is 'yes,' " Admiral Joshi told reporters in India.

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    Kazuaki Shimazaki

    @globalwatcher Ironically, this time, China wins if Japan "stays calm".

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    cabadaje

    Not in any single possible scenario will China win if Japan stays calm.

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    Kazuaki Shimazaki

    China's goal is to expand its claim to the Senkakus by effective occupation (such as sending these ships). Since they were starting from 0, anything they do increases their "market share".

    To counter this, Japan will have to take decisive action (for example, nationalizing, or putting real facilities on the island...etc) But "stays calm" generally equates to not taking such action.

    So China wins.

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    PT24881

    "China's goal is to expand its claim to the Senkakus by effective occupation (such as sending these ships). Since they were starting from 0, anything they do increases their "market share". To counter this, Japan will have to take decisive action (for example, nationalizing, or putting real facilities on the island...etc) But "stays calm" generally equates to not taking such action. So China wins."

    J-govt's Decisive actions, until now, appeared to be dragging the Americans into the troubled waters & securing verbal or procedural commitments of the big brother's protection. Have to 'thank' Ishihrara & his gangs who started the purchase game that offered precious opportunity for the Chinese to 'upgrade' their claims & actions. Ask the Americans -- would you scarify their boys just for a few wild rocks for the friendship with Japan especially when the US-Chinese relation is embedded with multiple core interests for both -- probably exceeding that with the US-Japan one ?

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    cabadaje

    China's goal is to expand its claim to the Senkakus by effective occupation (such as sending these ships).

    Not at all.

    China's goal is to establish a precedent where it can effectively claim contested land as its own and wear down any opposition politically. It is similar to a small child grabbing something and shouting "Mine!"

    Since they were starting from 0, anything they do increases their "market share".

    No. Gaining ground is not the same thing as keeping it. Being one of the world's leading economies is meaningless if there is little stability. Being respected as a world power requires acting like a world power.

    To counter this, Japan will have to take decisive action (for example, nationalizing, or putting real facilities on the island...etc) But "stays calm" generally equates to not taking such action.

    That's is China's way of thinking. A national, heck, almost a regional mindset, limited in scope to the days where the world extended to the reach of your military. The global arena is a much different place. If you think of national politics as the playground (not too much of a stretch, actually), then you have to think about global politics as the teacher's lounge. Decisive action is one option, but not the only one, and not always the best one. There are situations such as these, where the aggression is most likely a bluff, where the best course is to hold your ground, neither retreating nor advancing. The less effort you expend, the more in control you look. The more effort they expend, the more aggressive they look. In the playground, being the most aggressive puts you on top. In the teacher's lounge, being the most aggressive gets you written up.

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    comarade_captain

    The Japanese coast guard has been exhausted and lost this game day by day!

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    cabadaje

    The Japanese coast guard has been exhausted and lost this game day by day!

    Is the pay decent, compared to other jobs in the PRC?

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