God fearing, moral Mormons. At least many of them. I always treat them with respect as I try to do to all men, including those who preach the religion of no religion. Always polite and I am allowed to speak and share ideas. Moral behavior is very important and one can find common ground there for people of good will. Love others, as I have loved you is Christian ground and can be found in many of these kind people.
the paceisglacia: The problem is the proselytizing, what Mormons or any oher group practice in their home or in their temple is of no concern to me. I have the very same problem with Jehova's Witnesses, do not come to my door peddling any religeon and expect a warm reception and positive view of your religeon.
usaexpat: trust me they don't expect a warm reception but many people do welcome them into their homes. They will go away after you decline their offer. The door to door salesmen in Japan and the annoying trucks blasting some annoying jingle is far more bothersome than two young men knocking on my door one time.
Nessie: Using Mark Hoffman as an example shows you really are reaching and really don't have much proof of Mormon terrorism. The very same man sought to defraud the Church but you go and insinuate he is a Mormon Terrorist? The Mountain Meadows massacre: Show me one group of people that don't have blemishes on their past. I also suspect you know little of the incident outside of the wikipedia article.
I don`t mind people peddling religion because I have the strength to politely decline. But I STRONGLY object to them standing at the entrance to our subway station trying to hook my 5 year old daughter into a conversation and give her literature to "give to Mummy".
I am so deeply ingrained in my religion anyway, no-one can sway me. I am a staunch, committed kirakira-ist! We are a very small movement. I have pamphlets if anyone is interested.....!
they can try it on the locals but have always seemed offended when I tell them to piss off. why should someone nearly half my age feel he knows more about the universe than I do?
Spot on DenDon :) I have nothing against Mormonism as such, but I do have a problem with the way post war Japan was opened up with more than favorable terms to this organization along with others. Okay, well perhaps I do have a slight problem with modern US doctrines as they are generally originate from the religious zealots which were originally kicked out of Europe.
" a young man in the 1820s, Smith participated in a "craze for treasure hunting"[3] by using seer stones in attempts to locate lost items and buried treasure.[4] Smith would put a stone in a white stovepipe hat and would then "see the required information in reflections given off by the stone".[5] While Smith was being paid for this "glass looking," "
See the young chaps out on their bikes in this neck of the woods. They are just like young grunts (working for a different army) if you can get them away from discussions about religion. Me being not interested in their product makes them rather harmless.
Then again, there is something about having religious zealots approach people on the street that really irritates me. My older son (in Junior high school) was approached by a couple of young Mormons while out and about with his friends. While not being overly aggressive, my son in the end had to tell them to FO. On the other hand, if I had a daughter I would feel rather uncomfortable about these young chaps "just wanting to talk" to her.
Finally, for better or worse, I think the Mormons are rather successful in Japan because of the language education they give these young missionaries. Although their Japanese language skills are far from perfect, they are miles ahead of the skills possessed by other young non-Japanese who visit Japan.
Nessie: Using Mark Hoffman as an example shows you really are reaching and really don't have much proof of Mormon terrorism. The very same man sought to defraud the Church but you go and insinuate he is a Mormon Terrorist?
He grew up a Mormon and was a self-professed Mormon. He did his mission. He carried out his crimes while a member of the Mormon Church. He murdered people with bombs. What would you call it, if not Mormon terrorism?
The Mountain Meadows massacre: Show me one group of people that don't have blemishes on their past.
That only proves that Mormons are not the only terrorists.
I also suspect you know little of the incident outside of the wikipedia article.
I am eager to hear your historical revisionism, at your convenience. I am curious to know your rationalization for the extermination of a disarmed group who included women and children.
Moderator: Readers, this is veering off topic. Your posts need to refer to the Mormons in Japan.
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Sarge at 06:15 PM JST - 6th October
"Why are people so threatened by Mormons?"
Beats me - I've never heard of a Mormon involved in a terrorist attack.
OneForAll at 07:15 PM JST - 6th October
God fearing, moral Mormons. At least many of them. I always treat them with respect as I try to do to all men, including those who preach the religion of no religion. Always polite and I am allowed to speak and share ideas. Moral behavior is very important and one can find common ground there for people of good will. Love others, as I have loved you is Christian ground and can be found in many of these kind people.
Nessie at 07:25 PM JST - 6th October
Yeah, the Mountain Meadows Massacre was just a good day's hunting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MountainMeadowsmassacre
And more recently, this amazing case...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hofmann
Still, it's true that the Morms have been underperformers when it comes to religious terrorism.
usaexpat at 11:36 PM JST - 6th October
the paceisglacia: The problem is the proselytizing, what Mormons or any oher group practice in their home or in their temple is of no concern to me. I have the very same problem with Jehova's Witnesses, do not come to my door peddling any religeon and expect a warm reception and positive view of your religeon.
thepaceisglacia at 07:55 AM JST - 7th October
usaexpat: trust me they don't expect a warm reception but many people do welcome them into their homes. They will go away after you decline their offer. The door to door salesmen in Japan and the annoying trucks blasting some annoying jingle is far more bothersome than two young men knocking on my door one time.
thepaceisglacia at 08:05 AM JST - 7th October
Nessie: Using Mark Hoffman as an example shows you really are reaching and really don't have much proof of Mormon terrorism. The very same man sought to defraud the Church but you go and insinuate he is a Mormon Terrorist? The Mountain Meadows massacre: Show me one group of people that don't have blemishes on their past. I also suspect you know little of the incident outside of the wikipedia article.
kirakira25 at 10:22 AM JST - 7th October
I don`t mind people peddling religion because I have the strength to politely decline. But I STRONGLY object to them standing at the entrance to our subway station trying to hook my 5 year old daughter into a conversation and give her literature to "give to Mummy".
I am so deeply ingrained in my religion anyway, no-one can sway me. I am a staunch, committed kirakira-ist! We are a very small movement. I have pamphlets if anyone is interested.....!
DenDon at 10:27 AM JST - 7th October
they can try it on the locals but have always seemed offended when I tell them to piss off. why should someone nearly half my age feel he knows more about the universe than I do?
Makkun70 at 12:02 PM JST - 7th October
Spot on DenDon :) I have nothing against Mormonism as such, but I do have a problem with the way post war Japan was opened up with more than favorable terms to this organization along with others. Okay, well perhaps I do have a slight problem with modern US doctrines as they are generally originate from the religious zealots which were originally kicked out of Europe.
Makkun70 at 12:11 PM JST - 7th October
" a young man in the 1820s, Smith participated in a "craze for treasure hunting"[3] by using seer stones in attempts to locate lost items and buried treasure.[4] Smith would put a stone in a white stovepipe hat and would then "see the required information in reflections given off by the stone".[5] While Smith was being paid for this "glass looking," "
Only in America folks :)
timorborder at 12:19 PM JST - 7th October
See the young chaps out on their bikes in this neck of the woods. They are just like young grunts (working for a different army) if you can get them away from discussions about religion. Me being not interested in their product makes them rather harmless.
Then again, there is something about having religious zealots approach people on the street that really irritates me. My older son (in Junior high school) was approached by a couple of young Mormons while out and about with his friends. While not being overly aggressive, my son in the end had to tell them to FO. On the other hand, if I had a daughter I would feel rather uncomfortable about these young chaps "just wanting to talk" to her.
Finally, for better or worse, I think the Mormons are rather successful in Japan because of the language education they give these young missionaries. Although their Japanese language skills are far from perfect, they are miles ahead of the skills possessed by other young non-Japanese who visit Japan.
Tatanka at 03:01 PM JST - 7th October
@Nessie -- get it right, Mark Hoffmann was a forger & extortionist who stooped to terrorist actions out of greed.
Moderator: Back on topic please.
Mittsu at 03:07 PM JST - 7th October
Excellent news - I for one support the increase of christianity in Japan.
Nessie at 04:04 PM JST - 7th October
He grew up a Mormon and was a self-professed Mormon. He did his mission. He carried out his crimes while a member of the Mormon Church. He murdered people with bombs. What would you call it, if not Mormon terrorism?
That only proves that Mormons are not the only terrorists.
I am eager to hear your historical revisionism, at your convenience. I am curious to know your rationalization for the extermination of a disarmed group who included women and children.
Moderator: Readers, this is veering off topic. Your posts need to refer to the Mormons in Japan.
Delarapier at 02:42 PM JST - 10th October
Mormons ought to make quite an impact in Japan.