Completely insane, any chance of balance in the SDF? We have one article the other day saying about self-inflicted wounds, wasn't it? Another about suicide and now this.
I'm probably speaking far too soon here, but I agree with some of the other posters, it was just a chance to whack a guy that was probably seen as weak for leaving that service.
I really hope this guy's family take the SDF to court and sue over this.
I hope the dude didn't suffer, but I have a feeling that getting beat to death by 15 special forces dudes ain't a good way to go. I hope the family exacts their pound of flesh.
This is more like murder with finesse. MSDF should remind its officers involved that killing isn't part of the training or else they will run out of specially trained troops.
The MSDF doesn't even want to protect Japanese cruise ships from pirates!!
Are they allowed to constitutionally?
something is horribly wrong here
It's called "adult bullying". This sort of thing is really terrible, but it seems to happen all over the world in various militaries. The trainers in some sports can be pretty unpleasant too.
How this can be stopped, I don't know. It shouldn't be inevitable, yet for some reason it is around the world. Even if you take the violence out of it, it seems like human beings will continue to bully others to make themselves feel better or reduce the competition.
No, this is called a break down of leadership on the part of the clowns that organized this little "event." Filling in somebody just because they have "rung the bell" is both stupid and dangerous.
What happened here seems to be little more than a lynching, all those involved should face a court martial. The leaders in particular, whether they were NCOs or officers, should be charged, imprisoned and then drummed out of the service.
They killed him for quitting a team that DOESN'T even have a mission!! >The MSDF doesn't even want to protect Japanese cruise ships from >pirates!! The JSDF was protected by Australians and Dutch in Iraq. What >are these "commandos" so proud of that they have to murder their >compatriot?
Almost invariably the missions for which any special forces are deployed
aren't widely publicized. I'm not aware of any country that deloys Special forces to guard civilian cruise ships, although just about any country may deploy them in the case it was highjacked.
As for the SDF's humanitarian mission in Iraq, whilst it is fact that
British and Australian troops were assigned to guard the SDF, the
deployed SDF contingent actually did include some special forces
members assigned to security. I think you're barking up the wrong tree
entirely as this is a disciplinary issue within the training facilities.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree entirely as this is a disciplinary issue within the training facilities.
I don't think so... it is a general pathology... don't forget the school system and the huge amount of students victim of the same "disciplinary issue within the training facilities"... I share your argument on Iraq.
Poor guy! If the other officers have gone through this type training it might just be a case that this guys body was not up to this type stress. Some people just have weaker minds and bodies and sometimes it is hard to tell. I'm sure this is not the first military incident that has had a similar case where an officer dies in training.
It's sad for the parents. They will never see their son alive again. He should have been wearing protective gear. Can anyone believe that he was training to fight fifteen man as a " going away present " ?
no different than kendo either. anytime someone leaves and moves to another city we give that person a "going away present". he has to perform "kakarigeiko" with everyone in the dojo, starting with the least experienced and ending with sensei or sempai. unfortunately, the people in this incident took it too far. did not pull back some when they should have, or something. it is funny though the people on JT that comment on things that they know so little about. get over it, unless you are japanese, you are never going to be able to fully understand japanese people. ;)
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Betting at 03:10 PM JST - 13th October
Completely insane, any chance of balance in the SDF? We have one article the other day saying about self-inflicted wounds, wasn't it? Another about suicide and now this.
I'm probably speaking far too soon here, but I agree with some of the other posters, it was just a chance to whack a guy that was probably seen as weak for leaving that service.
I really hope this guy's family take the SDF to court and sue over this.
helloklitty at 07:15 PM JST - 13th October
It would take a pretty slick apology to convince them not to.
Anyway, age 25 with 45 income-producing years ahead of him. Gonna cost a pretty penny.
Word to the wise: when you quit, don't hang around for a beating.
bamboohat at 09:58 PM JST - 13th October
I hope the dude didn't suffer, but I have a feeling that getting beat to death by 15 special forces dudes ain't a good way to go. I hope the family exacts their pound of flesh.
doubleclick at 10:16 PM JST - 13th October
This is more like murder with finesse. MSDF should remind its officers involved that killing isn't part of the training or else they will run out of specially trained troops.
nibachan at 11:22 PM JST - 13th October
first a young sumo wrestler, now a young military.... both killed in a training session... mmmmh... something is horribly wrong here.
Shumatsu_Samurai at 12:18 AM JST - 14th October
Are they allowed to constitutionally?
It's called "adult bullying". This sort of thing is really terrible, but it seems to happen all over the world in various militaries. The trainers in some sports can be pretty unpleasant too.
How this can be stopped, I don't know. It shouldn't be inevitable, yet for some reason it is around the world. Even if you take the violence out of it, it seems like human beings will continue to bully others to make themselves feel better or reduce the competition.
timorborder at 01:31 AM JST - 14th October
No, this is called a break down of leadership on the part of the clowns that organized this little "event." Filling in somebody just because they have "rung the bell" is both stupid and dangerous.
What happened here seems to be little more than a lynching, all those involved should face a court martial. The leaders in particular, whether they were NCOs or officers, should be charged, imprisoned and then drummed out of the service.
OssanULTRA at 01:33 AM JST - 14th October
Almost invariably the missions for which any special forces are deployed aren't widely publicized. I'm not aware of any country that deloys Special forces to guard civilian cruise ships, although just about any country may deploy them in the case it was highjacked. As for the SDF's humanitarian mission in Iraq, whilst it is fact that British and Australian troops were assigned to guard the SDF, the deployed SDF contingent actually did include some special forces members assigned to security. I think you're barking up the wrong tree entirely as this is a disciplinary issue within the training facilities.
nibachan at 03:08 AM JST - 14th October
I think you're barking up the wrong tree entirely as this is a disciplinary issue within the training facilities.
I don't think so... it is a general pathology... don't forget the school system and the huge amount of students victim of the same "disciplinary issue within the training facilities"... I share your argument on Iraq.
KitsuneYoukai at 04:23 AM JST - 14th October
Poor guy! If the other officers have gone through this type training it might just be a case that this guys body was not up to this type stress. Some people just have weaker minds and bodies and sometimes it is hard to tell. I'm sure this is not the first military incident that has had a similar case where an officer dies in training.
soldave at 09:23 AM JST - 14th October
I'm guessing this incident was "regrettable"?
memyselfI at 09:30 AM JST - 14th October
It's sad for the parents. They will never see their son alive again. He should have been wearing protective gear. Can anyone believe that he was training to fight fifteen man as a " going away present " ?
n3312 at 10:06 AM JST - 14th October
Sounds like one of those "military traditions" gone horribly wrong. What ever happened to the customary jab to the abdomen?
Hughgarse at 01:15 PM JST - 14th October
no different than Crav Maga.. they do the same training..
kendoka at 09:18 PM JST - 14th October
no different than kendo either. anytime someone leaves and moves to another city we give that person a "going away present". he has to perform "kakarigeiko" with everyone in the dojo, starting with the least experienced and ending with sensei or sempai. unfortunately, the people in this incident took it too far. did not pull back some when they should have, or something. it is funny though the people on JT that comment on things that they know so little about. get over it, unless you are japanese, you are never going to be able to fully understand japanese people. ;)
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