Pearl Harbor dead remembered on 71st anniversary

National Dec. 08, 2012 - 07:06AM JST ( 19 )

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saidaniDec. 08, 2012 - 08:18AM JST

Those poor soldiers. If they only knew that FDR sold them out to justify America's entrance into the war.
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PontepilateDec. 08, 2012 - 08:27AM JST

"“Let us remember that this is where it all began..." there cannot be a truer statement ... It signaled Japan's choice and determination to enter the war on the side of Nazi Germany... Strange though, that there's no reference in this article to a statement from the Japanese government as to the fact that that choice to side with fascist designs of the Nazis is what led to unforetold suffering for its people... Should we then say, that Japan has never found reason to question that choice??? And continues to play the card of the victim???
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saidaniDec. 08, 2012 - 08:36AM JST

The claim that Japan attacked the United States without provocation was typical rhetoric. It worked because the public did not know that the administration had expected Japan to respond with war; to anti-Japanese measures it had taken in July 1941. Expecting to lose a war with the United States, and lose it disastrously, Japan's leaders had tried with growing desperation to negotiate. On this point, most historians had long agreed.

Meanwhile evidence has come out that Roosevelt and Hull persistently refused to negotiate. Japan offered compromises and concessions, which the United States countered with increasing demands. It was after learning of Japan's decision to go to war with the United States, if the talks "break down" that Roosevelt decided to break them off.

According to Attorney General, Francis Biddle, Roosevelt said he hoped for an incident in the Pacific to bring the United States into the European war."

As Secretary of War, Henry Stimson, testified after the war: "We needed the Japanese to commit the first overt act."

-George Victor The Pearl Harbor Myth http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597971618?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1597971618&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell
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Cortes ElijahDec. 08, 2012 - 08:49AM JST

Lets remember the nuke bombing of Japan too. Where more people were killed and mostly civilians.

None the less. I hope the families that lost loved ones can smile because they are in a better place waiting for them.
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kwattDec. 08, 2012 - 09:12AM JST

The US said it did not know Japanese fleets approaching to Hawaii but the CIA/Intelligence service did know it and did not warn Hawaii. Poor soldiers indeed.
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overchanDec. 08, 2012 - 09:40AM JST

Yeah and remember that all carriers sailed for "practice"
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plasticmonkeyDec. 08, 2012 - 09:59AM JST

the CIA/Intelligence service did know it and did not warn Hawaii

The CIA was not formed until 1947.
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SamuraiBlueDec. 08, 2012 - 10:29AM JST

The US was technically at war with Japan before this event since the US Government had provided technical, financial and human resource to ROC. The Flying Tigers Squadron which fought directly with the IJA is a fine example.
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cabadajeDec. 08, 2012 - 11:07AM JST

Hey! Here's a crazy idea!

How about, on memorial days (y'know, days where we honor those passed), we actually SHUT our pieholes about conspiracy theories, and about denials of attacks, or, knowledge, or holocausts, and about how we know who's really responsible for the killings, and just respectfully remember those people who, under extreme conditions, against overwhelming odds, still fought for their lives and their beliefs.
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Thomas AndersonDec. 08, 2012 - 11:10AM JST

There's no justification for Japan attacking US. US's industries were 10 times bigger than the Japan's industries at the time. Attacking US was suicide for Japan.
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CrisGerSanDec. 08, 2012 - 11:28AM JST

My Cousin was captain of the USS Arizona and remains at his post. Many on both sides served with honour and gave the ultimate sacrifice. Let us remember and thank them all, on both sides, for their sacrifice. It serves no good to blame anyone at this point, we should learn from history so that we dont repeat it.

Japan has achieved miracles not just in the past 60 some years but for hundreds of years, succeeding as a vibrant and remarkable nation and culture with a small land mass and limited resources...great creativity, great determination, and great depth of character on the part of the nation and on the part of all Japanese makes Japan a highly respected nation among all in the world today.
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zichiDec. 08, 2012 - 11:46AM JST

Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it.
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bass4funkDec. 08, 2012 - 11:47AM JST

Hey! Here's a crazy idea!

How about, on memorial days (y'know, days where we honor those passed), we actually SHUT our pieholes about conspiracy theories, and about denials of attacks, or, knowledge, or holocausts, and about how we know who's really responsible for the killings, and just respectfully remember those people who, under extreme conditions, against overwhelming odds, still fought for their lives and their beliefs.

Couldn't have said it better myself. War is war, people die, all sides suffer,good guys and bad guys. All the Oliver Stone conspiracies, Japanese propaganda and everything in between need to just sit back and reflect. In the end, we are all humans and both sides fought for their countries and families.
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smithinjapanDec. 08, 2012 - 12:37PM JST

Much as one side may be the victor, no one truly wins in war. RIP to the dead on both sides.
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CrisGerSanDec. 08, 2012 - 01:26PM JST

I agree, let us pray for all on both .... and may we have peace in the years to come.
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SuperLibDec. 08, 2012 - 03:56PM JST

Some nice comments above. Let them all rest in peace.
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PontepilateDec. 09, 2012 - 01:54AM JST

Read this again, "Let us remember that this is where it all began..." Acknowledging the facts of history is how true healing and a new relationship begins. About the facts...the reason why Germany today is fully integrated with the west and even having army brigades under joint command with France and other European allies is because they fully acknowledge the evil designs of Hitler and have made it a crime for Germans to even question the historical facts of Hitler's Nazi Germany, the one Japan sided with to form the fascist Axis. If Japanese aren't any where close to such a relationship with its neighbors, it is because Japan has never seen anything wrong with making that choice, on the contrary, denies all atrocities committed by its army, rapes, massacres, you name them, claiming not to have given the orders, as if the the imperial army was out there for tourism on the invite of the countries. Who gets fooled when Japan tries to rub the atomic bombing on the face of the world to cover its being responsible for bringing the war home to its people because of fascist designs.
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cabadajeDec. 09, 2012 - 11:13AM JST

Read this again,

Read this again:

"...just respectfully remember those people who, under extreme conditions, against overwhelming odds, still fought for their lives and their beliefs."

"Many on both sides served with honour and gave the ultimate sacrifice. Let us remember and thank them all, on both sides, for their sacrifice. It serves no good to blame anyone at this point,"

"All the Oliver Stone conspiracies, Japanese propaganda and everything in between need to just sit back and reflect. In the end, we are all humans and both sides fought for their countries and families."

"Much as one side may be the victor, no one truly wins in war. RIP to the dead on both sides."

"I agree, let us pray for all on both .... and may we have peace in the years to come."

"Let them all rest in peace."

If Japanese aren't any where close to such a relationship with its neighbors, it is because Japan has never seen anything wrong with making that choice, on the contrary, denies all atrocities committed by its army, rapes, massacres, you name them, claiming not to have given the orders, as if the the imperial army was out there for tourism on the invite of the countries.

Stop the hatred. Stop demanding other cultures do things your way. Stop condemning an entire civilization because you decided that every last man, woman, and child is guilty of the things you hate. That is not how to put a stop to war. All that does is continue the hate.

Who gets fooled when Japan tries to rub the atomic bombing on the face of the world to cover its being responsible for bringing the war home to its people because of fascist designs.

When has Japan used the atomic bombing as a guilt card?
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Egil Henrik LehmannDec. 09, 2012 - 02:01PM JST

I all wars, the first victim is the truth.