Policeman shoots large Tosa dog attacking man in Aichi

Monday 12th January, 06:31 AM JST

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dontpanic at 02:11 AM JST - 13th January

Its a shame the dog had to die but the Police had no choice. Baby or adult, scum or saint, a human life is worth more than a dogs. It wasnt the dogs fault and the owner should be held fully accountable.

Im not sure I agree with holding the owner accountable for the coppers trauma though. I dont for a minute think the Police join the force wanting to shoot anyone or anything. They do have to accept its a real possibility though and as such volunteer to use force if required. The standard of 'volenti non fit injuria' (no wrong is done to one who consents) stands here, not just for the Police but for soldiers in the line of fire and for those that eat too many Mcdonalds.
30061015 at 03:05 PM JST - 13th January

cleo:

By your logic, people join the police force in eager anticipation of using their guns.

LOL! By your "logic"(?), the police should have a psychologist and a grief counselor present at all times with standard issue tissues at the ready in case they are suddenly overwhelmed by uncontrollable tears in the line of duty!

My daughter's a cop...Exactly why women should not be cops! Women are generally too emotional and are usually incapable of being objective in a life and death situation. If your daughter's mental anguish and trauma would prevent her from saving a human life by shooting a vicious attack dog, (not just any dog), *then she get a desk job! *
cleo at 04:10 PM JST - 13th January

your daughter's mental anguish and trauma would prevent her from saving a human life

Never said any such thing.

The kind of person who would be happy going around shooting anything and anyone with gay abandon is NOT the kind of person we want issued with a loaded gun and a police uniform.
dontpanic at 05:30 PM JST - 13th January

30061015-"Women are generally too emotional and are usually incapable of being objective in a life and death situation"

Do you actually know any women? From the many examples I've seen, plenty would be capable of despatching the dog.
30061015 at 11:16 PM JST - 13th January

plenty would be capable of dispatching the dog.

No doubt, but I didn't say a woman couldn't "dispatch" the dog; its whether or not under stress they could act in a timely fashion, given emotional hang ups woman usually have that equate dogs with little children.

cleo

shooting a dog would be more akin to shooting a child
javnation at 11:57 PM JST - 13th January

Any dog that attacks a human away from its property, should be put down. On their property they will get aggressive to strangers, and that is in part why some are kept. My dog is a family pet and guard dog and it does an excellent job at both.

When I walk the dog each night, I see all these vicious little stretch rats being walked. Without fail they have really bad tempered. There are a few people with Tosa's and they are always aggressive, when we bump into them out walking. But the terrier just looks at them, "like what is all your fuss about."

There was an old sod who used to walk his two Labradors through a park in Akatsutsumi, and those dogs were really aggressive. Like mad dogs, and the twit liked to walk up to leash range to other peoples dogs with his beasties foaming at the mouth and barking like mad. My terrier just sat there with these things trying to get a few inches closer and just looked straight at them. I knew and he knew that they would be his breakfast if they touched him. I sort of wished the dumb old fart would let them out an inch further so the Duke could teach them a lesson. But alas it never happened.

Dogs no matter the breed if brought up around people will be friendly to people. When they are isolated and or mistreated they will act unpredictably around people. Also, dogs when they get into packs tend to adopt a group mentality that can over ride their normal friendly manner.

I am glad the Tosa was shot and the guy was lucky that the police were around. I am sure the owner was responsible for the demeanor of the dog, and he should pay for the damage the dog has done.

Jav
dontpanic at 05:13 PM JST - 14th January

30061015 - Youve obviously never had a pet. Most people (clearly not the owner of the Tosa) treat them like members of the family. My point is your 19th century thinking is misplaced and women demonstrate level headedness every day.
presto345 at 05:36 PM JST - 15th January

WHY and HOW the dog became a dangerous animal is a very relevant part of the story.

It's not.
cleo at 07:48 PM JST - 15th January

I haven't learned all the cleo rules yet :-)

Don't worry, there are far too many for anyone (including me) to remember ;-)

But to give you a helping hand -

Rule #1

When a dog turns dangerous/bites/pees on the neighbour's trouserleg/howls in the night/barks all day long/poohs on the pavement/steals food/eats the neighbour's pet wabbit, it's always the owner's responsibility, and usually the owner's fault.

Every dog starts life as a cute little puppy. If it grows up to be a vicious animal that is a threat to humans, in 999 cases out of a 1000 it's because of the way the owner raised it. So 'a vicious animal was killed by a policeman, end of story' just doesn't cut it. The owner needs to be made to take responsibility. And to be banned from ever owning an animal again.

(Does that make things any clearer? :-))
frontandcentre at 03:32 PM JST - 16th January

Hmm... perhaps they should have shot the owner and given the dog therapy instead ?
cleo at 04:26 PM JST - 16th January

front -

No, don't shoot the owner. He's got a lot of bills to pay (dead neighbour's dog, bite wounds on attacked man, probably his dog too) and time to serve for animal abuse and public nuisance.
zurcronium at 05:11 PM JST - 16th January

Cleo,

we dont screen for becoming parents, so hoping that dog owners can be screened is nutty. The point of control is by the breed. No matter how badly a minature poodle is treated, it is not going to kill someone. Breeds that are likely to attack humans or other living things should be illegal. Just like guns in Japan, for basically the same reasons.

Lets inject some reality in this thread.
cleo at 06:40 PM JST - 16th January

zurc -

No, we can't screen before the event, but anyone who has clearly demonstrated that they are not fit to own a dog should have the animal taken away from them and they should be banned from ever owning an animal again. Just as children are removed from abusive parents.

No breed is 'likely to attack humans' just because of its breed. The problem is that the kind of human that chooses a breed with a 'reputation' often does so because of the reputation and the owner isn't interested in training it out, or is incapable of doing so. Or maybe even wants to intensify the aggressiveness.

Responsible owners care for their dogs and see to it that they don't turn into dangerous animals. Training or encouraging a dog to be promiscuously aggressive is animal abuse, whether it's a Tosa or a poodle.
30061015 at 12:00 PM JST - 17th January

dontpanic:

treat them (pets) like members of the family

I have never treated a member of my family like a pet and would not treat a pet like family. Sorry, it may shock you, but a dog is not a person. A society inspired by anthropomorphic Mickey worship & Disney fantasy cannot be expected to understand life and death issues.

women demonstrate level headedness every day

Just not every month.
zurcronium at 05:03 PM JST - 17th January

Cleo,

thanks for your well written post. However the one time and your out rule means that kids or others may be killed by first time owners who are not like you. And they are many, many of them that are careless about their animals.

Once the breed has a record of attacks, it should be banned. That is very simple. While your point that a good owner can check his animal even if its super aggressive, but not all owners will be that way and that is too big a risk for society. Just like guns as I mentioned before. Most here could handle guns here safely, but enought would not that makes them being illegal better for society overall.

I an not familiar with the Tosa, but clearly this dog exists to attack. Its like a loaded gun.