Radiation detected in Fukushima milk, Ibaraki spinach after nuclear accident

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    WordStar

    Well for cryin' out loud, get those cows down to Guam ASAP.

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    AdamB

    But theres nothing to worry about just ask the government. Quote of the century from Edano "Mr Edano said, he also added that they posed no immediate threat to humans". Note no immediate threat. Not no threat just not an immediate one.

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    cyan77

    So a long term effect? Does not sound comforting at all... children drinks milk you know.

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    AdamB

    Just found an interesting state, as the government and nuclear experts keep refering to how safe we are and comparing to a CT scan. I found some information from the FDA in the US about CT scans and radiation levels. "For adults, the FDA estimates the risk of dying from CAT scan radiation induced cancer to 1 in 2000 (for one-time dose of 10 mSv)."

    But then read Edano's quote "“It’s not like if you ate it right away, you would be harmed,” Edano said. “It would not be good to continue to eat it for some time" Note to ones self dont continue to drink milk

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    Zenny11

    And what is the rate/percentage of "CT scan radiation induced cancer" to other cancers?

    Pls, give us FULL details and FULL disclosure and not half-facts.

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    plasticmonkey

    Part of this story is not accurate. I was watching what Edano said. Eating the spinach every day for a full year would be equal to 1/5 of a CT scan. That of course is serious, but it is no cause for panic. Calm down, you people.

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    AdamB

    Zenny11,

    "Pls, give us FULL details and FULL disclosure and not half-facts"

    Sorry though l wasa working for the Japanese government there for a minute. What do you mean 1/2 facts this is what was quoted l am only going by what was written if you have an issue take it up with the FDA

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    Zenny11

    AdamB.

    Nice backtracking after posting scare-mongering data. As for trusting the FDA and their figures, healthier not too.

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    AdamB

    Zenny11,

    Who's backtracking l stand by what l put, all l said was this is the data the FDA has come up with if you dont like it take it up with them not me. "As for trusting the FDA and their figures, healthier not too" yeah far better being a lemming and believing the J government because they are SOOO truthful.

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    hokkaidoguy

    Part of this story is not accurate. I was watching what Edano said. Eating the spinach every day for a full year would be equal to 1/5 of a CT scan. That of course is serious, but it is no cause for panic. Calm down, you people.

    THIS.

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    AdamB

    Zenny11,

    Yep good for you Zenny congrats its all about being anti Japanese.

    You know what, l dont care who it is if they stand up in front of the nation saying how safe they are and compare it to something "safe" likean everyday CT scan. And if you look up the risks of a CT scan and see those figures from the FDA who l trust a lot more than Edano. You ask questions? or dont you want to hear the facts?

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    Zenny11

    AdamB.

    Belief who you want to but don't preach to us how better your sources, etc are. I fully know about the CT risks as I had to have one every 3rd day for 6 weeks.

    I like facts that been confirmed and verified. ;)

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    AdamB

    Zenny11,

    1. Who's preaching?
    2. I never said my source was better read your post again you came out slagging my source and then attacked me when l stood by it.
    3. So you are well aware the 1 CT scan on the abdomen is roughly the equivelent dose of 400 chest xrays. And that the radiation is cummulative.

    And as for your last statement "I like facts that been confirmed and verified" so you dont believe the FDA. But your happy to believe the people that said this "The international community’s view is that they want more volume of accurate information more quickly" yep good for you. Personally l dont just believe everything lm told

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    lovejapan21

    AdamB, everyone can feel ur negativity. Stop twisting the news. All the article is saying is, if u drank milk or eaten spinish from there not to worry (due to small dosage), but to stop eating that shait. Simple.

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    Zenny11

    AdamB.

    I didn't slag the FDA, like I said research it yourself. Where did I say that I believe the J-Goverment, etc you are pulling that out of somewhere in order to try to get me worked up.

    Done here. Have a good one.

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    cstaylor

    They are intentionally confusing the public. Your thyroid will sequester ingested radioactive iodine, and it will continue to decay inside your thyroid, destroying the surrounding tissues. So you don't need to eat it every day to receive the 1/5th CT scan dose, just let it cook away inside of you until it has finally decayed into safer elements.

    The water and food supply are the real dangers from this nuclear accident.

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    plasticmonkey

    This thread is going into meltdown. The figure for a CT scan refers to eating the spinach every day for a year. Obviously this will be very bad economically for the farmers in those areas, but the solution is fairly straightforward. Just don't consume any food grown or raised within the danger zone. If you do consume some, you will not drop dead or develop health problems.

    Again, this story is misquoting Edano.

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    AdamB

    Zenny11,

    "I didn't slag the FDA," Umm yes you did! Your words "As for trusting the FDA and their figures, healthier not too" now who's backing tracking.

    Moderator: All readers, please keep the discussion civil.

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    Zenny11

    Do the research into how trustworthy the FDA is, read about their scandals, etc and why the AMA and many scientists don't trust their figures.

    Discussion over from this end.

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    AdamB

    Ok fine you believe what you want. I was merely posting some information that l found for people to have a more informed opinion. At the end of the day the more info people are given the better decisions they can make. I made the references l did because we are constantly told we are safe by comparing things to a CT scan. Well guess what CT scans arnt that safe.

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    cstaylor

    If you do consume some, you will not drop dead or immediately develop health problems.

    FTFY

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    Yumimoto

    lovejapan21 "AdamB, everyone can feel ur negativity. Stop twisting the news." Unfortunetly he's not negative but telling you the awfull truth. Living in denial won't help you.

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    alladin

    If there is radiation in the milk and spinach, then there is a possibility for it to also be in other foods and probably the water that everyone drinks too. This problem seems to get worst by the moment. I hope the Japanese government will wake up and realize that they are in serious need of help from professionals who can fix the problem rather than trying to cover up for their failures.

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    Antonios_M

    I also agree that the contamination of food is a very serious issue. Even more serious than the direct harm to human beings. Most of the cancers in people around Chernobyl were caused by the contamination of food and not by the immediate threat to human beings. It's a very very serious issue and government should monitor it very carefully.

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    seaforte03

    Edano noted the trace amounts of radioactivity are higher than normal background radiation - but below danger levels. He was trying to calm people into believing products from those areas are safe - but in fact - no sane person in Japan would consume products from those areas unless they were deceived or had no choice (example prison populations, military, schools, restaurants, hotels, etc).

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    METinTokyo

    I wonder if these two items were ever tested for radiation prior to the plant accident and if so what the levels were.

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    forinagai

    The problem we have on this thread is that we have to many amateur scientists, who, given a little information, think they know everything.

    Only read/get your information from reliable sources. The government here is doing everything 'by the book'. They haven't covered up anything. If they had, we wouldn't have heard anything about contaminated food.

    Will people please take a few steps back, calm down, stop the effin panic.

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    HonestDictator

    While its not good to panic, its also not good to stop from seriously observing the situation or trying to pacify with soft words when one doesn't know what the final outcome will be. If lets say after a few years of drinking irradiated water and consuming irradiated food more health problems arise in the population of the affected area or an increase of health problems in their children then it will be too late. Remember its not like the radiation will go away in a few days or weeks. The most hazerdous radiation particle is the iodine, but thankfully they say it should dissipate in about 8 days at most. That only leaves the other two somewhat less harmful particles that take between 28-30 years to dissipate. So use some wisdom and try to avoid food and water that have abnormal issues. Only time will tell, but I can guarantee you the people who are in the "zone" and their descendants will most likely have a spike in genetically induced health problems. You are what you eat.

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    SamuraiBlue

    The spinach has no problem whatsoever if you wash them thoroughly since it is just contaminates collected on the plant's surface as dust. The milk it is probably through dust collecting on the milk receptacles since I it is too early to have gone through the cows metabolism and introduced into the milk. In any case it has no significant danger since the readings are minute. You're probably more likely to die of cancer or heart problems through passive smoking.

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    HermioneGranger

    I am wondering what the farmers are going to do if they can't sell their product. They'll have no income!! In that case they can't buy food and so will have to eat their own... only they can't! Even though it's not harmful in general.

    Poor guys. So is the government going to help them out too?

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    rtega

    The difference with chernobyl at this time being that the reactor itself blew up in Chernobyl and radioactivity was litterally blown into the sky unhindered for almost a week. For the time being this hasn't yet happened in Fukushima.

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    Monkeyz

    Only read/get your information from reliable sources.

    The problem is that, historically speaking, Japanese officials have not been reliable sources. Japan has a history of cover-ups when things like this happen. Sometimes it's just like how a doctor might not tell a patient that he/she has cancer (not sure about now, but used to be standard practice in Japan). Because they don't want to upset anyone or make them panic. But far better to tell the truth than to keep people in the dark regarding their health.

    With a history of lies and obfuscation, the question is whether we can take them at their word when they say the radiation is minimal and that there are no risks. Perhaps there are no risks. Perhaps it is just as they say. Or perhaps it's far worse and they just don't want to incite panic.

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    METinTokyo

    Conspiracy theory AKA there's something rotten in Denmark

    In thinking about the spinach and milk situation I now wonder if in fact some (perhaps minute) amounts of radiation have been leaking from these old nuclear plants for quite some time. Given that most dairy cows here are not really free range and spend little time grazing naturally it would I believe take quite a long time for them to ingest enough irradiated grass to have an effect on their milk. Much of their food source is from cattle feed often in the form of pellets much like dog food. Could it be that the powers at be have known about the leakage for quite some time but now that the accident at the plants has happened it is an ideal time to create a scapegoat (as it were) and pretend that all of this has occured since the accident.

    With the spinach one would think that irradiated ground water would be the logical explanation, yet is it really possible the ground water could become so tainted in such a short time (one week) and that the spinach could absorb enough in that time span to become impregnated with radiation. Again, could it be that the water has been this way long before the accident.

    Not saying any of the above is true, just wondering.

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