Radiation fears slow clean-up in Tohoku

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  • 7

    NZ2011

    I think its very understandable both sides, sure people want to re-build even though perhaps they shouldn't and of course that others don't want waste burnt near them.

    The safeguards so far have seemingly failed almost predictably.

  • 11

    David Wagner

    ‎"Ash produced by the incineration is safe. The radioactivity measured in the ash is 133 becquerels per kilogram, which is lower than the temporary level set for food, so there is no danger and no need to worry"....You know, when a contagious patient enters a hospital that patient is isolated so as not to spread the infection to others....Why on earth is radioactive debris being spread through the country?....

  • 11

    Speed

    This is a result of the people not trusting what the government is saying due to all the previous "It's safe" reassurances that proved to be false. We just don't know what to believe anymore. This is why the handling of this disaster's aftermath has been such a failure - trust in government has eroded.

  • 17

    gifu

    Wouldn't it be cheaper and safer to offer relocation assistance to anyone in those areas who wants to move to an undamaged area? Here in Gifu, for example, there are many rural communities who would be happy to have more children in their schools and more taxpayers on their rolls. Better to spread human beings around e country than to spread potentially radioactive debris.

  • 3

    NetNinja

    Can't blame the people for not wanting to go in there. It's a health risk, plain and simple. I wonder if they will force prisoners to clean it up. it would be a death sentence indeed.

    Anyway, TEPCO doesn't want to spend the money to remote controlled vehicles. They still insist to sacrifice lives. I guess there's nothing cheaper than human resources.

    Just put the stuff in rockets and blast it to the Sun.

  • 6

    Ven Carolyn Ilagan

    @Gifu is right... why expend resources trying to cleanup untreatable debris? Spend the money relocating to more far flung southern areas and rebuild whole communities thereat but more importantly, provide opportunities for them to eke out a living themselves not relying on compensation from Tepco!!!

    Cleaning via burning only spreads more radiation and hot particles into the rest of the world !!!!

  • 5

    kurisupisu

    The burning of radioactive material is safe ? This is not a standard practice is it ? The mindset is to continue to live in contaminated areas while spreading the contamination around Japan! Madness!

  • 10

    MaboDofuIsSpicy

    People are not smart.

    You cannot rebuild where the debris is anyway, as another tsunami will most definitely come again in time. Give it a break and leave the junk as a reminder and build on higher ground. Problem solved.

  • 2

    Ranger_Miffy2

    For once, I totally agree with Mabo*

  • 6

    tmarie

    **“We want to rebuild at all costs,” he said. “To do that we have to clear the rubble as soon as possible. I wish people in Tokyo and other areas would understand the situation we are in.” **

    People understand the situation which is why no one wants the garbage from the area being burned in their backyard and possibility making other people sick.

    Like others, I don't think people need to be focused on rebuilding. They need to focus on getting their family to a safe area and start over - be it in Gifu, Fukuoka... I disagree with our tax money being used to rebuild communities that had an average age of 65 and were dying a slow death as it was.

  • 3

    Utrack

    But what is up with Strontium-90 in the air of Tokyo Japan communist political party asked Tokyo local government to disclose strontium related information, so they finally published it on 11/2. Human (50kg) breathes about 23,000L(*) of air everyday, which means Tokyo citizen took 0.23 Bq of strontium-90 on the daily basis. Now it has been about 8 months since 311. Tokyo citizen has already absorbed 55.2 Bq of Strontium-90. Unlike food, hot particles taken into the lung will never get out of your body. It does not take longer than a month to reach bone marrow. This explains why acute leukemia case is spiking up.

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/11/strontium90-in-the-air-of-tokyo/

  • 5

    Elvensilvan

    "The radioactivity measured in the ash is 133 becquerels per kilogram, which is lower than the temporary level set for food, so there is no danger and no need to worry"

    Question here for Minister Hosono: When will the radiation safety levels revert to pre-disaster levels?

    We all know that the radiation levels were temporarily increased to cope with the emergency situation. But so far, the levels remained even after the so-called cold shutdown conditions have been achieved.

    I do believe that explaining the radiation levels as well as reverting it to pre-disaster levels should ease up some public fears and build some trust.

  • 3

    Graham DeShazo

    “We want to rebuild at all costs,” This comment alone shows why emotional decsions should be made at the national level. You don't do anything at all costs. There has to come a point at which it is better to abandon in place and allow time to heal what existing technology cannot.

    I know you loved that area. I know you feel like you are getting the short end of the stick, but life is like that sometimes. This might be a little harsh, but the truth sometimes is.

  • -2

    Matthew Simon

    You comments are easy to say if your are not involved. Some would rather die then abandon their homes, and this is understandable in a place where tradition is so important. I have no opinion either way since I don't live there. But I wish all of them the best and pray for their strength and courage in the years to come.

  • 3

    moomoochoo

    Does anyone else think that burning this waste is an extremely stupid idea?

  • -2

    Airion

    It's an interesting side of human nature. People want to help, but not so much that they're willing to accept any risk to themselves, however small.

  • 0

    Fadamor

    There's nothing that says the debris is radioactive OR untreatable. The majority of the debris is going to come from areas nowhere near Fukushima Daiichi. Most of these people who need to rebuild lived right near the ocean so they could get to their fishing vessels easily. I don't think a rural area like Gifu appeals to them as it's too far from the harbor.

    The sad part is we as a species really don't KNOW what a "safe" level of radiation exposure is. Where knowledge is missing, fear and superstition flourish.

  • 2

    warnerbro

    “We want to rebuild at all costs,” Yes, even at the cost of children's health. If it's really safe, set it alight where it is. The fact is that any amount of radioactive debris brought in from outside and burnt will increase the ambient radiation from what it would have been without the debris. Tokyo is still blithely burning radioactive sludge and garbage and spewing radioactive gases and particles around the city. And the governor and this clown Hosono want Tokyo's children to inhale even more radioactivity. Hosono's previous career accomplishment was having an affair with minor and rapidly fading TV starlet (costing her job but not his) and now he's in charge of environmental policy? If I were as handsome a bloke as people say he is, I'd be much more selective. But I digress. The once in a thousand year tsunamis are actually coming 2 or 3 times a century in that part of Japan and rebuilding in the same place is lunacy. There are deserted hamlets all along Japan's coasts, indeed everywhere outside the largest cities. People could easily and cheaply be resettled. Or they could build new incinerators in the devastated prefectures that would be less harmful to the environment.

  • 1

    Reckless

    I am no genius, but why not bury that stuff just where it is at? Is it a cultural/religious thing to want to burn everything? THere could be a big radiation mountain with ski lifts and neon lights that run on the radiation seeping out.

    Also, couldn't they just haul it to the ocean and dump it, like they do most other garbage?

    A Concerned Environmentalist

  • 1

    tmarie

    You comments are easy to say if your are not involved. Some would rather die then abandon their homes, and this is understandable in a place where tradition is so important.

    How are we not involved? We are ALL worried about our food these days. Our tax money is being used. That involves those of us living here. If you think tradition trumps health, by all means but I certainly don't.

  • 3

    Ranger_Miffy2

    Reckless...massive dumping into the ocean is a reckless proposal for sure. Just leave it and people have to start new lives elsewhere...on another coast...until the next npp jinxes.

    As for, "We want to rebuild at all costs." NO, WE DON'T!

  • 3

    jforce

    Been saying it from the outset: Time to rebuild somewhere else at the expense of TEPCO. Those areas are gone for the next couple of generations and the radiation cleansing process is a scam. Especially the tarp covered debris that just sits there ... ahem ... cleansing. People should be scared, people should not be permitted to return there to live, people need to wake up.

  • 5

    zichi

    It isn't just Fukushima, Miyagi and Iwate which are contaminated by radiation. A very large area of the country, including Gifu is also contaminated.

    According to the Science Ministry 8% of the total land mass or 30,000 sq lms are contaminated. High levels of radiation were discovered in Hiroshima but never publicly reported.

    The 20 million tons of debris should be moved to the no-go zone around the Fukushima NPP. Don't assume all the debris is contaminated while you think you're own backyard is clean and free from radiation.

    A new incinerator can be built inside the no-go zone which could also generate power, to burn the debris which is safe.

    The reconstruction of Miyagi and Iwate needs to get started but the problem with the debris is slowing that down.

    All the 3/11 disasters are national ones, not just the problem of those areas which took a direct hit.

  • 2

    Darren Brannan

    Sorry. Hosono is a a scoundrel who bends the truth to make it fit. How can ANYONE believe a word he says when he and Kan were busted for burying the worst case scenario dossier they claimed 'never existed'. They were willing to risk millions of lives to save Japan's face. Only good luck saved them from being found out in an awful way.

  • 1

    KingBasil

    Radiation fears slow clean-up in Tohoku

    "Fears" implies there is no basis. I would much prefer the word "concerns". The problem of radiation and radioactive particles is very real. And there is not and never was a need to transport this stuff out of the prefectures its in. They all have plenty of places to store it in their own prefectures while they find places to bury it permanently. And it should not be burned anyway, not anywhere...by anyone.

  • 0

    Utrack

    Cesium flew further than 1200km, According to the report of Japanese ministry of environment, Cesium-134 ,-137 were measured from refuse incineration ash even in Ogasawara mura, where is 1200km south west to Fukushima plants. The link page is in japanese but you can read the story on Fukushima-diary . com

    http://www.env.go.jp/jishin/

  • 0

    KingBasil

    Ogasawara mura, where is 1200km south west to Fukushima plants.

    Actually it is almost due South of the plants out in the ocean, and the mura is several islands, including Ioto (Iwo Jima).

  • -1

    sunhawk

    let prisoners on 25+ year sentences work clean up. when it is over and they are still alive they can be pardoned and exiled from japan.

  • 1

    Frederick Russian

    There is a large mass of Tsunami rubble headed east across the Pacific Ocean that I lost track of that was to pass north of Hawaii and was to continue on the the Pacific Coast of the North American Continent. I hope to here where it washes ashore. Thank You

  • 1

    Blair Herron

    The 20 million tons of debris should be moved to the no-go zone around the Fukushima NPP

    How about moving the debris inside the Fukushima Daiichi area, first.Total site area is quite large; 3,500,000square meter which is the size of 74 Tokyo domes. There are lots of empty spaces with field and forests. Also more debris can be moved to Fukushima Daini area, too. 1,500,000square meter which is the size of 31 Tokyo domes.

  • 1

    zichi

    Blair Herron, I think the area inside the Fukushima Daiichi area you spoke about will have to be used eventually to store the nuclear waste which will come out of the NPP. There is also a problem with storage of contaminated soil once its removed.

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