Record radiation levels found in fish caught off Fukushima

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  • 12

    Farmboy

    I wonder what they do with radioactive fish when they are done measuring them.

  • 2

    waltery

    I where that fish is in the (non humanan) food chain.

  • 2

    waltery

    Oops - I "wonder" where

  • 9

    bass4funk

    Just try and imagine when the cameras are NOT looking where these fish wind up. If you think all those fish are going to be tossed back in the ocean, Boy do I have news for you.

  • 12

    herefornow

    The fish, caught 20 kilometers offshore from the plant on Aug 1, registered 25,800 becquerels of cesium per kilo, Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said—258 times the level the government deems safe for consumption.

    Seriously, no one can be surprised by this. Given that the plant is still leaking radioactive water and will likely for quite a while. Japan, once heralded, at least by itself, as a great guardian of the environment, has poisened itself, on both land and sea. All in the pursuit of "cheap energy".

  • 10

    zichi

    The land and sea has been poisoned for tens of decades, all in the pursuit of profit for a few.

  • 2

    YankeeX

    How surprising!!

  • 8

    ratpack

    A pair of rock trout have shown the highest level of radioactive cesium detected in fish and shellfish caught in waters off Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant, its operator said Tuesday

    .

    I'm sure that record will be broken in the coming weeks/months/years

  • 6

    MasterBape

    Note that the second from last sentence states that other catches have "shown only small amounts of radioactivity".

    The attitude here is that small amounts is acceptable, so fishing can continue.

    The Govt. and fishing agencies have it all wrong, and should, in now way, allow commercial fishing.

    It's baffling how this country operates at times with such serious matters; amazing how people can turn a blind eye to it all.

  • 7

    MasterBape

    My comment above, I meant commercial fishing shouldn't be allowed off Fukushima.

  • 16

    gogogo

    TEPCO said the trout might have fed in radioactive hotspots and that it would sample more of the fish, their feed and the seabed soil in the area in the coming weeks to determine the cause of the high radiation.

    It came from your nuclear reactor.

  • -2

    japan_cynic

    One of my relatives just took a 1/3 GIGABECQUEREL iodine pill. That's 300,000,000 Bq, or well over 1 ton of this fish.

  • 3

    Lilic

    Im not surprise to know they will glow in the dark anytime soon!

  • 16

    borscht

    TEPCO said the trout might have fed in radioactive hotspots and that it would sample more of the fish, their feed and the seabed soil in the area in the coming weeks to determine the cause of the high radiation.

    I see TEPCO is going into the 'fisheries research' business; sort of like the 'whale research' business. So expect two things: radioactive fish at the supermarket and the government raising 'acceptable' levels of radioactive cesium that will show no 'immediate' health danger to 25,800 Bq.

  • 5

    yasukuni

    "TEPCO said the trout might have fed in radioactive hotspots and that it would sample more of the fish, their feed and the seabed soil in the area in the coming weeks to determine the cause of the high radiation."

    Wow, what a relief. I was worried when I saw the headline, but now we can all relax. Tepco is right on it!

  • 8

    tokyokawasaki

    What about the levels of the fish in supermarkets (yesterday, today and tomorrow) that haven't been tested?

    The is Japan. 2nd King (behind China) of corporate corruption, scandals and miss-labeling. That being said I am sure that all consumables in the supermarkets are safe to eat :)

    Why is it safe? ___________ fill in the sellers and distributors rhetoric...

  • 8

    Disillusioned

    And, this is surprising because ? ? ?

    The problem is, how can you trust any of the fishermen to be honest and how can you trust the fish mongers to test and label the fish?

  • -6

    japan_cynic

    Correction to my above comment, the standard medical dose for thyroid radiotherapy is more than 10 tons of this fish.

  • 3

    tmarie

    Oh I am just shocked at this - shocked that the public was informed. Ban all fishing in the area and be done with it. My family is disgusted by the storries I've told them about Japan and the blind eye they are turning to food from the area.

  • 2

    zichi

    If you are receiving radiotherapy, it's because you are in a "life or death situation" so most but not all choose the radiotherapy to try and beat the cancer.

    The radiation found in this fish, 17 months after the nuclear disaster is higher than allowed by law, 258 times higher.

  • 4

    gogogo

    Time to bring my geiger counter to the supermarket again

  • 3

    Cricky

    Remember this is what they deem to say, multiply by at LEAST 10 and it's probably closer to the truth. The focus is on returning to normal not public safety.

  • 5

    Cricky

    17 months latter and now this is released from TEPCO, excuse me for having a modicum of doubt! Was there a sound track to the release of this? Was there a clear and unedited release? Is it all a beat up? Controlled buy tree huggers that don't understand the benefits of radiation? Aside from the "discovery" it fails to mention, what happened to the fish? Or those fish that were above the accepted level but not record breakers? Guess in another 18 months a glimmer of truth might emerge about the cancer causing food chain...or maybe it's a plot from external sources....

  • 0

    zichi

    The results of the tests are on the TEPCO site.

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120821_01-e.pdf

  • -9

    WilliB

    japan_cynic:

    " Correction to my above comment, the standard medical dose for thyroid radiotherapy is more than 10 tons of this fish. "

    LOL, kind of puts all this hyperventilation in perspective, doesn´t it.

  • 6

    Ranger_Miffy2

    What is "rock fish"? Wiki has several species listed. Shizuoka Gourmet talks about "black rock fish" / Kurosoi/クロソイ. Anyone know the nihongo for the rock fish caught off Fukushima???

    This is an appalling story, in need of much more information, judging from the insightful JT questions.

    I'll be firing up my weekly disaster report back to my family, and this one is going to start it off.

  • 9

    badmigraine

    The comparisons to thyroid radiotherapy are somewhat misleading. Let's look at the facts.

    First, that is iodine 131, not cesium. The body concentrates almost all of the iodine in the thyroid tissues, where it kills them. That's why this treatment is almost a magic bullet and the survival rate for thyroid cancer is around 97%. And it is almost all excreted within 2-3 weeks. However, radioactive cesium would disperse to different parts of the body, such as the muscles, and it would have different health effects and would not be excreted as quickly.

    Second, the half-life of I-131 is 8 days. Cesium 134 and 137 are 2 and 30 years, respectively. So any cesium that stays around is going to continue causing damage even after the iodine would not.

    Third, believe it or not, the extremely lethal dose (to thyroid and cancer cells) of iodine is what helps you avoid cancer after taking it. Lower doses leave you with a much higher cancer rate. With the massive, lethal dose, there are few damaged cells to survive and risk new cancers. Go ahead and Google it, this is a medical fact. The cesium is going to be worse for your body, just for this reason.

    And fourth, don't think the thyroid radiotherapy is a safe picnic. My sister-in-law had this, and was told not to come near family members for 21 days, limit holding kids to 10 minutes per day, don't stand near pregnant people, and other quarantine-type restrictions, because she herself was radioactive. She could even make objects radioactive by holding them, so was told to stay out of the house. This was, of course, in addition to terrible nausea and other bad health effects, and total destruction of her thyroid gland by the radiation...now she has to take thyroid replacement therapy for the rest of her life.

    So while the amount of radiation in these fish may not knock the socks off some people, it is misleading to compare it to thyroid radiotherapy. That is a typical apples-to-oranges tactic of radiation apologists.

    • Moderator

      Back on topic please.

  • -4

    japan_cynic

    No Zichi, it was not "life or death" but a rather commonplace treatment for a malfunctioning thyroid. The experts seem to think that this dose - about 10,000 larger than a kg of this fish, remember, which is itself several hundred times above the level of food that is actually eaten - might marginally raise some cancer risks, but this is not at all certain.

  • 1

    zichi

    TEPCO said the trout might have fed in radioactive hotspots and that it would sample more of the fish, their feed and the seabed soil in the area in the coming weeks to determine the cause of the high radiation.

    Back in the spring, TEPCO stated that most of the released cesium was on the seabed inside the sea wall, so tEPCO covered that seabed with a mixture of mud and cement.

    Discovering hotspots on land is easier than trying to find them far out at sea. Fish could spend time in a hot spot before heading off to one of the compass points.

    Fish isn't labelled according to where it was caught but where it was landed. Fish caught off the Fukushima coast but landed in Tokyo, would be labelled Tokyo fish.

  • 3

    zichi

    japan_cynic

    most people have radiotherapy for cancer.

  • -6

    japan_cynic

    most people have radiotherapy for cancer.

    So? many people also have it for other reasons, which are far from "life or death" as you originally claimed. The point is, even rather large doses of radiation are not actually very dangerous. The safety thresholds set for food and background exposure are many orders of magnitude below the level at which it would be anything to get worked up about. Even anti-nuclear activists can't justify predicting a figure of more than 200 deaths worldwide - not even a drop in the bucket, compared to other risks. About that many died building the Kurobe hydro-electric dam and deaths due to coal power are in the million per year range.

    As threats to public health go, it's probably about on the level of mochi-eating, if that.

  • 1

    zichi

    According to NHK radio news this lunch time, the contamination was 380 times the legal limit?

  • 0

    zichi

    The man made nuclear disaster, which could have been avoided, has contaminated the land and sea with unacceptable levels of radiation. Many of thevacuated people will never be able to return to their former homes. Parts of the food chain are contaminated and the most difficult to monitor is sea foods. The cost of the nuclear disaster is enormous.

  • -2

    Heda_Madness

    According to NHK radio news this lunch time, the contamination was 380 times the legal limit?

    It was also caught 20 km off the site and well within the no fishing area. Not sure why anyone is surprised by this story to be honest?

  • 3

    the_edge

    Yea, and the honest fish stays in the 20km zone, so we don't have to worry about the fish from the 50km zone.

  • -3

    Heda_Madness

    Ah an expert. So good to have one on board, perhaps you could then enlighten us with your knowledge of the migratory patterns of the Fukushima Rock Trout...

  • 2

    zichi

    Heda_Maddness

    It was also caught 20 km off the site and well within the no fishing area. Not sure why anyone is surprised by this story to be honest?

    I think the sea no-go zone was lifted to 5 km? But the problem with fish we don't know their travel paths.

    The tuna fish caught off the West Cast of America which was contaminated.

    When it comes to contaminated sea food, Japan isn't the only country which should be concerned.

  • -2

    Heda_Madness

    Zichi,

    I can take all of that on board except for the fact that you can fish 5km from the plant. You can't get within 20km on land, I can't imagine that you could closer on a boat. But we don't know the migratory patterns of these fish but given that they are substantially higher than anything else recorded it's reasonable to assume that they spend a lot of time in that area. Secondly, any fish in that area will be contaminated, whether it be in the huge amounts such as this or the much smaller and substantially below levels of concern like the tuna. There are some who believe that we shouldn't eat any contaminated food. But they live in a bubble and their food and water is also organically grown in the same bubble.

  • 2

    rickyvee

    i will never, never, never eat anything from anywhere near the disaster area.

  • 3

    zichi

    Heda_Madness

    The sea limit was lifted but I don't know if that applies to fishing but it don't really matter since fish move.

  • 0

    Heda_Madness

    The article says it's 50 km.

    And yes fish move, but do coastal fish stay around the coast in one area or do they migrate 100's of kilometres? I'm guessing that each species is different.

  • -1

    It"S ME

    rickyvee.

    How would you know as game and fish/seafood travel long distances.

    Never mind that some areas overseas got a higher standard background radiation level than the affected area and produce. Some areas in England are stilled banned from selling their produce after chernnobyl but yet the farmers survive. How come?

    The way I see it NO mass-produced food is 100% safe as they want the cash and thus use questionable methods.

    Just the world we got with the Industrial revolution, etc.

  • 3

    HansNFranz

    Let's face it - the stuff is being sold here as if nothing happened. All this measuring and security theatre is just to make international observers happy, but the Japanese, like so often before in history, have long decided that it can't be helped, that they have to stick together to preserve the "wa", and even if they all get cancer it is better than to question authorities.

  • 5

    YongYang

    TEPCO didn't tell the truth. Haven't from decades ago. Falsifying reports, tests and appraisals. They've lied again and again, no surprise here, only perhaps that people are and still do defend them and are hellbent of ebing blind to the fact that a lifetime of intake of isotopes such as Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 will give you cancer. We don't eat Japan.Inc. It's the only choice to KNOW.

  • 2

    smithinjapan

    Come on... waiting for Edano to talk about how none of it is harmful... waiting... waiting.... wait, if that guy can't even say it, you know there's a problem. Get ready for these fish to be labeled as coming from somewhere else, or just from 'The Pacific Ocean'.

  • 1

    japan_cynic

    The tuna fish caught off the West Cast of America which was contaminated.

    Oh for goodness sake. Hyperbole much?

  • 1

    zichi

    Oh for goodness sake. Hyperbole much?

    Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed Pacific to U.S.

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/radioactive-bluefin-tuna-crossed-pacific-to-u-s

  • 1

    whiskeysour

    Yummmy !!!

    Has anybody checked the ocean currents where did all the dumped/flushed out radioactive water/seawater/and coolant go to ?????

    THE OCEAN CURRENTS PUSHED THE WATER OUT TO WHERE ?

    If you see dirt cheap fish in your local markets. WATCH OUT

    Mostly all this fish will go to the Public Schools in Japan.

    Everything is contaminated !!!!!!

  • -1

    Star-viking

    Zichi, Farmboy,

    the original research shows that the maximum Caesium isotope level in the Pacific Tuna studied was 6.3 Bq per kg, four thousand times less than the maximum in this news story, and sixteen times less than the new government limit. Here's the link: http://www.pnas.org/content/109/24/9483

  • 1

    Farmboy

    maximum Caesium isotope level in the Pacific Tuna studied was 6.3 Bq per kg,

    That study doesn't seem so connected. They caught that tuna in San Diego, and I imagine not all the tuna visited Fukushima. Their purpose was to study how radiation could be spread, with tuna as a vector, not to measure radioactivity in Fukushima tuna.

    In this article, the fish is rock trout, which are bottom feeders that are typically close to shore. They would, in turn, be eaten by larger fish, and then eventually come glowingly to our dinner tables.

  • -1

    Star-viking

    Farmboy, as to the study - I assume as the researchers are interested in tracking migrating fish that they know something about ocean circulation. Also - where else would the fish get the Caesium isotopes?

    As for the rock trout, what larger fish would be eating them, and in what numbers? Also, do you actually believe that radioactively contaminated fish *actually *glow?

  • -2

    sustainablewhaling

    I see TEPCO is going into the 'fisheries research' business; sort of like the 'whale research' business. So expect two things: radioactive fish at the supermarket and the government raising 'acceptable' levels of radioactive cesium that will show no 'immediate' health danger to 25,800 Bq.

    If it was meant to be a joke it was not funny. If you got something against whale research then take your anger towards IWC. Or UK, Australia who agreed that Japan could do whale research in the first place only to disagree with their own agreement which they signed.

    As for TECPO and fish. Again, if this was meant to be a joke, I find to be rather shallow. Be more specific.

    I am not sure what TEPCO got to say about fish but if you really want to know about fish I suggest you go to Government web pages. I found the Chiba Prefecture one to be pretty good. They have random inspections of vegetables, fish, grain. Though you cannot check every single one but I give them credit for doing lots of checks and uploading it on the internet. Be interested in 3rd parties inspections too.

    http://www.pref.chiba.lg.jp/kouhou/saigai/h23touhoku-houshasen.html

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