S Korean rocket to fly over Japanese waters

Sunday 19th April, 01:09 PM JST

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BurakuminDes at 12:13 AM JST - 20th April

Hmmmm, this will be interesting. I wonder if Japan will start threatening economic and/or military action against S. Korea as they did against the North? Methinks not...
smithinjapan at 12:20 AM JST - 20th April

BurakuminDes: "Hmmmm, this will be interesting. I wonder if Japan will start threatening economic and/or military action against S. Korea as they did against the North? Methinks not..."

Be careful! According to Ossan this is a pro-North Korean statement and means you support the despotic regime, and that you're a Japan-basher!

Seriously, though, of course they aren't going to do a thing and panic like they did with the North, or threaten sanctions. We all know SKorea is not testing missile tech. here, where we cannot say the same with any certainly about NKorea. It's still a rocket launch (or MISSILE launch, since so many pointed out they're the same thing), but since the political element doesn't benefit Japan to create a panic, they're not going to do anything.
OssanAmerica at 01:51 AM JST - 20th April

Ossan: "I love how you so predictably jump in to defend NKOrea as you do >in all of your korea related posts." Hilarious as usual, my friend. Show me where I defend NKorea.

Hilarious or not, a fact. Anyone can look over your zillion posts and see a pattern. You can deny it all you want but facts are facts.
OssanAmerica at 01:54 AM JST - 20th April

Ossan: "I don't think Japan hates SKorea at all, now, but it's pretty >clear in day to day life that they don't exactly look up at SKoreans or >consider them brothers. Likewise for SKorea."

So..... now at the end of your comments you simply cut and paste others >words in there, no quotations, and claim them as your own? That's what >you did in your 'at 10:57 PM JST - 19th April' post. No italics, no >quotation marks, nothing... I know you like what I write and cannot in >the least refute it, but come on, man.

That last line was in there by accident. Something that anyone with half a brain could tell since it was out of context with my comment before it. I guess you're one of thse folks who goes on and on about typos too.
OssanAmerica at 01:56 AM JST - 20th April

BurakuminDes: "Hmmmm, this will be interesting. I wonder if Japan will >start threatening economic and/or military action against S. Korea as >they did against the North? Methinks not..." Be careful! According to Ossan this is a pro-North Korean statement and >means you support the despotic regime, and that you're a Japan-basher!

Smith doesn't understand the meaning of "methinks not". Burakumindes is saying that "No, I don't think Japan will react that way". Smith is the only one who openly supports NKOrea and has a pro-NKOrea agenda.
OssanAmerica at 02:02 AM JST - 20th April

Because he/she did not come on here and answer your (rather naive and >simple) question and someone else did, quite well I might add, does not >mean they are 'talking out (of their) hindquarters'.

Oh so you know the poster personally and know that he/she hasn't replied because he/she hasn't come on here? Or are you simply guessing and it's just as likely that he/she couldn't answer my question.

Clearly your attacking the poster instead of offering up some proof,

The poster made a statement. It's up to the one making te statement to offer proof. It's attacking the statement and challenging it.

which you still haven't for any of my claims (or your lies), is valid >evidence that you lack credibility.

Sorry, but what YOU are doing is attacking me. And you won't find too many people besides trolls who have an issue with my credibility. Your pro-NKorea agenda is exposed. Watering it down with typing ad infinitum doesn't change that fact.
Kwaabish at 04:04 AM JST - 20th April

If S Korea was planning a launch that was not in compliance with international agreements and the UN, then the difference in reaction may be Japan's problem. But, since what S Korea is apparently not in violation of any of the aforementioned, wouldn't it be normal for Japan to react (or not to react) in its current way?
dreamdrifter at 07:41 AM JST - 20th April

@smithinjapan - the "this time" bit appears to be added by whoever wrote this article, not the governmental source...

As for the matter of whether Japan overreacted or not, well that's just a matter of opinion. I can see how a country would react in such a way when an openly hostile neighbour shoots a rocket / missile over it. Imagine Iran test-firing a rocket over Israel..likewise with Greece/Turkey or Pakistan/India. Overreaction it may have been, but a completely normal one for a country in that position.
smithinjapan at 09:22 AM JST - 20th April

Ossan: "The poster made a statement. It's up to the one making te statement to offer proof. It's attacking the statement and challenging it."

Interesting statement, given that you still have yet to produce one iota of proof as to your allegations that I support what NKorea is doing.

"Your pro-NKorea agenda is exposed."

There you go yet again, and after being asked to provide proof at least a dozen times in different threads, you can't, and yet still say "it's up to the poster to the one making TE statement to offer proof". Again, your credibility is shot. Call that trolling if you like, but it's the truth. Just because someone other than yourself doesn't provide undying support for Japan on all issues like international relations and whaling does NOT mean they are supporting the enemy. That kind of foolish logic always loses in the end, and creates more problems with said relations than it solves anywhere. You are a prime example of how this kind of mentality fails.

'Well, shucks! You think Japan overreacted and they're embarrassed (like they admitted themselves)?! That makes you a sympathetic to NKorea! Japan-basher!'

That's that kind of thinking on a nutshell, and on a thread that is more about SKorea/Japan than North Korea (but again, since you jumped on as such...).
smithinjapan at 09:26 AM JST - 20th April

dreamdrifter: "Overreaction it may have been, but a completely normal one for a country in that position."

I don't think there can be any debate that Japan mistakenly announced a rocket launch the day before it occurred, and as such that there was a bit of a case of 'jumping the gun', if you will. Now, WHY, they overreacted is definitely understandable, as I have said. My main point in all this is just that it would have been better for all involved if Japan could have kept its cool a little better, like the US did (granted, not quite in the same position) and even SKorea (prelaunch). They are certainly taking a much better attitude this time around, again understandable, and I think that's much better. However if it's truly debris that they are/were worried about, they still need to be prepared to take some measures (in a collected and efficient way).
Yelnats at 02:29 PM JST - 20th April

Hmmm...South is allowed to launch but the North not? Why?
ca1ic0cat at 09:26 PM JST - 20th April

Because SK isn't a belligerent dictatorship with an overgrown military, starving peasants and nuke bomb ambitions, that's why.

NK, on the other hand, has proven itself to be one of the most repugnant and irresponsible regimes presently in existence.

Which do you prefer?
smithinjapan at 11:30 PM JST - 21st April

Yelnats: I don't agree with ca1ic0cat's suggestion, that one country is allowed while the other is not simply because the powers that be say so, but s/he does make the obvious points about the differences in nature between the two.

Whether or not that's a case for 'allowing' one party but not the other is one thing, but I think it's more because SKorea is more willing to prove what the 'payload' is on top of the missile -- errr... rocket -- being launched.

It's kind of funny to watch people like ca1ic0cat define SKorea by what they are not, instead of what they are ('beause SKorea is not NKorea, while NKorea is!'), just as a humourous point. S/he could easily have talked about how great SKorea can be as a country, instead of how monstrous NKorea is (the latter is no less true, but it's not such a good thing to define a great place).
Yelnats at 05:32 PM JST - 23rd April

Because SK isn't a belligerent dictatorship with an overgrown military, starving peasants and nuke bomb ambitions, that's why.

NK, on the other hand, has proven itself to be one of the most repugnant and irresponsible regimes presently in existence.

Which do you prefer?

And what did you call GW Bush when he was president? Belligerent, arrogant, bombing innocent people, allowing Americans to stay under the poverty line, while building an even bigger army?

I prefer fairness. Treat people with respect and you get it back.
kanadamanada at 01:47 PM JST - 24th April

It's the physics of rocketscience. I wouldn't expect many to understand. Especially here.