Weekly pulls issue over 'child porn' picture with ex-AKB48 singer

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  • -5

    Serrano

    "The blond-haired boy is shown reaching from behind to cup the breasts of 21-year-old Kasai"

    Heavens to Betsy! Heavens to Betsy!

  • 4

    mikihouse

    where is the photo? let us judge.

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  • 0

    Pukey2

    mikihouse:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JLHfuw7D2Ug/UOvf-17D3I/AAAAAAAAqqY/gpK2gxtAHfU/s1600/newslargekasaitomomicover.jpg

    Attention-seeking PR scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  • 0

    Pukey2

    Let me try again. JT not very underscore-friendly.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JLHfuw7D2Ug/UO_vf-17D3I/AAAAAAAAqqY/gpK2gxtAHfU/s1600/news_large_kasaitomomi_cover.jpg

  • 8

    nostromo

    A Japanese magazine that ran a picture of a child in a provocative pose with a naked pop singer was pulled from stores because it contravened “socially accepted standards,” its publisher said Tuesday

    given that Japan along with Russia are the two biggest producers of child pornography in the world, I am not sure what these "socially accepted standards" are... I assume they must be fairly flexible standards only to be applied when the case suits....

  • -10

    Akemi Mokoto

    I've seen the photo and it is not a big deal. No children are being harmed or being sexually depicted. It is just a kid covering a woman's breast. Big WHO CARES?! PS, Nostromo? Japan WAS the biggest producer of Child Porn until 1998 when they started cracking down on that stuff. Update your stats.

  • 11

    kimuzukashiiiii

    've seen the photo and it is not a big deal. No children are being harmed or being sexually depicted. It is just a kid covering a woman's breast. Big WHO CARES?!

    Not me .. however ... There is no way in hell that would be my child in that shot.

  • 9

    nostromo

    Akemi Mokoto

    PS, Nostromo? Japan WAS the biggest producer of Child Porn until 1998 when they started cracking down on that stuff. Update your stats.

    As recently as 2010, Interpol stated that the two biggest producers of child porn were Russia and Japan....

  • 14

    brknarm

    Akemi: So if this was a little girl covering up a man's (lower) front side, you'd still consider it as no children being harmed or sexually depicted? It's not necessarily this picture, so much as the idea it conveys...it's not appropriate for a child to be taken photos with nude adults regardless of how explicit (or not) the picture is.

  • -7

    Pozzy

    @brknarm Ok I agree this does push limits but comparing breast to a pen is is like comparing a fluffy bed to a park bench. Cmon...

  • 0

    Maria

    Thank you for the link, badsey. That is an entirely inappropriate photo.

  • 10

    LiveInTokyo

    I've seen the photo and it is not a big deal. No children are being harmed or being sexually depicted. It is just a kid covering a woman's breast.

    Yeah, a kid covering a girl's breast ... happens everyday. I think for most people it is obvious what the picture is trying to, at least I think it is. I'm extremely happy the magazine pulled it.

  • 12

    ChibaChick

    That child looks about 8 years old!!! And he is in a picture with a naked 21 year old woman cupping her breasts! I cant BELIEVE anyone would consider this acceptable - child not being harmed??! Come on! My son is 7. The psychological impact of making him cup the breasts of an adult woman he doesnt even know just make feel sick.

    I agree with kimuzukashii - no child of mine would ever, ever be in a picture like that and I would like to know what on earth that childs parents were thinking - yen signs, probably. They should be ashamed of themselves, as should anyone involved in the making of this picture.

  • 0

    Outta here

    Yah that picture is acceptable..... NOT.

    In any other country with a shred of morals this would be considered child pornography. But not in Japan.

  • 11

    hoserfella

    The child most definitely is being depicted in a sexual manner. The other creepy thing this brings up is a sometimes unhealthy fixation in this country towards blond, blue- eyed children.

  • 30

    DudeDeuce

    I think the best thing to do is to take the kid out of the picture and let her puppies shine in all of their glory. That would have been "socially acceptable" in my apartment.

  • -14

    Mirai Hayashi

    Oh c'mon!! They're breasts!!! Its not like the child is never going to see or touch them in his life. Although I don't necessarily agree with the appropriateness of the photo, I think some people are blowing this waaay out of proportion!

  • 7

    y3chome

    i wish i was that kid. probably wouldnt realise the significance of it at the time though

  • 6

    y3chome

    but on a serious note whoever decided that the shoot was a good idea does need their head examined.

  • 2

    smithinjapan

    I guess all of us that have been saying that all along are correct. I took a look at the pic and there is NO DOUBT it is meant to be sexual the way the kid is cupping her chest. The saddest part of the whole thing is that the person who directed and shot the thing -- no doubt a middle-aged male -- probably thinks there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever, and that in his mind, and the minds of far too many in this nation, it IS socially acceptable.

    Perhaps even sadder still is that the mag being pulled and news of the shot with a naked ex-AKB member having her chest cupped will likely draw even more demand for it from middle aged men.

  • 8

    SimondB

    I wouldn't go as far as to call it porn but it is very, very tacky and in poor taste.

  • 4

    FPSRussia

    Is the picture photoshop or did they actually have the child do it?

    No criminal charges since this person is a woman and famous.

    Just goes to show you what life will be like for some of them after AKB48. If these girls in the group are not focusing on their education what form of work will be left to them.

    Very inappropriate indeed.

  • 12

    Ms. Alexander

    I agree that it's very tacky. But I'm more shocked that the kid's parents let him do it!!

  • 8

    smithinjapan

    Another question I have is, what WON'T these AKB girls do to sell themselves?? I mean, doesn't she object to this disgusting material? Is she so willing to sell her body for cash that she'll allow a kid who looks like he's maybe six years old to grope her and make it cover material? And what about the parents of this kid??

  • 7

    ChibaChick

    Just goes to show you what life will be like for some of them after AKB48. If these girls in the group are not focusing on their education what form of work will be left to them.

    And the lengths they will go to to revive their flagging careers.

    Is she so willing to sell her body for cash that she'll allow a kid who looks like he's maybe six years old to grope her and make it cover material?

    Clearly yes, she is.

    > Oh c'mon!! They're breasts!!! Its not like the child is never going to see or touch them in his life.

    In his life, no. But at the age of 6 or 7?! And yes, obviously he sees his Mothers breasts - totally different thing. Is it therefore ok to have sex with a 5 year old, because, hey, its not as if she is never going to have sex in her life? This picture clearly goes beyond the boundaries of what is acceptable. If it has been photoshopped - it is in very poor taste. If it is genuine the parents, makers and Tomoko herself should be arrested. I am sick of seeing children exploited in this way and this couldnt be more obvious exploitation. until people make a stand instead of discussing whether it is "that bad" or not, children will continue to be exposed to things they should never be exposed to - like sexual situations they are too emotionally young to handle. Especially at pre-pubescent age which this child clearly is.

  • -2

    ChibaChick

    *Tomomi, not Tomoko - sorry.

  • 0

    paulinusa

    It's not "porn" by today's standards but I agree it does cross over the line of what's usually found on the newsstand.

  • -4

    Hawkeye

    Wow that is some front page photograph, what will Japanese media do next to boost readership? How many takes were needed to get the right shot? I bet that boy will be damaged for life and probably need therapy ending up working at some japanese dairy in Hokkaido milking Holsteins.

  • 3

    João Pedro Mateus

    I don't know if a child should do one of these... Other than that it is just breasts.

  • 0

    FPSRussia

    This is in very poor tastes. This woman should be arrested if she actually allowed this. Very immoral woman. Birds of a feather flock together too.

    With all the child abductions here in Japan. Japanese women abducting children every year.....this picture is kind of an insult isn't it? Look how we treat foreign children. Japanese women use them for child pornography. It shows that they don't care about the rights of foreign children who are not Japanese.

    I'm not going to sugarcoat this. They used a foreign child for their sick perverted ideas. This apparently is just to promote herself. She's a disgusting individual.

    Glad I don't support AKB48 in any way. In such a large group there are more of these kinds of girls just waiting to expose themselves sexually.

  • 3

    Probie

    This woman should be arrested if she actually allowed this.

    She more than likely had no say in what photo was taken. And even if she didn't think it was appropriate, I doubt anyone would listen to her.

    The photographer, publisher, and management companies involved are to blame. Not her.

    You give her too much credit.

  • 0

    Mocheake

    They both need to get some sunshine.

  • 11

    Sensato

    Shame on Tomomi Kasai, shame on AKB-48, shame on Kodansha, shame on Young Magazine, and particularly shame on the parents of this little boy.

    I am appalled by what some of these parents will consent to in terms of barely legal suggestive poses in order to put their children on the fast track to fame, and I am appalled that Japan allows this sort of child exploitation.

    Sadly, this sort of activity involving children, usually little girls, is rampant in Japan. Do a google image search of "moecco" (one of many such inappropriate magazines exploiting children) and you will see what I mean.

  • -5

    peanut666

    How do you know if they are his hands?

  • -7

    Nessie

    Tomo no koto, suki?

    Kodomo no koto, suki?

  • 9

    osakajoe

    I have two half-japanese kids.... they are both very cute! We tryed to put on ads and magazines but they asked if its OK for us (parents) to have our kids naked in theyr ads! We should have signed a paper.... we didn't and our kids didnd get ny work. I don't need explanations!

  • -2

    paulinusa

    I wouldn't go as far as saying the young boy has been abused in any way. Yes, this photo might not seem "normal" to most people, but it could have been a very innocent situation for this boy. There are different standards of what's sexual within families around the world.

  • 1

    Dennis Bauer

    With all the strange lolita fixated, incestious adult manga i have seen in Japan, this picture has some disturbing undertones. What was young magazine thinking? Or did they do it on purpose to get more news coverage, Now all the fanboys will want this "pulled" magazine.

  • 2

    JA_Cruise

    yeah, it conjures up a weird feeling somehow with that young kid, just doesn't seem right. Was the right thing to do and pull the magazine...

  • 1

    blendover

    It says something about editorial standards at that magazine in particular, and probably about a number of other publications in Japan in general that this got so far along in the editorial process before being pulled. If this had happened in America or Britain, prosecutions would have ensued in the case that the shot was not photoshopped, heads at the top of the magazine rolled and there would have only been one career left in the entertainment business for the young lady in question - the pornography industry.

  • 8

    Frungy

    It's a kid in the picture. Kids plus naked adults are a no-no. It's that simple. I see that some posters are confused because it's a naked woman, but honestly it makes no difference. If this was a naked Japanese man and a little girl grasping his erogenous zones... well, I'm sure it would be clearer to most.

    The kid's age is irrelevant, since the intent is clearly sexual. One has to consider the context, this is a magazine that features erotic centerfolds, and this was going to be a centerfold. If the child was 3 and it was going to appear in a women's magazine about when its okay to stop breastfeeding things might be a little less black and white, but it's not, it is in an erotic context.

    Content is erotic, context is erotic. This is clearly and simply child pornography. I cannot think of any reason how anyone could think otherwise.

  • 3

    FPSRussia

    *Wish there was an edit button @Probie

    She more than likely had no say in what photo was taken. And even if she didn't think it was appropriate, I doubt anyone would listen to her

    .Excuse me? Where is your moral compass? Where is hers? You can't make excuses for this. Don't waste your time trying.

    NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in this world could compel her to take off her clothes to a state of nudity and force her to allow a child of innocence to hold or fondle her breasts.

    I don't care how many negatives I get. That's a sick joke. Don't do it. It's ALL on her at the end of the day. She can say NO at anytime. "SUE ME". Tomomi "Take me to court and tell the judge I refused to photographed with an underage child fondling my breasts" It wouldn't last a day in court. Furthermore it would only make her image more positive to show she has a moral backbone.

    Your double standards disturb me. This is flat out right or wrong. In this case WRONG.

    No, the fact is, she chose to do this. ANY publicity she can get. Her name is in the papers. That's it. Mission Accomplished!!

    This woman needs no speculative defense. It's right there. DOUBLE STANDARDS

    If this had been Takuya Kimura with some underage girl holding his Johnson you'd bury him under the prison. Last time I checked female mammary glands were described as part of a woman's reproductive system and those could be considered genitalia.

    Men on trains get locked away and their lives destroyed if they touch a woman's breasts. An image like this could train little boys into thinking it's okay to grab a woman's breasts thus breeding a whole new generation of Chikan.

  • 1

    Jaymann

    I can see no merit in that photo at all. It is exceptionally "try hard" is merely aping far cleverer photos from the past , and has a relatively unappealing model. On saying that, personally I am not offended by the picture all that much (except for how poorly done it is).

    It seems that pulling this mag has been a bit easier than that truly awful xenophobic one which caused a minor stir everywhere except in mainstream Japanese media some 10 years ago.

  • -1

    gogogo

    Child porn the kid is like 10 years old

  • 0

    Yubaru

    It's not "porn" by today's standards but I agree it does cross over the line of what's usually found on the newsstand.

    Boy talk about walking the fence line with this comment. It's not porn by todays standards........doesn't matter if it's today's standards or next years, an underage child should not be fondling an adult woman's breasts. It's black and white, there is no grey area.

    I agree it does cross over the line of what's usually found on the newsstand....so if it gets put in a plastic wrapper high on the shelf you be ok with it? Would you be ok with it if either of them were your children?

  • 1

    Weasel

    Idols who have left the collective have had varying degrees of success, with at least one turning to pornography.

    Well...maybe two.

  • 0

    Crazedinjapan

    Sensationalism at its best. It's obvious the magazine did it to raise attention to themselves. Deciding to remove the photo ad afterwards because it was inappropriate ??? Where was the censorship to stop it before it went up ??

    I'm not getting the logic of using a child in the photo of her doing that, she could have used a man or her own hands to generate ( probably a different outcry from puplic ) the desired feedback she wanted or the magazine.

    The photographer ?? Was it his idea to make this photo ? Whoever it was that came up with this idea needs their head examined.

  • 4

    Probie

    Excuse me? Where is your moral compass? Where is hers? You can't make excuses for this. Don't waste your time trying. NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in this world could compel her to take off her clothes to state of nudity and force her to allow a child of innocence to hold or fondle her breasts in anymore.

    You can excuse yourself all you want. My moral compass is fine. I'm not making excuses for this. In fact, I'm pointing the blame at the right people.

    1, do you really think someone who just got kicked out of AKB48 isn't going to try to do anything she can to impress her employers? Which would mean doing whatever they told her to do.

    2, do you really think that a non-megastar 21 year old girl would be able to say what she wanted to in a photoshoot?

    3, do you think it was her idea?

    4, you think she brought the kid along, spoke to his parents, got them to okay it, and told her management company, the publishers, the photographer to shut up when they said it might be a little wrong to have a kid hold her norks?

    5, you don't think that any one of her management company, the publishers, the photographer, should have realized what would happen?

    6, you don't think that even if she didn't want to do it, her manager wouldn't just tell her to shut up and do it; or that the photographer and producer would say 'it's "art", baby, forget it'?

    7, you think that any young "talent" is able to say what they want to do or not do?

    8, these people have millions spent on them for PR and stuff like that, you don't think they should have realized?

    This has nothing to do with her moral compas. It's not her fault. She's just a dumb girl doing what she's been told to to make money for a company. You really do give her far too much credit.

  • 2

    Kapuna

    I have two questions. 1. Why would Kasai-san agree to it and 2. Why would the boys parent(s) agrree to it.

  • 9

    hoserfella

    FPSRussia - Probie is right. Talent agencies in Japan force dummies like Kasai to do whatever they want. If a "talent" balks, they are fired and black-listed from the industry. By the way, the only talents Kasai has are what the poor kid is holding.

    If you want to get angry at someone, get angry at the parents of the child who let this happen.

  • 1

    Probie

    Some people on here obviously have no knowledge of how the entertainment industry works, and think that anyone "famous" actually decides on what they do to be/stay famous.

    Yeah, it was a stupid thing to do. But, blame the right people. I don't know who she is. Don't care either. I've only read this article and one in Japanese about it. And anyone in their right mind can tell that she had no say in what went on, and even if she did, there were dozens of people who should have known better.

    If you seriously think she's the one to blame, you have problems.

    • Moderator

      Everybody please calm down and discuss this issue as mature adults or do not post here.

  • -7

    paulinusa

    Some posters are making false equivalents here. This isn't the same situation as an underage girl touching a man's private parts. It's in the eye of the beholder. As I said, I agree this photo might be inappropriate to publish, but If you think that a young child (And what if it were a girl?) touching a woman's breasts is without a doubt something sexual or must rise to level of a crime, I don't agree.

  • 2

    smithinjapan

    Probie: "She more than likely had no say in what photo was taken. And even if she didn't think it was appropriate, I doubt anyone would listen to her."

    Bottom line, she could have refused it. SHe most certainly DID have a part in it, and while I agree it is the management and magazine that probably pushed it on her, clearly she was willing to bare all and get involved. She bears every bit of the blame that anyone else does.

    paulinusa: "Some posters are making false equivalents here. This isn't the same situation as an underage girl touching a man's private parts. It's in the eye of the beholder."

    Obviously it's not the same physiologically, but in terms of tastelessness and sexual exploitation there isn't a difference. The only reason you wouldn't see that kind of thing from the same tasteless fools that made this cover is because women wouldn't be drawn to it (and rightly so), whereas a WHOLE lot of Japanese men would pick up this magazine as soon as they saw it was AKB and saw a BIG hint of breasts.

  • 0

    602miko

    i saw the pics, OMG! finger cross

  • 1

    The passage

    AKB48 thrive on selling "images" of girls and the themes include uniforms that resemble school wear. The trend to sell young and what look underage girls is not new, but I'm surprised that regulators don't punish it. You could argue that no harm is being done, but it really does continue to erode morality. Then this picture? What on earth was Kasai san, her manager, AKB48 staff, the photographer, the editor, the publisher thinking? How could it get passed by all of them without someone saying "can't do that one", or even someone saying "you can't do a pose like that". Why, because the continued selling of young children in sexual context as I mention above is rife. Needs more than to just pull this book, it needs some deep soul searching within our society.

  • -5

    WilliB

    http://japandailypress.com/manga-magazine-delays-issue-due-topless-photo-of-akb48s-tomomi-kasai-1121338

    Ridiculous! This is not "child porn". Strange perhaps, maybe bad taste, but "child porn"? What planet do these people live on.

  • -1

    FPSRussia

    Thank you SmithinJapan. You are talking sense.

    Again, you guys are talking Double Standards. This girl is a "dummy" now. So she's not responsible.

    Do unto to others as you would have them do unto you. Alcohol makes you a dummy. Why do some U.S. Military get the book thrown at them?

    FACT: Men don't get away with being dummies but girls do?

    Rules for individuals and rules for organizations? Man gets busted with child porn on his PC and he's hauled off to the slammer. Famous AKB48 singer use child in sexually display FOR ALL THE WORLD to see and she's gets the "Awww poor misinformed girl".

    @probie I applaud your efforts to debate this issue. You raise good questions. However, LIFE IS CHOICE. Every decision we make is our own.

    If she was blackmailed, forced at knife point or gun point then I will would lean her way. If it's just money and speculation that her future would be altered negatively....well....nobody knows the future.

    It takes a strong person to take the road less traveled. It's hard to be honorable. That doesn't excuse the fact that it's immoral and unethical on all accounts. Furthermore, it's illegal. But she's a woman and she's Japanese. Case closed.

  • 2

    rickyvee

    that is one lucky kid!!

  • -3

    anon99

    Don't know if this JT report is updated news (or not) on the situation, but read from my local press reports a few days ago that it was actually Yasushi Akimoto himself who ordered to publish the pic concerned despite the editorial's rejection.

    The same report also says net users know of Akimoto's style of hyping and that this is the result of his "playing with fire."

  • 0

    Probie

    @smith

    Bottom line, she could have refused it. SHe most certainly DID have a part in it, and while I agree it is the management and magazine that probably pushed it on her, clearly she was willing to bare all and get involved. She bears every bit of the blame that anyone else does.

    Yeah, refuse and get told to make sure the door doesn't hit her *** on the way out of her career. Yeah, right, I can see a dummy like her doing that.

  • 2

    Ms. Alexander

    I wonder if this kid's gonna think it's okay to touch anyone's breasts (and get paid for it)! Shame on the parents!

  • 1

    Spanki

    A spokesman told AFP the company accepted there was a problem with the shot, but declined to offer an opinion on whether the image fell foul of Japan’s child pornography laws.

    Japan has child porn laws!!!!?????

  • -6

    WilliB

    I think we see quite a bit of culture gap here. I wonder how many commentators are aware that it is quite normal in Japan for children to take baths together with a parent, regardless of gender? And likewise for parents to take little children of the other gender into public baths?

  • -2

    GW

    It's not "porn" by today's standards but I agree it does cross over the line of what's usually found on the newsstand.

    Wow, just wow! You are right its not porn, its CHILD PORN, clearly some on this board need to learn the difference!

  • 3

    Cortes Elijah

    This is sexual. Argue all you like. If you think this is acceptable you need to check yourself. I noticed that same girl in a AKB48 add and she is showing her bra...Obviously she will become a av model...sick to start with kids tho.

  • -1

    gaijinfo

    I'm sure it was a calculated risk. I doubt they expected to publish this without issue.

  • 0

    WilliB

    The passage:

    " all natural stuff. But how does the picture strike you? Natural? "

    No. Not natural. She is way too young to pose as mom, and clearly this is meant to sell copies by showing a glimpse of AKB48 titties.

    But "child porn"?? Give me a break. That is a different level altogether, I find it kind sad that people euphemize the horrible concept of child porn in this way, by hyperventiling about a harmless picture like this. If this was all that "child porn" was, then there would no much reason to act against child porn. It is like crying wolf. You make the real thing sound harmless by immediately using the strongest term.

  • -2

    LH10

    wow saw the pic and it's really disturbing and THANK GOD THEY PULLED IT DOWN. NOT COOL! it's like those creepy manga that they have in pervert land japan yuck.

    WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY USE AN ADULT MALE?! HELLO?! geez -__-

  • 0

    gokai_wo_maneku

    Considering the stuff that goes on in US TV, which is seen all over the world including here in Japan, I'm surprised this is considered porn. But where were the parents? Anyway, women's breasts are not considered porn here and I remember turning on late night TV in the 90s and seeing woman' breasts routinely shown. Things were pretty raunchy then. Maybe the picture would have been more acceptable then.

  • -1

    FPSRussia

    @LH10 They shouldn't use any children at all. I am curious though. Why didn't they use a Japanese boy?

    What message were they trying to put out there?

    This article doesn't give me an answer. Doubt I'll ever know. There'll be lots of speculation though.

  • 1

    LH10

    @ChibaChick comment

    "I would like to know what on earth that childs parents were thinking - yen signs, probably. They should be ashamed of themselves, as should anyone involved in the making of this picture."

    me: yeah! lol that's the main reason $$$ and probably "ooooo! my son will be touchin akb48 girls breast!!!"

    @Mirai Hayashi lol....sarcasm right? otherwise SHAME ON YOU!!

  • 1

    Betraythetrust!

    This does not surprise me or really offend me. As an older person this type of photo was not unusual to see in magazines when i was young. I am talking about a long time ago though just after the swinging 60's and all that. It appears that Japan is still in a n early 70's mindset regarding these matters. The disturbing fact is that this got through the editorial process and was published.

    This incident should open up a public debate and questions should be asked about society and why this is ok. I think though, that this will all be forgotten about in a week or two.

  • 1

    WilliB

    LH10:

    " WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY USE AN ADULT MALE?! HELLO?! geez -__- "

    Too many volunteers? :-)

  • -1

    The passage

    @WiliB

    " all natural stuff. But how does the picture strike you? Natural? "

    No. Not natural. She is way too young to pose as mom, and clearly this is meant to sell copies by showing a glimpse of AKB48 titties.

    ?But "child porn"?? Give me a break. That is a different level altogether, I find it kind sad that people euphemize the horrible concept of child porn in this way, by hyperventiling about a harmless picture like this. If this was all that "child porn" was, then there would no much reason to act against child porn. It is like crying wolf. You make the real thing sound harmless by immediately using the strongest term.

    I think that you've identified the issue, then ignored it.

    clearly this is meant to sell copies by showing a glimpse of AKB48 titties

    This titillation (bad choice of word, I know) is actually a definition of porn! Hard core, soft core, whatever, it using sexuality to sell - so you've hit the nail on the head.

    Agree that it isn't a picture of a naked kid (heaven forbid), but its use is highly inappropriate, as you can see from the comments above, some people would like to be the kids, projecting a highly sexual view on the picture.

  • -1

    GW

    But "child porn"?? Give me a break. That is a different level altogether,

    williB,

    To be sure its NOT the worst form of child porn, but it is still child porn & needs to be treated as such, we need to try to shut down all child porn not just the worst stuff

  • -4

    afanofjapan

    Anyone consider that the girl had something on between her breasts and the boys hands? Small though it may be, it is not likely she was walking around topless in the studio while this kid was being positioned.

  • 0

    lostrune2

    There's no victim; nobody got hurt. He'll remember this fondly. (And yep, boys do remember fondlingly, hahaha!)

    Though she's not really all that to look at..................

    Only imagine how it is in Japan when you got shows aimed at 8 year olds on Saturday mornings who are exposed to sexual content already. It's nothing new to the kids, heheh.

  • 0

    lostrune2

    WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY USE AN ADULT MALE?! HELLO?! geez -__-

    It's easier for self-projection fantasies and less jealousy too. Fans can project themselves easier as the kid (as opposed to another man) and less jealousy obviously since she's not being touched by another man (purity and all that junk).

  • 1

    WilliB

    The Passage:

    " This titillation (bad choice of word, I know) is actually a definition of porn! "

    Oh please. If that is your definition of "porn", you must live in whole world of porn. In fact, you can not open a magazine or watch a TV ad without seeing "porn".

    I feel pity for your stressed out sitution, but please don´t put that outlandish definition on the rest of us.

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    konjo4u

    How dare a woman let a child touch her breast.

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    The passage

    Oh please. If that is your definition of "porn", you must live in whole world of porn. In fact, you can not open a magazine or watch a TV ad without seeing "porn".

    I feel pity for your stressed out sitution, but please don´t put that outlandish definition on the rest of us.

    That might be the issue you have - you see so much of it, and you really must be watching hardcore the whole time judging by what you are saying to think this isn't exploitation of a minor for the gratification of the AKB48 fanbase. Thats all it is, but as I keep saying - it is inappropriate.

    My sitution(sic) is fine by the way, thanks for concern!

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    Laurenço Iscariot Shells

    Japan has child porn laws!!!!?????

    Too bad they are written in crayon

    If you don't think it is porn, when does it start becoming porn? It wasn't' like the kid was holding them up for her.

    Last year a news caster gets suspended for doing virtually the same thing. Cops have done it quite a bit as well but you can't see the insanity of a young boy doing it? YtF was it in "YOuNG" Magazine as well?

    Anyone consider that the girl had something on between her breasts and the boys hands? Small though it may be, it is not likely she was walking around topless in the studio while this kid was being positioned.

    Next summer I'll leave my suit at home and walk into the office in my new and Improved "One Sock" cool biz outfit and see where that gets me.

  • -2

    concentratedsin

    this pic is messed up.

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    Nessie

    The kid's age is irrelevant, since the intent is clearly sexual.

    But the kid is not the object of sexual interest. The woman is sexualized. The kid, not really.

  • -3

    Tom DeMicke

    I personally think it's photoshopped. I was watching "Cool Japan" a few months back and they were having a discussion on "family" and one of the things they actually showed was a Japanese father in a bath tub with his son about age 3 and his daughter around age 9! Yes, 9! It's [I guess] sociably acceptable here to sit in a tub with a 9 year old girl? In Europe it does occur for kids to run around topless (even at age 9 or older) in the house or in the yard. In the United States that father would have been charged if authorities were to find out he was bathing with his 9 year old daughter. Anyway...I don't think it would have been the end of the world if they were just posing together but the fact that he's "touching" her breasts is a little over the line. Not child porn but questionable. In the U.S., she would have been charged and so would his parents if they consented. Different countries different cultures. Gotta accept it. Just sayin'.

  • 3

    Thunderbird2

    Point is the magazine has been pulled and the photo omitted from the girl's book, so the negative reaction seems to have hit home. More than anything I think the photographer, publisher, the former AKB girl and the child's parents need to ask themselves some serious questions about what is and isn't acceptable.

    Yes it's sexual exploitation of a child... how can it not be?

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    lucabrasi

    I was watching "Cool Japan" a few months back and they were having a discussion on "family" and one of the things they actually showed was a Japanese father in a bath tub with his son about age 3 and his daughter around age 9! Yes, 9! It's [I guess] sociably acceptable here to sit in a tub with a 9 year old girl? In Europe it does occur for kids to run around topless (even at age 9 or older) in the house or in the yard. In the United States that father would have been charged if authorities were to find out he was bathing with his 9 year old daughter

    Maybe I've been in Japan too long, but I find nothing wrong with a father in a bath with his nine-year-old daughter. I bathed with my kids till they were eleven or twelve or so. Any idea that this is a bad thing comes from outsiders with prurient minds.

    I don't mean you, Tom; as you say, "Different countries, different cultures."

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    WilliB

    Tom De Micke:

    " In the United States that father would have been charged if authorities were to find out he was bathing with his 9 year old daughter. "

    I think 9 years would raise eyebrows in Japan too. But younger kids bathe with their parents as a matter of course here. I actually have a friend who had to flee Australia, because he and his J-wife did what is completely normal in Japan; take a bath with their kindergarten age daughter. She naively told that to her friends, and suddenly they were hounded with accusations of child abuse. I am kind of sad to see this wild-eyed puritanism pop up in this forum now...

  • 0

    Yubaru

    Point is the magazine has been pulled and the photo omitted from the girl's book, so the negative reaction seems to have hit home.

    But the photo is going to stay on the web, probably forever. The point should have been obvious BEFORE it was published. There had to of been numerous people who saw the photo prior to printing and what is the problem here especially for a publisher of the size of Kodansha, is that it didn't ring bells with anyone until after it was out.

    They are either immune to seeing pictures like that or worse! They need to be investigated.

  • 2

    Tamarama

    Yeah, I don't like it. It's in very, very poor taste and shows a serious lack of judgement by all concerned. It's not child porn, but it's in a wierd place.

  • 0

    Vernie Jefferies

    Kudos to Badsey3 for the link on the cover. Janet Jackson did the same pose for Rolling Stones back in 1993, but she didn't have a kid holding her breasts. Since AKB48 members are not allowed to have boyfriends, I wonder if they used a kid to escape the pressure of that clause? It certainly would have been bigger problems if they had used an adult male model. It seems to be a no-win situation...probably not a good idea to do this project topless.

  • 1

    The passage

    I think 9 years would raise eyebrows in Japan too. But younger kids bathe with their parents as a matter of course here.

    WiliB - there is a huge difference between a family scene in a bath, and the picture in question. You said it yourself earlier..

    it is quite normal in Japan for children to take baths together with a parent, regardless of gender

    I agree completely., but the issue is sexualising it, which you also confirm when you say..

    clearly this is meant to sell copies by showing a glimpse of AKB48 titties.

    That's the issue, it crossed the line into sex. It shouldn't have.

    BTW, sorry your friends had to leave because of being hounded for having family bath - that isn't right. My sympathy for that.

  • 0

    timtak

    I think the photo is trying to say that male sexual desire is childish, but < Okay, I'll put up with you, since you like me so much. You're just like little boys>. Hence I think that the photo is suggesting that the boy is expressing sexual desire for the woman, rather than wishing to protect or hide her breasts.

  • 2

    Frungy

    WilliB Jan. 16, 2013 - 01:14PM JST I think we see quite a bit of culture gap here. I wonder how many commentators are aware that it is quite normal in Japan for children to take baths together with a parent, regardless of gender? And likewise for parents to take little children of the other gender into public baths?

    I covered this in my post, but I'll clarify for you since perhaps you misunderstood. Children being naked can be natural at times, for example at my local children's center the kids often strip off to play in the fountain. No problem, they're kids. Adults likewise can go naked in appropriate circumstances, like at hot springs. Nakedness, no problem.

    Touching, well, that's also no problem. Kids will kiss and hug complete strangers. Anyone who's had the interesting experience of teaching in a Japanese elementary school will know that kids are curious and will touch, prod, poke and kancho you in the most embarrassing places. Nothing sexual about it.

    Where we get to the worrying part about this picture is that there's someone behind that camera ordering this kid to touch a naked lady in order to produce an erotic picture for an erotic magazine. This isn't art, it's erotica. The kid is incapable of giving informed consent. To make matters worse there's money involved, and the photographer is an authority figure giving orders on poses.

    This kid might not initially be traumatised by the experience, but will certainly be receiving the WRONG messages about money, intimacy and obedience to authority figures.

    To put it bluntly this is all about context. It's like the difference between a loving relationship between two adults and a child being prostituted.

    Those arguing otherwise by picking only one element (e.g. child touching an older woman's breasts) and ignoring all the other factors are clearly not thinking this through.

  • -1

    ensnaturae2

    Sorry folks - you have all been hooked into an ad campaign - sad to say - me too. But perhaps we can remedy it. There can be very few topics that raise passions so much as child abuse and child pornography. Of course everyone went straight to the image to see how bad it really is. Imagine the ad agency people with their heads together - HOW CAN WE GET EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS IMAGE? . Perhaps the image of the girl with the hands on her breasts, - did not have the child's head - to begin with - I do not think the hands actually belong to that child. It must be very easy to photoshop the head of a child onto a photo of a small pair of mens' hands fondling breasts. You have all helped to boost this ladies world wide fame, for it is an image and a name you will not forget - except that I have told you how you are being used, and you might try harder to forget now. I hope so..

  • 0

    hoserfella

    ensnaturae2 - ah, the Youtube generation, who are so terrified of believing in reality that they brand everything as fake or conspiratorial. Tough way to go through life.

  • 0

    Kabukilover

    I suppose this photograph was meant to be "cute* but it is anything but that.

    I am concerned that the little boy in photograph will be traumatized or at least deeply confused by the experience. Childhood sexuality is a fact of life. In its early stages it does not need any more confusion than it already has. I wonder where the boy's parent's commonsense was when they agreed to this photo shoot. I also wonder what the people who created this photograph were using for brains.

    I note that the boy is a curly-head blond. He may have Japanese citizenship for all that I know, but his use sends (possibly untended) messages about non-Japanese that I am not comfortable with.

    I do not like censorship. In this case, however, I feel only relief for all concerned that this issue was pulled.

  • 0

    oikawa

    Anyone who participated in the making of this should be prosecuted. Including the talentless bint herself. You don't pick and choose what's child porn and what isn't when a child and an adult are in a sexual situation together.

  • -1

    WilliB

    oikawa:

    I am afraid the only "sexual situation" is in your mind here.

  • 0

    WilliB

    oikawa:

    I did not see a "sexual situation" in the photo. Inappropriate? OK, I go with that. But to imagine a "sexual situation" really takes an active mind.

  • 2

    UsagitoSaru

    I think some of you are not understanding..this is not about breasts being exposed so using the "come on it's just breasts!" thing does not work here..this is a small child around the age of 7 with his hands over an adult woman's bare chest this is not something you expose a child too. If a young boy had SEEN the breasts then I wouldn't think it was too horrible but now he is holding the woman's breasts in a manner that is not normal for a child to be doing. A young boy should not be holding this woman's breasts. An adult man sure whatever but not a small child who barely understands his own body at this point much less an adult woman's body.

  • 0

    Kabukilover

    Let's not be naive. Someone holding someone else's breasts is sexual. I am not a prude. The liked the similar pose with Janet Jackson and a grown man (who I have to assume knew what he was doing). It is different with a little boy. I also worry about the sort of bullying he'll get at school now.

  • 1

    Fadamor

    Just wondering... do mothers still bathe with their kids at the age that kid apparently is? If so, that's probably why they felt they could use the picture. They would feel the kid has seen breasts on a daily basis, so this pose would be no big deal.

    The "provocative pose" the article talks about simply isn't. The kid's acting as a visual shield by covering the nipples with his hands, not trying to stimulate the girl or the viewer. It's the GIRL who's in a provocative pose by posing topless.

    The article also took some liberties with describing the girl. The article describes her as "naked" when you can only see her from the midriff-up. For all we know she could just be topless and fully dressed from the waist down.

  • 0

    Serrano

    The kid looks to be around ten. Let's say he's ten. Eight years from now, there wouldn't be any problem, right? But wait, this is Japan, he'd have to wait 2 more years until he's 20.

  • 2

    Serrano

    "I also worry about the sort of bullying he'll get at school now"

    That sort of bullying would be "Please, oh please, let me sub for you on your next job!"

  • -1

    oikawa

    WilliB Why is it inappropriate then? If it's not sexual what else could be wrong with it? If you don't see anything that is considered "sexual" occurring in that photo then go in to work tomorrow, grab a woman, take her top off and grab her breasts. I'm sure you'll have no problems.

  • 1

    Laurenço Iscariot Shells

    The "provocative pose" the article talks about simply isn't. The kid's acting as a visual shield by covering the nipples with his hands, not trying to stimulate the girl or the viewer. It's the GIRL who's in a provocative pose by posing topless.

    I think a far less uncomfortable yet equally effective "nipple shield" would have been some pasties, not some young boys hands. It's just plain used underwear sniffing weirdness at it's best but something far more sinister at it's worst. If some girl was covering some guy's beenie weenies that picture would have not even been taken.

    Just wondering... do mothers still bathe with their kids at the age that kid apparently is? If so, that's probably why they felt they could use the picture. They would feel the kid has seen breasts on a daily basis, so this pose would be no big deal.

    1) Not kid's mom. 2) Kid probably doesn't act as a makeshift bra for okasan when a random photographer shows up during bath time 3) Isn't bath time a private bonding moment with the fam at least before trips to the onsen?

  • 1

    Frungy

    SerranoJan. 16, 2013 - 10:50PM JST That sort of bullying would be "Please, oh please, let me sub for you on your next job!"

    This is a very worrying and irresponsible comment. In effect that you're saying that a male child being sexually abused by a mature woman isn't something bad, and that he'll be envied by his peers. That's a deeply disturbing position to take, and what's even more disturbing is that its such a widely held belief, that male children can't be raped by women, because "they want it", and "they'll be the envy of their friends".

    Let me set you straight, this sort of early sexual context for children, male or female, distorts their views about sex and relationships for their whole lives, has been linked to substance abuse, low self-esteem, and a mass of other psychological problems in later life, and closely resembles the profile of someone who has been repeatedly raped.

    This is a crime.

  • 3

    beowulf

    The photo looks photoshopped to me. Obviously inappropriate given sensibilities these days, but I think calling it pornography is a stretch.

  • 1

    Fadamor

    I think a far less uncomfortable yet equally effective "nipple shield" would have been some pasties, not some young boys hands. It's just plain used underwear sniffing weirdness at it's best but something far more sinister at it's worst. If some girl was covering some guy's beenie weenies that picture would have not even been taken.

    I guess you mean "uncomfortable for me" because the adhesive on a set of pasties would certainly be more uncomfortable than hands which leave no residue. As for "underwear sniffing weirdness"... where did THAT come from? In Japan, photos of guys' OR gals' genitals are not allowed (at least not without mosaic), so your statement is true,but not really applicable here.

    To sum it up: the girl has her photo taken topless from the midriff-up and the kid reaches around from behind to block the view of the nipples with his hands. The only question I have is why they felt the kid needed to be in the shot. Usually they try to have the photo match the title somehow, but "Do you like Tomo"? doesn't appear to need a kid in the shot. A confusing choice, but I just don't think it would qualify as "child porn" (and that maybe why the headine puts "child porn" in quotes as well).

    1) Not kid's mom. 2) Kid probably doesn't act as a makeshift bra for okasan when a random photographer shows up during bath time 3) Isn't bath time a private bonding moment with the fam at least before trips to the onsen?

    All valid points. But I was just trying to figure out how the photo counts as "child pornography". You're not contributing to the delinquency of a minor because the kid has already been looking at breasts daily. I imagine at SOME point the kid touched his mother's breasts, so this photo op didn't introduce anything new to the child he hasn't experienced before.

  • 2

    Fadamor

    This is a very worrying and irresponsible comment. In effect that you're saying that a male child being sexually abused by a mature woman isn't something bad, and that he'll be envied by his peers.

    Being sexually abused?? Have you LOOKED at the photo? She isn't even turned his way!

  • 0

    Kobuta Chan

    Damn! They magazine should use me instead of goddamn kid. I saw the picture. The kid was covering her nipples with his small hands. I don't know whether it's child sexual abuse or not but it's unappropriated for using child in that kind of picture. The picture is purportedly using for nude and so the magazine should no use child in this way. Also Japan has obsessive with blond hair and blue eyes.

  • 0

    Thomas Carroll

    When I was a young lad I would have been blushing to cup her breasts, boys are nasty!

  • 0

    Kyoko Sakata

    Our children are already hypersexualized in societies around the world. No need to photograph it and then sell it. I'd like to point out, too, how many of us were introduced to porn as young children or teens because of TV channels showing it at night or a careless parent didn't hide their magazine? Anyway, the child has been introduced to this. I feel for his parents having to try to yank back his innocence...unless they themselves feel "well, he would have to find out about sexuality at some point."

    I say preserve innocence as long as possible...even with sexual matters full grown adults can't mentally handle it and have serious issues.

  • 0

    Cortes Elijah

    @Lucabrasi 12 is a bit too old mate. Yeah you might be fine with it but what about your kids?

    I like this argument. As most people have said it was not a good picture. If it was acceptable then why did it get slammed and pulled? Hmmmm.

  • 0

    ChibaChick

    so this photo op didn't introduce anything new to the child he hasn't experienced before.

    A full grown adult womans breasts he was told to touch and cup and pose for a photo doing? How many 6-7 year old boys (this kid is definitely not 10 - he looks the same age as my 6 year old boy)do this as a matter of course?

    It makes no difference whether she is looking at him or not. Abuse doesnt have to be physical. We caught a disgusting pervert showing our 2 year old porn on a plane once. He sat next to her, opened his magazine and made sure she got a good eyefull - and it was hardcore. it happened for a few seconds before we noticed and I have never seen my husband so angry. Was that abusive? We certainly thought so.

    Yes of course there are various degrees of abuse, but to say having a 6 year old pose for a photo with his hands on a strange womans breasts is not somehow psychologically abusive - well, I am sorry if people dont agree with me, and with all due respect to other peoples opinions, as a mother of a 6 year old boy I would consider that highly abusive to him. It was cause him confusion, shame and embarrassment, and expose him to feelings I dont think he should be exposed to at such a young age.

    An onsen or a family bath is a totally different thing - unless at an onsen he was encouraged to go up and grope a naked stranger while someone took pictures. That would be shocking and abusive and people would be calling for his parents blood if it happened - so whats the difference here?

  • -3

    Probie

    Sorry folks - you have all been hooked into an ad campaign - sad to say - me too. But perhaps we can remedy it. There can be very few topics that raise passions so much as child abuse and child pornography. Of course everyone went straight to the image to see how bad it really is. Imagine the ad agency people with their heads together - HOW CAN WE GET EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS IMAGE? . Perhaps the image of the girl with the hands on her breasts, - did not have the child's head - to begin with - I do not think the hands actually belong to that child. It must be very easy to photoshop the head of a child onto a photo of a small pair of mens' hands fondling breasts. You have all helped to boost this ladies world wide fame, for it is an image and a name you will not forget - except that I have told you how you are being used, and you might try harder to forget now. I hope so..

    Are you Alex Jones? "It's a psy-op, folks! New world order, the Bilderburg group. Google it, folks, infowars.com".

  • 0

    Nessie

    It is different with a little boy. I also worry about the sort of bullying he'll get at school now.

    Bullying? You mean high-fives.

    I'm worried the boy is being objectified. He is litterally, a human bra. Sexualized? Not so much.

  • 0

    megosaa

    when i was reading this yesterday, i tsk'd and shook my head in disbelieve. today i was thinking, like really think.. people whom are dirty minded would be outrageous with articles like this, because of what ran through their heads after reading or even looking at the said photo. right, the "innocent" kid was not doing anything sexual, he was merely asked to "pose" for a photo and i am sure he did just that. now, i mentioned "innocent" because IF he knew doing that pose would be "yarashii" he would not have done it I supposed. as in Adam & Eve with their fig leaves after tasting the apple. so no. i don't see anything "dirty" at all with the picture, artistic wise it could be better but explicit wise - NO.

  • 1

    ensnaturae2

    Horsefella! ... ref your 'youtube generation' comment - together with your destructive observations about talent agencies in general and the 'unhealthy fixations' of Japan, have small basis in rational thought. Ad agencies have a job to do. ie - to advertise, which in this case, given that this agency has created a sensational multi million crowd puller, it could be said to have sensationally - succeeded. At least - as long as the debate about the image continues, which obligingly we all continue to do. Whether the woman has talent or not is immaterial. Im quite sure that the agency knew very well, that it took a great risk in including the childs 'head' in the image - I think it very unlikely that they took the greater risk of getting the child to actually fondle the womans breasts. Possible, but unlikely. The 'head' looks (quite clearly) photoshopped to me. Within a few months they will know if their sensational advertisement worked successfully or not. Thats to say - will the woman be instantly recognized and known worldwide long enough to promote whatever talent she would like to offer - or will she simply fall by the wayside as party to abuse of youngster? . Whatever the outcome may be - there will be ad agencies all over the world waiting to see it - and meanwhile, thinking of new, ever more 'on the edge' publicly offensive, attention getting, paths to take. You and I in continuing to think and write about this image are helping those ad agencies. except that I am pointing to motives, while In diverting the attack onto me, the child's parents, and 'Japan' etc - you support their cause. Are you perhaps, in the industry yourself? I think you might very well be.

  • -1

    hoserfella

    you support their cause. Are you perhaps, in the industry yourself? I think you might very well be.

    ensnaturae2 - Yeah, you're right. I don't know what I was thinking in calling the Youtube generation paranoid. My bad.

  • 1

    Fadamor

    A full grown adult womans breasts he was told to touch and cup and pose for a photo doing? How many 6-7 year old boys (this kid is definitely not 10 - he looks the same age as my 6 year old boy)do this as a matter of course?

    I have to defer to you on this because you obviously have "inside" information. I can't tell WHAT the boy was told to do based on just the picture. Only people who were actually at the photo shoot would be able to say something like that. In the photo he's not "cupping" the breasts, so for him to be told to do something like that is also inside information you have that the rest of us don't... or did you make it up?

    It makes no difference whether she is looking at him or not. Abuse doesnt have to be physical. We caught a disgusting pervert showing our 2 year old porn on a plane once. He sat next to her, opened his magazine and made sure she got a good eyefull - and it was hardcore. it happened for a few seconds before we noticed and I have never seen my husband so angry. Was that abusive? We certainly thought so.

    Yay. The Moral Majority has made it to Japan. Where else would you find someone who equates a picture of a topless woman as "porn"? You should be scandalized everytime you look in the mirror as you're getting dressed because of the porn you're viewing.

    well, I am sorry if people dont agree with me, and with all due respect to other peoples opinions, as a mother of a 6 year old boy I would consider that highly abusive to him. It was cause him confusion, shame and embarrassment, and expose him to feelings I dont think he should be exposed to at such a young age.

    It would only cause him "confusion, shame and embarrassment" if his parents taught him that the human body is shameful. Any "feelings" he has at that age aren't happening unless someone has already introduced him to sexual encounters - either via actual porn (not the pseudo-porn you believe in) or witnessing actual sex by his parents or older siblings.

  • 0

    Stranger_in_a_Strange_Land

    Not child porn. Not a big deal. Not even an interesting photograph. Lots of of overreaction here.

    Someone said something about the "psychological impact" of the boy hold the breats of a woman he doesn't know. LOL!!!!!! People these days will use any excuse to throw a fit of moral outrage.

  • -2

    ChibaChick

    Any "feelings" he has at that age aren't happening unless someone has already introduced him to sexual encounters - either via actual porn (not the pseudo-porn you believe in) or witnessing actual sex by his parents or older siblings.

    Absolutely not true as anyone with young children would know - they are curious and explore themselves even younger than this age.

    I never said a topless woman was porn. Topless woman - no big deal at all. Topless woman with young child cupping breasts (of course thats what he was doing - if you have seen the picture, what else would you call it? Holding? Touching?) abusive in my humble opinion.

  • -2

    Elbuda Mexicano

    @Kapuna, easy answer to your tough questions, money ¥¥!!

  • 0

    Brian Wheway

    Ok I can see what all the fuss is about, so the young boy should be removed from the picture, and I will volunteer to stand in for him, (under duress) I will hold her boobs for as long it is required to get the perfect photo. If the magazine wants to air brush my face out and put a picture of a hunky guy over my face …well that’s life.

  • 1

    Owain T. Yamanaka

    The picture, while you can debate it either way whether it's child porn or not... is clearly inappropriate. I'm not sure what the photographer was thinking or the execs of the magazine who put their Hanko stamp of approval on this prior to it being questioned.

    On another angle to this whole child and womens breasts... has anyone seen Game of Thrones? There's plenty of questionable material in there which could push the line on innappropriate acts with children.

  • 0

    Wolfpack

    My first impression upon seeing this picture was to be shocked. Then it occurred to me that modern society is forever pushing the envelope - to be "edgy". I wonder if pushing things has finally gotten as far as it can go. Unfortunately, probably not. It seems that when this sort of thing first occurs it is thought of as going over the line of propriety. But then it becomes normalized like so many other things that used to get people morally outraged but are now considered passe'.

    If this is the only thing even remotely sexual in nature that the young boy was exposed to, I don't believe he will be traumatized by it. Obviously his parents will not be giving him the sense that he has done anything wrong.

    An earlier post mentioned that Japan does have a more open type of sexualization of young girls. There is the concept of 'Junior Idols' in japan that is really unsettling. It doesn't involve nudity but puts young teens into skimpy outfits and sexy poses. It is clearly something most people would consider to be wrong but is pretty much in the open in Japan. But using a young boy like this is down to another level of wrong.

    Assuming the boys parents do not allow him into any other sexualized situations, I don't think he will be scarred by this situation. It's probably only been a few years since he was being breast fed. In my opinion, exposure to a woman's breasts aren't the same as exposure to genitalia. As unfortunate as this is, at least their is a sense among the Japanese public that this is wrong. I just hope that it stays that way.

  • 0

    Todd Topolski

    This is a heck of a lot of noise about nothing. Maybe if the kid was 11 or 12 but I saw the photo and he is like 4 or 5 and likely has no idea about any controversy. I was a 4 year old boy once and I am certain I never had desires for the anatomy of any female back then. Even if he was 11 or 12, believe me it would not damage the kid at all, I was a 12 year old boy in the past as well and I am sure I can confidently say this is not psychologically damaging to any male of any age.

  • 1

    Ah_so

    am sure I can confidently say this is not psychologically damaging to any male of any age.

    Agree totally. To even call this pornography is laughable nonsense.

  • 0

    jamplass

    I have to admit that thanks to this news I now know the name of one (former) AKB48 member.

    What is considered "pornography" is probably mostly contingent on the person who is viewing this (and getting turned on). From my perspective, even though this may be considered "pornographic" to some, I don't think it as being overtly sexualized. I think the photographer meant it to be "cute" first and "sexy" second. That appears to be the trademark of most Japanese soft porn anyway. If the boy had been an adult it would not have been cute, but it would have definitely become more sexualized and at least to me "pornographic".

    Is this exploitation of children? Probably. Abuse? We don't know the circumstances of how this was photographed. If both the child and his parents were okay with this I might not be inclined to label it "abusive". But I can totally understand how some parents might see it that way.

  • 1

    Daijoboots

    What is considered "pornography" is probably mostly contingent on the person who is viewing this

    Something called law also has a say in it. Japanese child pornography law covers the touching by children of genitals or breasts.

  • 0

    Fernando Alonso

    I just wonder if Kodansha would have made that shot with a japanese boy.

  • 0

    Fernando Alonso

    What I mean is that this is obviously WRONG, but it seems that we are less aware of the wrong when this happens far away from us in an 'exotic' country. We just have to change nationalities in the photograph, not genres or ages. If we put in the picture somebody closer to us let see if that changes (only for people that don't see this shot a big deal). I was wondering why they picked a foreign boy for it. May be they felt (unconsciously) that if they put a japanese boy there, DEFINITELY, they would have a storm on their heads. Lack of discretion in any case.

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    Guza!

    well what if the kid was brought up to be a naturism, or nudist? im sure he didnt mean any kind of devious behavior by such a thing, in his world as a nudist seeing nudity would probably not phase him. but thats just what if, granted i dont know too many naturalists id supposed id call it, or maybe she started it into naturalism lol. Either way that kid got to do what most men would dream of doing lol

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    Laurenço Iscariot Shells

    I see that you are being attacked on all fronts so I will back off a little

    As for "underwear sniffing weirdness"... where did THAT come from? In Japan, photos of guys' OR gals' genitals are not allowed (at least not without mosaic), so your statement is true,but not really applicable here.

    I'm looking at the "double standard" of it in principle. Therefore I do find it applicable. We persecute male teachers that sleep with underage girls but conveniently understand the misguided affections of a female teacher when the roles are reversed. Underwear sniffing weirdness is just a documentary I saw a long time ago on some Japanese men that paid for "used" underwear. It was just beyond freaky deeky for me.

    > I guess you mean "uncomfortable for me" because the adhesive on a set of pasties would certainly be more uncomfortable than hands which leave no residue

    And that is my main painless point. Porn is in the eye of the beholder. If you are a single dude that just rubbed one off to some hentai it is probably more G rated than Disney. If you are the father of two children such as myself you see this as a huge step in the wrong direction. If the photographer rode the short bus to school and just doesn't get it, I still cannot see past the idea that this was planned in someway and all angles were thought out.

    If it really was okay, the photo would still be in print.

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    nonsibi

    mikihouse; Jan. 16, 2013 - 07:10AM JST - where is the photo? let us judge.

    Please Google images Tomomi Kasai.

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