Olympic opening uses girl's voice, not face

Wednesday 13th August, 07:11 AM JST

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TonyUS at 12:02 PM JST - 18th August

Blaze.. First off since you have been enlightened By the name Zhoa Zyang, it seems your back ground on China is not that extensive or just been kept from that information if you are from China, Many sites are available and the international attention the Tiananmen Massacre received across the world it surprises me you have not read in depth about it if you are interested in China. I regret I do not have a list of all the articles I have read and gathered information from to enlighten you more of to where my so called rant and accusations originated from. It is not rant when it is truth and it is not accusations when based on regular activities of China’s government from the past and of the present as a norm. At one time I use to save articles I found informative and interesting about China, believe it or not. !00,000 troops sent into a rural farming area, farmers shot dead from protesting, which I forget the details right now, but there is always one thing after another and it all comes down to the violation of just the basics of human rights.

Secondly I do not have to prove you are anyone, as your words, thoughts and ideas pretty much tells everyone who you are as a person and what your perception on the issues are, just as my words shape my character and beliefs.

You say…I never once said that China did not oppress its people or that it should not be criticized for its transgressions. I don't deny that these things happen…..

Then you tell me to show proof that the CCP belittles its people.. Come on what is this?

Again with this…..we're not discussing China in general, but the decision by the director of an entertainment event to use one girl's voice and another girl's face. The directors decision.. We need to get this straight as for fact…

The article states…”So in a last-minute move demanded by one of China’s highest officials….

Now as you wish to state this is erelevant or that is irrelevent, I believe all is relevent when it comes to the norm of the CCP and its officials to continually demoralize its people. Maybe you may say this is a small incident, but when these actions come to light again and again. It is… all relevent because these actions one by one is the whole, of what the ;leadership of China stands for and yes it is relevent as to human rights and as you have agreed some what in your opwn way by your statement…

I never once said that China did not oppress its people or that it should not be criticized for its transgressions. I don't deny that these things happen.
TonyUS at 12:06 PM JST - 18th August

I am pointing out the connection and the norm of the CCP and to make excuses for them is just trying to forget or ignore the problem with the leadership that has kept its grip over society that has only hampered the rise of the people as a society based on the people, which now is based on those that have silenced them and belittled them.

To take one issue and try to consentrate on it as a single development or issue and try and keep it separate from the other thousand incisents going on continuously in China is a mis representation of the truth, or whole issue. If there is repetition , and If you follow the topic of China, I am sure you see acts of repatition with human rights violations, which all comes down to human rights, any way as I was saying,,, If there is repetition in acts against society or breaches in human rights, then all is connected and this shows there is a problem with this type of rule. To make on incedent seem small and another one just another small incedent is not holding these guys responsible for their power exerted upon its helpless citizens that have no power. This is what I try to get across and for people to realize. That it does no good to make excuses for those that are the sole barriers of responsibility of the belittlement of people and this instance is just another form of the belittlement of the people of China by the CCP and its system forced upon 1.2 billion people.

Just wondering.. What did you think of the substituting the local Chinese children playing them off as Tibetan children for a show of show social harmony to the world?
TonyUS at 12:09 PM JST - 18th August

Sorry typo. 1.2 billion people was suppose to be 1.3 billion people
ProudKoreanGuy at 01:04 PM JST - 18th August

Seems there were just too many things at the ceremony that turn out not to be what they seem.
ProudKoreanGuy at 01:05 PM JST - 18th August

Sorry typo. 1.2 billion people was suppose to be 1.3 billion people

Bleh, 1.2 billion or 1.3 billion - both are still over a billion.
swordfish2502 at 04:26 PM JST - 18th August

At one time I use to save articles I found informative and interesting about China, believe it or not. !00,000 troops sent into a rural farming area, farmers shot dead from protesting, which I forget the details right now, but there is always one thing after another and it all comes down to the violation of just the basics of human rights.

Hi Tony. Would u please tell me more about this? Especially Date. U konw we Chinese have such a long history, it could be 2008 BC!

PS, Zhao Ziyang is a great man, and he was the Chairman of CCP at that time, but unfortunately tragedy happened after he was taken from the office. That is really the darkest moment in last 20 years. But u know who was standing next to Zhao Ziyang when he gave his last speech to the students in tiananmen before he was under hourse arrest, that is Wen Jiabao, the PM of THIS government. So, we will see. san shi nian he dong, san shi nian he xi.
Nessie at 03:06 AM JST - 19th August

A real black eye for China. It shows how backwards the nation is in face transplant technology.
blaze524 at 03:43 AM JST - 19th August

TonyUS

As for your question....What did you think of the substituting the local Chinese children playing them off as Tibetan children for a show of show social harmony to the world? ---I thought it was a bad move. They should have used children from real ethnic minorities.
Terrikus at 09:08 AM JST - 19th August

I thought it was all 56 minorities, not just "Tibetan" children.
lipscombe at 09:22 AM JST - 19th August

Zhang Yimou directed one of the most emotional, incredible and lo-fi films ever made Not One Less a central theme of which is the exploitation of children. guess he forgot about it.
TonyUS at 01:16 PM JST - 19th August

awordfish, I did do a search and found an article covering more than just the one incident I was referring too. This is sad and just one of the reasons that has shaped my opposition towards the system in China and why Human rights has to be a must for China and its continuation integrating into the global community. It is for the billion people with out a voice, without power or enforcement of laws to protect basic rights. I do not hate Chinese people, what I hate is the people living under unfair representation. pr no representation on many fronts and the only way these changes will take place is pressure and a price to pay by the CCP if they do not fall in line to society being the main element shaping society in China. No matter the argument I disagree that this is the case today when people can not speak out, or are afraid to speak out.
TonyUS at 01:23 PM JST - 19th August

Proud Korean... If you have not realized , when there are posts against China, those that wish to take a side pro-China will take any miss quote, grammar or spelling and change the issue to that mistake. I have learned that again and again, over the years. So if I catch something before submitting a post I will change it or try to correct it immediately with a follow up. But there are times I get in a hurry and read it later after posted and think, wow I am going to be criticized on this one.
fds at 02:11 PM JST - 19th August

china is a nation of cheats.

they cheated with lip syncing this ode to the motherland they cheated with the olympic fireworks they cheated intellectual property rights owners of their rights they cheated the tibetians of their rights they cheated on their promised free internet access. they cheated using a 14 yr old gymnast. the question is what won't they cheat at.
TonyUS at 02:36 PM JST - 19th August

Terrikus, from all the different reports I have read it does state all 56 ethnic groups were substituded with Han chinese children, Some concentrate on Tibetan Children, as it is a hot topic at the time
TonyUS at 02:37 PM JST - 19th August

Sword sorry I forgot to include the site and report.

http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/19/world/fg-rural19