Giving birth in Japan
If you think living in Tokyo is tough, try having a baby here. I recently did, and though the experience was challenging, I learned a host of useful tips that I can pass along.
Finding a strong support network was almost as important as finding the right health care provider. I highly recommend The Tokyo Pregnancy Group, which holds meetings every two weeks, featuring guest speakers that include doctors, nurses and other experts. Even if you do not go to the meetings, you can stay connected by simply being on the email list and checking the website for notices about events, services and secondhand goods.
The process of getting information often felt like a scavenger hunt. I would research topics prior to doctor appointments and compare notes with friends to find out what I was missing. Half the battle is figuring out what you don’t know. Do not expect to be spoon-fed information — it’s up to you to be proactive and seek it out. I asked other friends what tests, booklets, info they received during hospital visits at various weeks, and made sure I was getting the same.
Do your own research and be educated on the standards of your home country, and compare that to your experience here. Take a birth education class to get a big picture perspective on what you can expect and what you need to learn more about.
I found it hard to reconcile clearly contrasting opinions on topics such as diet. For instance, it’s widely accepted in Japan that pregnant women can eat certain foods like raw fish, but in the US that is a major pregnancy taboo. The bottom line is that there are variances in cultural norms and it is up to you to decide what is best.
Another of these cultural differences is in the standards of weight gain in mothers and average birth weight in babies. If my growing belly wasn’t reminder enough that I was pregnant, the comments about my increased size from coworkers certainly were. Despite falling into the average range of weight gain according to American standards, my increased girth seemed extreme compared to standards for Japanese women. In my last week of pregnancy, I received bewildered looks from people on the elevator in my office building and would be asked by women in the bathroom what I was still doing there in my “condition.”
Also, it’s almost cliché to point out, but don’t expect salarymen to give up their courtesy seats for you even if your bump is visible and even if you are wearing one of the pregnancy badges issued by rail companies.
In my nine months of riding the subway pregnant, the only people who ever gave up their seat were older ladies — probably mothers themselves who knew what it was like and wanted to make a stretch of the journey a little easier.
When it finally came time to spend my six days at the hospital (one day for labor and five days for recovery is standard), I found myself settling for one-word explanations like “Daijobu” when trying to understand important information such as the results of a test or condition of my baby — and then later referring to baby books to get deeper explanations, or making lists of questions to ask my doctor.
I made a few mistakes, such as opting out of a newborn screening test that was required in the United States, but in the end, I felt like my needs were met. The post-delivery recovery period in the hospital was like boot camp for new moms — preparing us for life outside the hospital.
This commentary originally appeared in Metropolis magazine (www.metropolis.co.jp).
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sarcasm123
"I received bewildered looks from people on the elevator in my office building"
Oh, the stares! The stares!!
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papasmurfinjapan
To sushi, or not to sushi
I think this seemingly contradictory advice stems from the different dietary habits between the two countries. Presuming Japanese women eat raw fish on a regular basis, then their bodies will have probably adapted enough to combat the common bacteria found in raw fish in Japan - of course that doesn't apply to raw fish in other countries. I have heard countless stories of Japanese tourists getting sick from eating sushi overseas. Though their digestive system can handle the local bugs, they are sensitive to foreign ones.
Now, if it is the stomach of an American woman who eats raw fish once a year at a sushi restaurant, then it is probably better not to take your chances, since your digestive system would not have developed immunity to possibly harmful bacteria.
I believe Japanese doctors warn against pregnant women eating Cap’n Crunch and drinking Dr. Pepper.
Train seats
This comes as no surprise to me. It's not just the salary men either. I have seen pregnant women on morning trains filled with junior high school kids, bags on seats, playing video games. Every time I politely tell them there is a pregnant woman, so can they give up their seat, or at least move their bags out of the way so she can sit down. At first I am met with blank stares, then they grudgingly stand or put their bags on the racks above. I suppose with the unfortunate examples their elders are giving, their lack of manners should come as no surprise.
I found myself settling for one-word explanations like “Daijobu” when trying to understand important information such as the results of a test or condition of my baby
Well no offense to Ms Golden, but that is her fault for either; - not learning enough Japanese to cope with the situation. - not choosing the right doctor/hospital. If you don't speak the language, better to find a doctor that speaks yours.
Support networks
Despite what many people say, I have found the support network for my wife to be quite satisfactory - comparable, in some cases much better than my country of origin, Australia. The main criticisms of the system I have experienced here is it is not advertised enough, so mothers really have to do the searching themselves to find anything, and there is not enough emphasis on mental support. Play groups, lectures on child-rearing etc. are welcome, but there needs to be more personal support for those who need it.
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cleo
Maybe things have changed in the past quarter-century.
I had my first child at St Luke's in Tokyo, and apart from the doctor being a bit bemused that I wanted my husband to be present at the birth (and even more bemused that he would 'want to watch(!)') I encountered none of the problems Ms. Golden seems to have come up against. Every blip in my statistics was carefully explained to me and I was given detailed instructions - sometimes too detailed - on what to do or not to do about it. The week-long post-natal rest in hospital was a great time to recuperate and get to know baby without having to worry about housekeeping, shopping and other intrusive stuff. The home visits by the local 'baby lady' were also helpful, as were the frequent regular check-ups held by the local health authority.
The train seat problem was a problem, though.
Of course a newly-expectant mother should be reading up on what's happening to her body, what changes she can expect, how to deal with them, etc. It's also the perfect time to take stock of what you eat. Pregnancy was a major factor in making me much more aware of nutrition, leading eventually to vegetarianism.
Bottom line - the doctors, nurses, midwives, health workers are there to help, not have the baby for you.
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romulus3
once I dragged a kid who would not move, even after being asked by a Japanese husband, off a courtesy seat and dumped him on the flOor so that his friends pregnant wife could sit. probably lucky I was with a Japanese couple cause the punk came back with the conductor. However, a host of Oba-sans and the couple pointed out the facts. The conductor let it go but asked me ever so nicely to come and get him next time. after that I laughed at the punk kid who stormed off to another carriage. It really makes me angry that pregnant woman must stand.
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ambrosia
romulus3: I don't like it either that people often won't move for the pregnant, elderly, injured and sick but then on the other hand I do wonder why people can't just politely ask for the seat. Sure it may be a bit embarassing but I've done it and have never been turned down. I stood in front of the person when I was obviously in need of a seat and when it wasn't offered, I ever so politely pointed out my need and that was that. We all have mouths so instead of simply complaining about how rude people are do the brave thing and open your mouth. People are so scared to rock the boat that they'll suffer in silence. To me that isn't strength of character but foolishness. The key point is to ask politely. Other people shouldn't have to ask for you if you're capable of doing so yourself.
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888naff
Yeah I have seen the concerns from the other way round of Japanese giving birth abroad. There are some differences about behavior of the mums for example and how much care they should take of themselves.
The main impression i got was alot of concern at lack of information, tests and a more casual approach when compared to back home in Japan.
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UnagiDon
Her experiences do seem to be contrary to those women (Japanese and other) I know who've given birth in Japan, but then again a good news story gets less hits on JT...
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VoXman
Train seat issue:
I have dealt with this before. One thing never, ever put you hand on a Japanese unless you are Japanese or he's welding a knife. What I use is a fear of violence on them. Japanese bully each other, because they know they won't get hit. But with the Gaijin its different. They have no idea what we'll do next. SO When I have an issue with a punk kid or some selfish Salary man, I try politeness first then I lean over until I am about 1 inch from their face and I give them the big voice. Loud enough to make the hair stand up on their necks,and say Something like "I don't need to get the conductor, because you're going to move. RIGHT?" They move or what generally happens is the rest of the Japanese get their courage up and start complaining to him to move as well. Then he moves because he's embarassed and he complains for the rest of the ride. Punk kids are easy, they respect the Alpha dog, let him know you are one, and he'll move over in a second and gladly bow while he does it. Bringing to light their selfishness also brings shame on them. They will hate you for it, but respect you just the same. Why suffer in silence, and why resort to violence. Speak up! They can't throw you in jail for yelling at a Japanese...
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VoXman
Dealing with Doctors in Japan:
One huge difference. In Japan, Doctors are accepted as some kind of god and their word is bond. They don't explain things well to Japanese either. In the US, its the opposite. Funny thing is many of Japan's Doctors were trained in the US under the same system of bed side manner.
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USB
To sushi, or not to sushi
I always thought the debate over whether to eat sushi or not had to do with the high levels of mercury and other heavy metal toxins found in certain species of fish ESPECIALLY maguro and other tuna
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Ultradude
We've used (and will use again soon) Ikuryo Clinic in Naka-Meguro - quite good, all private rooms, clean and very flexible (I coached/filmed the birth). Regarding fish, restrictions have to do with mercury in larger/older predatory fish and also parasites in raw fish. However, the benefits of Omega-3s, etc to the embryos neurological development can't be dimissed either. My wife ate a decent amount of fish during her first pregancy but kept the maguro and kajiki to a few times a month & our boy seems fine with no dain bramage at all.
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yasukuni
First of all, experiences will differ widely according to the hospital. They range from very similar to the US, to others where husbands are still not welcome. Also, in general a lot has changed in the last 10 years, and continues to change.
re giving up seats, yes it is bad. But wannabe John Waynes like voxman irritate me. Why do gaijin come here and instantly become Mr Tough Guy. Yeah, I can probably beat up 99% of people on the train too, but I have never felt the need to get in anyone's face like that. Doubt whether you would do that in your own country - or if you did you would probably be careful who you did it too. Probably not as bad as romulus "dragging a person off their seat and Dumping them on the floor". One day of you clowns will pick the wrong person - maybe a skinny looking guy who happens to be a boxer or something and learn your lesson. Japanese young people who don't give up their seat for pregnant woman give a bad impression of Japanese, but gaijin who go around yelling at little Japanese and dragging them around give gaijin a bad name. Go home and do it a subway in a rough area , then tell us what a hero you were.
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illsayit
I think more research needs to be done, there is lots of various practioners for child-birth. Midwifery is very much available. Information is there.
Mostly I agree with cleo, when it comes down to it, when the crunch comes, the support that is there is helpful, but ultimately you do it alone.
How bout not riding trains. Never have in any of my births.
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USAkuma
I feel for Ms. Golden, but one thing that seems unclear here is her ability to use the Japanese language or her access to people who do. My wife found an abundance of help in as lowly and powdunk place as Shizuoka, and when we came to Saitama, the local government went so far as to pay us to have our child.
During her pregnancy, my wife received tons of offers for classes and support groups. But yes, they were all in Japanese, so it may be true that everything would be less than perfect if we couldn't speak the local tango, or had friends who did.
About the trains.
I agree with Yasukuni to an extent. Its a sorry state of society that young men and women take the priority seats without consideration of other people who need it, but that doesn't make vigilantism acceptable. In the example case above, were there no other priority seats available on the train? or were they all filled with young punks. If so, maybe you are on the wrong train. In Tokyo/Saitama area, there are women-only cars, I think it would be more possible to find a seat there than in the middle.
But that's just me and my wife...
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Bizarro
Historically low C-section rates in Japan seems to me a plus compared with the US, where malpractice fears probably play a role in the high rates of surgical births. Our hospital here in Japan has a philosophy more on the natural side, and we have been happy with the care.
Just curious about this one...
You do realize that in cities many people don't have cars and can't afford the luxury of riding in taxis for several months, right? What is the recommendation, exactly?
Cheers,
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ren_doi
*We all have mouths so instead of simply complaining about how rude people are do the brave thing and open your mouth. *
Yes, I agree with that. If you need a seat, ask for one, especially if the occupied seat is one of the reserved ones.
On the other hand, I do see many instances of people giving up seats for those who need it more. Just yesterday, I saw a young punk with weird hair and very baggy trousers on the train. When an elderly woman got on, he immediately stood up and offered her the seat. I've seen similar scenes a number of times. This however is in a medium-size conservative city. Maybe in the big cities, people are afraid of getting their butts gang-kicked.
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Bizarro
Having lived in a small Japanese city in addition to Tokyo, I have found the opposite. I saw more "gangs" and overall rudeness from young people (including smoking on the trains) in the small city, and relatively very little here in Tokyo. Japanese friends have also said that there are more such problems with youths in the smaller cities and countryside. Maybe not enough constructive things for them to do; I don't know.
I'd better get back on topic, though. I was surprised to see the author write that eating raw fish is "widely accepted" for pregnant women here. My (Japanese) wife knew from the beginning that she should generally avoid it during her pregnancy. She didn't go completely cold turkey, but probably cut back more than 90% on raw fish (not that we ate it so often before anyway) and basically 100% on tuna.
On a separate note, when a pregnant woman wants to go out for a meal it can be a challenge to find a non-smoking place here. And if you settle for a place that is not non-smoking but at least has nobody there actually smoking, sometimes a group will come in and make no hesitation about lighting up next to an obviously pregnant woman. But that's their right, and I think some people simply aren't aware of the danger. So we just ate at home much more.
Cheers,
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Fair dinkum!
The lack of obstetricians and trained mid-wife staff at most public hospitals is alarming. We have had both our kids at private maternity hospitals. I can't complain about the treatment although, due to my previous experiences with Jpese hospitals and doctors I was ready to take over at any given point!
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illsayit
Riding trains answer.
Lets face it, most of Japan is serviced for necessities. You can climb a mountain and find a drinking machine at the top. If you are pregnant, and the situation I dont deny that there are rude train riders, obviously it is common knowledge, why choose to get on a train, what is the dire need of riding it? The rude riders have a purpose. The preganat womans purpose is what? To get food? I doubt. Doesnt sound like a mother who would be concerned about the child's welfare. And supposing there were a necessity of riding the train, like to the hospital, knowing how it is, you could have someone go with you, or as mentioned, ask to sit down.
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timorborder
In more than 18 years in Japan, I have only lost my temper (with the locals) on 1 or 2 occasions. One of these occasions was when my wife was expectant with my older son. She was about 7 months gone and we had to travel somewhere by train. On the way home, despite the "Silver Seat" stickers on the train (old folks, pregnant women, disabled persons, etc), these two young clowns decided to not give up their seats. I let it go for about 5 minutes with my blood pressure slowly rising. In the end, because my wife was getting more and more tired, I asked these two young chaps the following questions: 1. "Are you disabled?" 2. "Would you like to be disabled?" Despite being of minimal intelligence they both got the message rather quickly and gave up their seats.
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Nessie
Tomor, LOL!
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Bizarro
Funny one, timorborder!
Got your message, illsayit. To all pregnant women - JUST STAY HOME (or within walking distance of home. And if one of you would like to have at least some semblance of her normal life and go somewhere that requires a train once in a while, you're a BAD MOTHER.
I'm curious to know if you would say the same to the elderly or handicapped, that they should just stay off the trains because, after all, "what is the dire need or riding it?" and "rude riders have a purpose." If not, then why are pregnant women different?
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illsayit
No. You are the one saying that. I pointed to discrepency of choice.
And I said, you can ask. I dont like rude riders either. The topic is about giving birth in Japan, how that leads everybodies comments to train riding is off topic.
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