Rethinking U.S.-China relations

by REUTERS

Opinions Nov. 24, 2012 - 06:23AM JST ( 15 )

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semperfiNov. 24, 2012 - 09:06AM JST

**While just THIS WEEK Philippines, Viet Nam Cambodia and other eastern Pacific nations have launched a formal complaint to the UN about China's "new" map which includes parts of these respective countries as "China" . . . USA remains silent. . ............................ So much for USA's purported interests in supporting the 'sovereignity' of other true DEMOCRACIES........................... China has USA by the b@llz because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. **
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realmindNov. 24, 2012 - 11:27AM JST

make an South Asian Treaty Organization SATO. India, Australia, Japan, Korea, and other Asian countries to protect themselves from China. Pass this to your political leaders and make an sensation in your own countries.
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semperfiNov. 24, 2012 - 01:12PM JST

Good point ,realmind!
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Jack SternNov. 24, 2012 - 02:36PM JST

All these countries with their own ways of thinking remind me of the Islamic groups of countries who cannot reach agreement on almost anything.
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Michael P MonahanNov. 24, 2012 - 07:19PM JST

US is deeply in debt to China. What happens when that debt is called in to be paid since the US is without means to pay up?
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SerranoNov. 24, 2012 - 07:44PM JST

"What happens when that debt is called in to be paid"

Are you kidding? The Chinese need the Americans to sell even more stuff to, lol.
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FrungyNov. 25, 2012 - 12:54AM JST

This article is extremely biased, arguing the U.S. side almost exclusively. I'm not a fan of China, with their lousy human rights record, complete lack of democracy, etc, however there are two sides to this story.

The U.S. criticises China for being irresponsible in Syria while the U.S. has been equally irresponsible in the whole of Asia, refusing to intervene to stabilise the region because it suits the U.S. economic agenda for China to be politically and economically at odds with its nearest trading partners, despite the damage this does to the economies of their so-called Allies in Asia, such as the Philippines and Japan. The U.S. hypocritcally continues to trade with China, and the only country they're really cosying up to is South Korea because of a 7.6 billion dollar arms deal.

Frankly the U.S. couldn't be more transparently greedy and self-interested if the ambassadors got, "Will betray our allies for economic supremacy" on their foreheads.

Sure I don't want to see China achieve economic supremacy, but the U.S. must at least do some of the work and take some of the economic hits, rather than insisting that their allies do all the work for them. It's just like WW2, the U.K. did 99% of the work and the U.S. claimed credit for the whole war (even though they were really just there for the cleanup).
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lachanceNov. 25, 2012 - 01:53PM JST

How does an established power, such as the United States, deal with a rising power, such as China. Why, the same way we dealt with the Soviet Union. We break it apart into its constituent elements. There are six countries in China held together by the force of guns and a rising economy. What the US is doing is destabilizing China so that the various ethnic elements seek autonomy. And guess what happens after that? Why, the same thing that happened to the Soviet Union. It's simple. A united China is a threat. A disemboweled China is a worker unit. Don't worry folks. We have this one in the bag, scheduled for 2017. The Dalai Lama should be glad, because one of these six countries that we are now in the process of breaking China into is Tibet, a free and autonomous Tibet.
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Jay QueNov. 25, 2012 - 09:03PM JST

The word "communist" is not mentioned once. Surely an oversight.
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hkitagawaNov. 25, 2012 - 10:52PM JST

The worse mistake of US: Allow communists to buy their bonds. It was not done by Obama but by other Presidents, but now they are feeding the destruction creating a path for WWIII.
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HNLBillNov. 26, 2012 - 12:20AM JST

To lachance

*"How does an established power, such as the United States, deal with a rising power, such as China. Why, the same way we dealt with the Soviet Union. We break it apart into its constituent elements. There are six countries in China held together by the force of guns and a rising economy. What the US is doing is destabilizing China so that the various ethnic elements seek autonomy. And guess what happens after that? Why, the same thing that happened to the Soviet Union. It's simple. A united China is a threat. A disemboweled China is a worker unit. Don't worry folks. We have this one in the bag, scheduled for 2017. The Dalai Lama should be glad, because one of these six countries that we are now in the process of breaking China into is Tibet, a free and autonomous Tibet." * This is just wishful thinking but it is a sad fact that was what Americans have been doing in the past one hundred fifty years to countries around the world. However this time it might be American's turn to be broken up as many states will secede from the union after Obama's re-election. This possibility will be getting even greater as the American government is failing to pull itself from falling off the fiscal cliff. Texas in particular is gaining momentum in its effort to leave the union. http://www.wxow.com/story/20106666/united-w

When American economy tanks even more and many more Americans are out of jobs, the government cannot pay pension benefits to its senior citizens, salaries to its civil servants, and disability benefits to the poor soldiers who fought the many dirty wars the government wanted them to fight.....It will be civil war in the making in the United States. Following the same line of rhetorics as what lachance was saying, perhaps I might add that it would be 2017 when we will see a civil war in the United States before we will see that happening in China....starting with the Chinese funding the Hawaiians, the American Indians and the Mexicans to get their lands back....
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lachanceNov. 26, 2012 - 03:18AM JST

Wishful thinking? Really?
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josemanuelNov. 27, 2012 - 12:27PM JST

North America must reduce its imperial pretensions, and to continue investing in technology to take another century of progress, but not as the great power in the world, but rather as a regional power. Should view Latin America as its sphere of influence and their development together, all America, to face the Chinese domination. http://www.topworldimages.com
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DeploreNov. 30, 2012 - 09:36AM JST

US is deeply in debt to China. What happens when that debt is called in to be paid since the US is without means to pay up?

You can't "call in" debt issued by sovereigns. Please read up on economics before posting such ignorant statements.
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DeploreNov. 30, 2012 - 09:38AM JST

starting with the Chinese funding the Hawaiians, the American Indians and the Mexicans to get their lands back....

Because that just worked out so well for Germany circa 1914, huh?