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Wednesday 24th December, 05:45 AM JST

A woman holds a sign saying “There is no salvation without Christ” in Ginza. She is part of a group that has been on several corners in Ginza for the past few days, playing a recording and handing our leaflets.

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smithinjapan at 10:59 PM JST - 24th December

Alphaape: Nice post, but I DO want to point out that likeitis was not comparing Muslims to Christians and saying the former are more tolerant than the latter; what he was saying is that TRUE Muslims are more tolerant of Christianity than the morons who blow themselves and others up and CLAIM to be Muslim. There are all sorts of countries where Muslims live side by side with Christians, and there is rarely any trouble, if any. In other words, they live their lives by the same mottos you have said above -- live their lives as best as they can and be good neighbours, etc.

Moderator: Back on topic please. Muslims are not relevant to this discussion.
Jesus4japan2 at 12:50 AM JST - 25th December

There is NO salvation without Christ That kind of thinking of "only my way is right" or "your either with us or not" is the kind of thing that leads to wars from these evil religions.

Wow, way to pick on an innocent lady holding a sign..... which by the way is well within her rights to do in Japan. I imagine that you would rather have someone yelling "free beer" or "topless women for your to have you way with" This is why Jesus said "anyone who sins is a slave to sin" You love your wickedness more than you love God.

I bet you don't even mind that Big Camera has people shouting louder than these folks about the sale on that of that piece of plastic you call a cell phone in your pocket. What hypocrites! You all need to get right with God!

I have talked with these people the other day in Ginza and the are as harmless as they come. They go through out Japan doing things that most missionaries would cringe at. I am proud to call them my friends! I am proud that someone will take a stand for Jesus in this Godless land! There IS no other way to God except through Jesus!

I will be joining these people for the next few days and I will starting a branch of there ministry right here in Tokyo!

Japan 4 Jesus! Jesus 4 Japan!
BlackFlag at 01:15 AM JST - 25th December

I am proud that someone will take a stand for Jesus in this Godless land! There IS no other way to God except through Jesus!

I will be joining these people for the next few days and I will starting a branch of there ministry right here in Tokyo!

Japan 4 Jesus! Jesus 4 Japan!

to everyone else who posted "Merry Xmas!"

to Jesus4japan2 "peddle it elsewhere"
CaptDingleheimer at 07:30 AM JST - 25th December

You know, Jesus died in Japan, and was buried in Aomori-ken. Look it up.
NeoJamal at 07:45 AM JST - 25th December

You know, Jesus died in Japan, and was buried in Aomori-ken. Look it up.

..and was Jerusalem, builded here on Aomori's dark Satanic mills?
Seiharinokaze at 03:02 PM JST - 25th December

How about modifying the assertive message into more suggestive one such as "Use unrighteous wealth to make friends for yourself so that you may be saved in time of need" or something? And avoid black and yellow color scheme; those are colors for alarming rather than appealing as in the signs of road zoning and railroad crossing in Japan. Red and green may suit the season better. Also change the font of handwritten Ming-style into Hiragino gothic. And please don't use thumbtacks to pin up a poster in Ginza. Learn from Oriental Land Co, on how to win the hearts of the people by using Western software.
scoobydoo at 01:39 PM JST - 27th December

"Other religions are tolerant of Christianity" is obviously stated by people who have never taken a stand for what they believe and said "No I won't pray in front of the hotokesan" or has never said "I won't pay the jichikai to give money to the local buddhist temple" or just plain closes their eyes to the reality of what happens when people say I want to follow Jesus and no other God. Go no farther than Japan to see what happens. blackflag is the perfect example of tolerance eh!!! Non-messianic Jews often won't celebrate Christmas but many people seem to think its good to take the good parts such as public holidays and neglect the reason which was that Christ was born to take the blame for every persons sins, believe it or not is up to you. Every one serves a God, but many don't know which one, just hope you are right when it counts the most because I would rather party with you in heaven.
likeitis at 02:08 PM JST - 27th December

"Other religions are tolerant of Christianity" is obviously stated by people who have never taken a stand for what they believe

Go no farther than Japan to see what happens.

The Japanese are religious?

"No I won't pray in front of the hotokesan"

So what happened when you refused? Got treated a little cold? You think that is different than if some Japanese refused to bow his head during the pre-dinner prayers in a Christian house? You don't actually have pray you know. Just make the gestures and show some respect.

"I won't pay the jichikai to give money to the local buddhist temple"

That is about money not religion! You will get similar stuff for not putting into the collection plate or giving to charities if you were in a Christian church or moved into a Christian neighorhood (hard to find a real one these days though). The whole thing is more a culture and money thing than religious.

Maybe you can come up with some other things to tell us how oppressed you are? These things just are not making me feel it.
likeitis at 02:09 PM JST - 27th December

scoobydoo--there is a difference between having your beliefs and disrespecting other's.
Sarge at 10:01 PM JST - 27th December

"Jesus died in Japan and was buried in Aomori-ken"

OK.
USARonin at 08:20 PM JST - 28th December

BlackFlag, why take offense at "Merry Christmas"?
scoobydoo at 02:20 PM JST - 29th December

Yes Japanese people are religious, just go and look at the shrines on Jan 1 or look at the meanings of every festival here in Japan, how could you conclude any thing else? Appeasing the desires of people to conform to their religion, beliefs or opinions is what western people often dislike about Japanese culture of tatemae. Doing gestures and giving respect to what? their idols/gods or beliefs that I do not believe in and are an abomination to who I consider my God. It was stated that there is a difference between having your own beliefs and disrespecting others but the inference is that we should disrespect/compromise our own beliefs for the sake of others who insist on not respecting any other persons beliefs by pressuring them to pray (or fake it) in front of their idols. Not conforming to the rituals, in my case is not such a drama because the family is not so into it however, that is not always the case and to think other wise is ignorant and inexperienced in these matters. In my case there is always pressure applied to conform to the "Japanese way". Probably people who don't understand these pressures have never actually took any stand on much of what they believe or that they think any thing is OK. If people don't want to give thanks for dinner etc that is their decision. Not paying jichikai is not about money but the whole thing is about who you say God is and if you really believe it by your actions. I see people say lots of stuff about what they believe in, particularly in religions, but betray their words by their actions which is what its about. Even the buddhist monks who are generally sincere, have become famous for making tofu to taste nice despite the fact that they eat it to deprive their bodies of earthly pleasures. Can you see the contradiction in that action? It can be seen in more than just religion also. Your actions show your beliefs.
SunTze at 03:27 PM JST - 30th December

likeitis at 10:01 PM JST - 24th December If anything Japan should stay with Shinto or Buddhism it has a lot less history of polarized issues with other peoples around the world.. would also make them less of a target for narrow minded extremist terrorists.

I agree.
SunTze at 03:28 PM JST - 30th December

but seriously. What a waste of precious time.
BlackFlag at 03:32 PM JST - 30th December

BlackFlag, why take offense at "Merry Christmas"?

whatever gave you that idea? One of Japan's many great points is the relative unimportance of religion here. I do take offense at people trying to convert me on my doorstep 3 times a week, unfortunately I must live in the bible belt of Chiba.