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The first Boeing 787 Dreamliner delivered to a commercial customer taxis after its landing at Tokyo international airport at Haneda on Wednesday, following a flight from Everett, Wash. All Nippon Airways is the first customer to take delivery of the 787.
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wontond
I went on the Boeing tour last week and they said they were planning on making this delivery in "2 to 3 weeks". I guess they were early for once. I'm really excited to fly in this plane. Hopefully, it's with ANA.
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NetNinja
The Plane!!! The Plane!!!
Gotta give it to them. She's a beautiful bird.
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アメリ フセイン
I want one but I'll settle for getting in it.
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societymike
REALLY looking forward to flying on this!
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JapanGal
The designer for the painting should get an award. Nice lines.
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CrazyJoe
More than 35% of the parts of the plane are made in Japan. The wings are built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. The engine parts are built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, IHI and Mitsubishi. More than 20 Japanese companies are involved in the production.
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Laurie Ashwell
So what's so special about this plane anyway? Is it just big? Which is bigger - this or the A380?
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Laguna
She looks a bit plump compared with the 747 and 737, but that translates into more interior space. Can't wait to fly her!
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Angelina Kogure
What a crappy airplane. The paint design looks like a copy from the Airbus. I don't understand this never ending propaganda about it here. Hope I never need to fly with this machine..
@Laurie Ashwell: The A380 is much bigger than this bird.
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Laurie Ashwell
Thanks Angelina. So why the excitement surrounding its launch?
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Angelina Kogure
Well Laurie. I suppose it's just excellent marketing by plastering trains and buildings with Boeing Dreamliner commercial and never ending news on the TV.
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Laurie Ashwell
I see. First i've heard of it!!!!!!!!!
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gyouza
About 18% more fuel efficient - can't be bad?
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pamelot
I read there's a lot of plastic, replacing aluminum, in its construction...
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cactusJack
Yeah, a lot of plastics...recycled PET bottles and the like.
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Himajin
and
"Among 787 flight systems, the most notable contribution to efficiency is the new electrical architecture, which replaces bleed air and hydraulic power sources with electrically powered compressors and pumps, as well as completely eliminating pneumatics and hydraulics from some subsystems (e.g., engine starters or brakes).[150] Another new system is a wing ice protection system that uses electro-thermal heater mats on the wing slats instead of hot bleed air that has been traditionally used.[151][152] An active gust alleviation system, similar to the system used on the B-2 bomber, improves ride quality during turbulence."
For starters....seems like an interesting plane.
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gogogo
Looks nice, but you gotta think the first one off the line is gotta have problems? I really hope not
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The_True
@Laurie Ashwell So why the excitement surrounding its launch?
that boing out source the Winds to a Japanese company because it was cheaper to make than US or EU, and knoing the Japanese and the pad on the back thingi, you get the History now?
:)
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The_True
ops i mean BOEING!!
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globalwatcher
CrazyJoeSep. 28, 2011 - 04:06PM JST
CrazyJoe, why can't you make something like that or maybe better ones in Japan if 33% of parts are already made in Japan? What has been stopping you? Japan makes the best cars in the world, so this is not a dumb question. Why not? I assure you that I will be flying in planes made in Japan. Anyone has any answer to my simple question why Japan cannot?
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CrazyJoe
How would I know?
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CrazyJoe
I do know the United States Military Government under MacArthur ordered the Japanese to stop development and production of airplanes after WWII. I don' know when the ban was lifted, but maybe this has something to do with it. Maybe.
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wanderlust
@crazy joe - I think you mean Fuji Heavy for the wings, parent company of Subaru, and longtime descendant of Nakajima Aircraft Co, who built some very reliable WW2 bombers.
Some issues with steel/ fibre/ resin bonding and the glue/ process, leading to wings needing to be re-made, caused part of the delay.
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NeoJamal
Boeing 787: coming to an unprofitable air route, nonetheless the flag carrier is still obliged to serve..near you!
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CrazyJoe
The wings (section12) are made by Mitsubishi and Fuji makes the center wing (center box and fairing ).
Wikipedia Japan
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SamuraiBlue
globalwatcherSep. 28, 2011 - 06:54PM JST
It's not about the technology but more to do with after service. An airliner will need various replacement parts and reliable maintenance after service around the world. Something Japanese manufacturers cannot provide at the moment. It's like automobiles, to go into a new market you need serious investment to ensure consumers that maintenance is available no matter how remote the area is. Something not possible without global partnership with a bigger player.
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Laguna
The way they test these things, there won't be any "problems", but it also will not live up to its promise. It is heavier than others coming down the line due to the learning curve as it was developed. All aircraft go through that curve, though - that's why aircraft names are hyphenated with -200s and -400s.
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SushiSake3
Has Boeing’s Dreamliner set a new precedent by being the latest delivered commercial aircraft in commercial aircraft history?
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Serrano
Amazing how the first 787, made by an American aircraft maker, is sold to a Japanese airline.
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oberst
with the strong yen, it's like buying anything with 30 % off.
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SeriouslyCreamy
I hope ANA don't try to fly this one upside down, like they nearly did with Flight 140 on Sept. 6
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Fadamor
The 787 isn't designed to compete with the 747 and 777. Those two planes are aimed at the long-haul, heavily used routes. The 787 is aimed at long-haul routes that wouldn't fill a 747 or 777. Planes are most profitable when they are full of passengers, so a half-empty 777 or 747 flight doesn't make financial sense. Enter the 787 to fill that need. Cheaper to operate and a smaller passenger capacity, so those long flights to less-travelled destinations become more profitable than if they had to use one of the "big birds".
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CHAMADE
As an American, I am not excited about the fact that 35% of this aircraft was made by Japanese subcontractors, when surely American vendors could have offered the same services and parts at the same rates and quality in this day and age of the high yen, when Americans need to be more broadly employed! I also doubt the wisdom of too much cooperation with potentially predatory foreign subcontactors in areas where US firms maintain present technological superiority and expertise. Keeping technologies to ourselves will assure the business comes to us.
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ubikwit
damn, that plane practically dwarfs the buildings in the background....
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Fadamor
As an American, I'm not surprised that Boeing outsourced so much of the manufacturing. One of the reasons the plane was delivered late was the 2008 strike by the International Association of Machinists union that shut down production for 8 weeks. Of course, one of THEIR complaints was the outsourcing of jobs that could have been used to increase the ranks of the union (making their future strikes much more crippling to Boeing). One of the results of the strike was Boeing having to agree to guaranteed pay raises amounting to 15.85% over four years. Just tack that huge pay raise onto the cost of building the plane. So the fact that Boeing prefers to outsource doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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BessonovYan
My congratulations!
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globalwatcher
CrazyJoeSep. 28, 2011 - 07:50PM JST
Maybe the Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution prohibits production?
SamuraiBlueSep. 28, 2011 - 09:19PM JST
If that's the only issue, Japan has no problem to find a solid partner.
FadamorSep. 29, 2011 - 02:48AM JST
I recall that strikes of Boeing. Boeing already received many orders (over 100) of 787. According to what has been reported by CBS, Boeing is supposed to complete 3 sets of 787 a month. That's a great news for a job growth.
FadamorSep. 29, 2011 - 02:48AM JST
I am sure most critical manufacturing patents are all kept by Boeing. Hope Boeing will be able to contribute some to jump start US economy that has been so sluggish.
Thank you for all good feedbacks. Happy flying 787!
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Aakmal999
if face any problem when flying and landing, say your prayer!
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Angelina Kogure
I am not American, but think you should be glad, that the subcontractors were not chosen in China! Of course I also think it would be better to produce important products in the inventors country to support jobs, but you need to understand that is how it works: Boeing wants to sell their planes. Japan sais, ok we'll buy a lot from you and make all japanese airlines fly your crappy aircraft. But in return you should let us produce some parts as well. If not, then we'll buy from another competitor! Simple is that! In order to make big deals, you have those agreements. Give and take. Boeing is not the only example...
I was also angry about the stupidness of a huge European Aircraft company who built a plant in China. In a few years the technology will be completely stolen. But China is a huge customer - and also wants a piece of the cake. You can be happy my friend, that Boeing just outsourced to Japan!!
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Elbuda Mexicano
I have flown in Boeing planes for almost 40 years No complaints here but my amigos from Cuba When asked to choose a new airplane from Mexicana?? Wow! No Surprise! They all want to fly the nice Mexican planes from Boeing and nothing from the ex Soviet era planes.
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