Aso advises poor young people not to marry

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OssanAmerica at 03:26 AM JST - 29th August

noypikantoku;

Ossanamerica: if Japan will listen to you , a big percentage ( almost >half) of Japanese people will die single,

No, a great many of them, in fact I'd hazard a guess that MOST of them will get married when they feel more financially confident. That's because MOST people, including Japanese have common sense and are prudent.

as most of them are living >under loan, in fact 70 percent of the >students in my college (here in >Japan) before are paying their school >fees by loan ,

Big deal, so are millions of other college students all over the world.

(you can investigate if you want) because they cant afford, your "big >already secured job" is not always available for all people in Japan, so >if Japanese people will listen to you and your "Mentor (Aso)" the >Japanese people will be instinct and there will be no next generation to >run the country ( its happening now) good for us gaijins though more >oppurtunity.... ,

I never got a "big already secure job" when I got of college. I had to work for pretty low pay until I found what I decided to make my career. MOST students are piss-poor when they come right out of college all over the world. Very few students come out of school and have a "big secure job" waiting for them. Especially during recessionary times. Also, Aso Taro is hardly my "mentor" and you probably mean "extinct". Which is wrong anyway because young people who act impulsively without thinking things through have a high rate of failure and that includes marriage. Which means that the foolish and impulsive ones will become "extinct" while the one's who used their brains will "survive".

the issue here is not me , dont put away the topic, plus I am 105% sure >that my fiance loves me and not just after my money, how bout yours???

Listen son, go broke and penniless and see if you can support a family on "love". See if you can feed your kids on "love". If you're old enough t be in college get a clue.

do you do quarterly townhall presentation to your wife or fiance to >convince her that you guys are stable???

Daily living standards not changing are an indicator of stability. No one needs to make any presentations.

plus Im fine, dont be like my dad limiting my choices ,

YOU need to listen to your Dad. He's already raised YOU FFS so maybe he knows what he's talking about?

so what if you lose your job and couldnt get a new one since the >competition with other jobless people is tight ??? are you 100 percent >sure that you are already secure with your job now???? what if suddenly >you lost your job and money runs out??? are you gonna tell your >wife...uhmmmmm sorry lets seperate for a while cause i cant support >you,... isnt that stupid ??? ...

Wow..so you think making impulsive financial decisions helps?

ok define security??? nothing is secure in this world buddy!

That's correct. Nothing is 100% secure, but we all strive to minimize risks and maximize the chances of security.

how can you say if the person is already secured and its the right time >for him to get married??? how much salary does a man need every month to >say he`s ok to marry now???

Those are the questions you ought to put to your fiance, and see if she thinks you're ready to get married.

is that kind of salary available to all people??? the answer here are >more government programs like affordable loans,

So you want the govt to support you? Are you a Socialist?

not to advise people not to marry, a good leader should always have >right answer and solution for problems not just to tell and share his >personal options to people limiting their free will choices, admit it >Taro Aso is an Idiot, Japan deserves better leader than him...

Let me clue you in on something else. Under a free market system, the government, even the PM has little control over the economy. In fact most politiians, and this is hardly just Japan, make a big show of "doing something about the economy" when they really aren't in the drivers seat and they're all going home and praying at night that the economy will recover while they're in office so they can take credit for it. A "Leader" as you put it, as in a PM is hardly God and not even your father. Don't be looking to some politician who only truly cares about his political career and personal wealth to be handing you all the answers and solutions. And yes, Aso Taro is, in my opinion an idiot and says really stupid things very often, but in this case he's merely stating common sense. Why you get so bent out of shape over it is a mystery.
noypikantoku at 11:00 AM JST - 29th August

Ossanamerican, : im not a native speaker so thank you for correcting.."Big deal, so are millions of other college students all over the world"... thats the point!!!! because they are not wealthy people and their parents doesnt have enough money for their childrens future without the LOAN! even their houses and cars are under LOAN because they cant afford it without LOAN! and most of them survived and managed to pay it at the end, and without the loan they will be miserable, so it still works, getting married even though not really financially ready will still work ... Im not saying that everybody should get married without financial plans! of course not ! like what i mentioned above MARRIAGE is for responsible people.... if somebody is financially ready and got married , thats perfect!!!! but lets face it ! most of the people are not ! and if they cant they should work hard and be 100% focus , its hard but they still can ... a lot of them here did it and dont deny it ... its too stupid to think that people will get married and will live under LOVE only! that is not responsible and very immature ! that is just your judgement, but people dont think like that, maybe some ... but not most of them.... like what ive said before marriage is for responsible people ! .... Am I a socialist!???... the issue here again is not me , why you keep on throwing it to me??? the point I was saying there is , how can they become financially confident if they cant get a job to pay them to make them one! those jobs are not available for most of the people and thats why they rely on loan , because most of the peoples salary here in Japan will not make you secure right away, it will take them ages first before they do, you didnt answer me instead you throw me back a question that has nothing to do with the real topic , ... plus who said that ALL people who will get married will go and start a family right away !? maybe most of them , but not all , some of them just want to get married and stay like that !... standards of living that you think and what the other peoples think are not the same...
USARonin at 11:06 AM JST - 29th August

noypikanoku... May I help you just a bit.

I understand you're tryin' to communicate but when you use a whole bunch of !!!! that shows female teenage insecurity in Western posts.

Also, I'd avoid capital letters. Whether you mean it or not, it tell someone you're emotionally out of control and have to yell to make your point.

Try to avoid the repetitive ???? , too. You may be a totally rational human being, but in the West it shows that you're losin' your mind.

I don't think you want to present yourself that way.

When Westerners do it, it reveals flaws in their personality. I usually don't correct them except - and only on occasion - when THEY'RE YELLIN' AT ME.

=) 'Tis true.
noypikantoku at 11:09 AM JST - 29th August

OssanAmerica: why is it a mistake for government to think of a solution that will even help and benefit the country ??? im not saying rely on them , but they should serve for the people as part of their job is to direct the country in the right path....
noypikantoku at 11:15 AM JST - 29th August

USARonin: Im not a westerner, and i dont think i should act one to please and go with westerner standards .... think whatever you want to think.... this is not for westerners only...thanks though...
nigelboy at 11:19 AM JST - 29th August

noypikantoku,

Just answer one question for me. If you disagree with Aso's comments, then you must agree to the opposite right which is Young people ‘‘better should definitely get married with little money." , right? Yes or No.
noypikantoku at 12:04 PM JST - 29th August

Its not the best thing to do, but Yes they can.... the next step is what kind of lifestyle do they want for themselves,
noypikantoku at 12:08 PM JST - 29th August

the thing is Im not saying that ! its better to marry young and poor, my point is You can still marry eventhough your young and poor , and you can still survive , if you want .
noypikantoku at 12:09 PM JST - 29th August

plus having a family and getting married is also different!
nigelboy at 12:13 PM JST - 29th August

Its not the best thing to do, but Yes they can

You see noypikantoku. You get to qualify your statement by including such as a phrase as "It's not the best thing to do". However, you completely disregard Aso's qualifications to his statement and you take it at face value. Face it noypikantoku. If you or Aso just stated that "young people should definitely get married even with little money", both of you would be looked as though you were nuts.
noypikantoku at 12:21 PM JST - 29th August

nigel: Not the best doesnt mean its the worse, the point im saying people can get married eventhough their poor , it`s not " Should definitely get married" but " they can get married".
OssanAmerica at 07:51 AM JST - 30th August

noypikantoku

Young people ‘‘better not get married with little money,’’ Aso said >at "an event in Tokyo organized by university students

Aso also said that students should not get married if they don't have alot of money. "Better not" means "it is better that they do not". Which is equivalent to "should not". He never said that young people CAN'T get marrried if they have little money.

nigel: Not the best doesnt mean its the worse, the point im saying >people can get married eventhough their poor , it`s not " Should >definitely get married" but " they can get married".

If all you are saying is that young people CAN get married, and Aso is saying young people SHOULDN'T get married, there really isn't much of a conflict since neither of you are directly opposing each other's positions.
OssanAmerica at 08:03 AM JST - 30th August

Ossanamerican, : im not a native speaker so thank you for >correcting..

You're very welcome.

"Big deal, so are millions of other college students all over the >world"... thats the point!!!! because they are not wealthy people and >their parents doesnt have enough money for their childrens future >without the LOAN! even their houses and cars are under LOAN because they >cant afford it without LOAN! and most of them survived and managed to >pay it at the end, and without the loan they will be miserable, so it >still works, getting married even though not really financially ready >will still work ...

Your argument here disregards the reality that unless you have some money to start with and/or you have a steady income, you're not going to get a loan. At least not one from a lender who isn't going to send a couple of thugs over to your apartment when you fail to make a payment. Having some money put away and/or having a steady income is in fact "being financially ready" to take on the responsibility of being married.

Im not saying that everybody should get married >without financial >plans! of course not ! like what i mentioned above MARRIAGE is for >responsible people.... if somebody is financially ready and got >married , thats perfect!!!! but lets face it ! most of the people are >not ! and if they cant they should work hard and be 100% focus , its >hard but they still can ... a lot of them here did it and dont deny >it ... its too stupid to think that people will get married and will >live under LOVE only! that is not responsible and very immature !

Good. Then you agree with me 100%.

the point I was saying there is , how can they become financially >confident if they cant get a job to pay them to make them one! those >jobs are not available for most of the people and thats why they rely on >loan , because most of the peoples salary here in Japan will not make >you secure right away, it will take them ages first before they do, you >didnt answer me instead you throw me back a question that has nothing to >do with the real topic ,

You're right in that whether you area socialist has nothing to do with Aso's statement. It has to do with what seems to be your belief that the government is obligated to guarantee you employment. And I have already explained to you that under a free market capitalist system it doesn't work that way.

... plus who said that ALL people who will get married will go and >start a family right away !? maybe most of them , but not all , some of >them just want to get married and stay like that !... standards of >living that you think and what the other peoples think are not the >same...

If yo are going to get married, even if both you abd your fiance declare no intention to start a family for 10 years, you never know what can happen. In other words you need to be prepared for the possibility, or rather the liklihood. Besides, you are living in a country where more than half the marriages I hear about involve brides that are halfway on their way to the maternity ward. So your argument is equally entertaining as it is misguided.
hworta269 at 01:53 PM JST - 30th August

isnt Japan suffering from a severe lack of Japanese babies as it is?
Blue_Tiger at 02:40 AM JST - 31st August

I agree in to a degree with the now-former Prime Minister...but really, with an election coming up, was this the best statement to make right now?