China slams Abe over comments in Washington Post

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  • 30

    tokyo-star

    The truth hurts, huh CCP!

    I don't like Abe all that much, but he just grew some balls to say what the rest of the world is thinking. I love Hong's quote "It’s rare that a country’s leader would brazenly distort facts, attack its neighbor and instigate confrontation among countries in the region” - cos that's pretty much exactly what Hong gets paid to do!!!!

  • 15

    TumbleDry

    Distort fact? The Senkaku are Japanese. Abe is right on this one.

  • 18

    Surf O'Holic

    Abe merely stated commonly known facts. Hong needs a tissue to wipe the crocodile tears.

  • 10

    SauloJpn

    Being blunt sometimes is the only alternative!!

  • 4

    Spencer Roger Lopez

    China's going to need some ice for that burn.

  • 6

    smithinjapan

    “In the case of China, teaching patriotism (is equivalent to) teaching anti-Japanese sentiment.”

    What a hypocrite! This from a man who claims 'forward-looking education' requires rescinding apologies, that there were no sex slaves (after having to apologize for claims that Imperial troops did not use them), that grandpappy and others were not war criminals, and that Nanjing never really happened.

    “It’s rare that a country’s leader would brazenly distort facts, attack its neighbor and instigate confrontation among countries in the region,” it quoted Hong as saying.

    Zing! Now let's see Abe squirm as he has to confront people about rescinding the apology.

  • -7

    The_True

    Tokyo-star "say what the rest of the world is thinking" nooo!!... what you are Thinking!.

  • -2

    Laguna

    It’s rare that a country’s leader would brazenly distort facts, attack its neighbor and instigate confrontation among countries in the region.

    Uh, this is East Asia. Helllooo! It happens every day from all sides.

  • 2

    m6bob

    Indeed bluntness is needed to counter the rough & uncivilized way China is doing things in the world. There are so many instances of how the CCP ride rough-sod over small & big countries plus country-bumpkin behavior of PRC Chinese, you just need to surf the net to read about them. Just google - cyberspying from Shanghai; Chinese kid shitting on plane aisle; Chinese kid urinating in HK restaurant; North Korea & China...etc etc. These are multiple acts happening all over the world, so it is not a matter of any hatred of PRC Chinese people. When these acts stop, the world will slowly forget and welcome them to the civilized world. The CCP need to look at themselves before blaming the world.

  • 4

    Shumatsu_Samurai

    smith, regardless of Abe's position, it is the case that China manipulates the teaching of history and uses territorial disputes to rally domestic support. I would also point out that whilst many Japanese don't know the full details of what Japan did in the past, they're generally aware and aren't supportive of that. Contrast that to China and how most people think Mao Zedong was one of China's great leaders. Even the government still maintains that he was "70% good".

  • 3

    Pontepilate

    Sounds like someone is looking for an ally with whom to start the 3rd world war...

  • -1

    bannedacctsam

    I read the article in the Washington Post.

    Abe's tuff man talk and his plan to increase defense spending and monetary easing is very similar to George Bush's policies. Just sayin'.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japans-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-chinese-need-for-conflict-is-deeply-ingrained/2013/02/20/48adbc80-7a87-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html

  • -3

    bannedacctsam

    It's ironic that Abe is claiming that China is instigating problems with it's neighbors when infact :

    Japan has Isle disputes South Korea, Russia, China, and Taiwan - Or basically every country in close proximity to Japan.

  • 10

    Graham DeShazo

    The truth mat sting a bit, but that does not make it less true. China is a free-riding bully.

  • -5

    some14some

    wish Japan had a mature PM.

  • -3

    BertieWooster

    "Mekuso hanakuso warau."

    Six of one and half a dozen of the other.

    Like some14some, I wish Japan had a mature PM too.

  • -13

    humanrights

    Abe is cruising for a Bruising! I am in China right now, and I have more freedom than in Japan. Abe s comments are ignorant and provocative. The end result will be disaster for JP I am sure. Just watch and see!

  • 13

    House Atreides

    China on Friday slammed Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for telling a U.S. newspaper that Beijing had a "deeply ingrained" need to challenge its neighbors over territory.

    How else would one describe the following series of actions, if they are not deeply ingrained?

    On March 2, 1969, a group of Chinese troops ambush Soviet border guards on Damansky Island. The Soviets/Russians suffer 59 dead, including a senior colonel, and 94 wounded.

    In 1994, the Chinese enter Mischief Reef and build structures on stilts. The Phillippines accuses the Chinese of a land grab. China responds by claiming that the structures are shelter for fishermen. According to the Phillippines, China's routine when laying claim to a new reef: first put down buoys, then build concrete markers. Temporary wooden or bamboo shelters follow, and if China is still not challenged, the permanent military forts go up. The reef is now controlled by China.

    In 2006, the Chinese ambassador to India states that all of Arunachal Pradesh is Chinese territory. This is followed up with a military build up, and numerous incursions into Sikkim, some penetrating by more than a kilometer. In 2009, India announces it will deploy additional military forces along the border.

    In May 2011, Chinese patrol boats attack two Vietnamese oil exploration ships near the Spratly Islands. Also in May 2011, Chinese naval vessels open fire on Vietnamese fishing vessels operating off East London Reef (Da Dong Island). Three Chinese military vessels numbered 989, 27 and 28, show up with a small group of Chinese fishing vessels.

    On January 19, 2013, a Chinese frigate direct its fire-control radar at a Maritime Self-Defense Force helicopter. This incident is followed by the incident on January 30, 2013, whereby a Chinese naval frigate locks its fire-control radar onto the Japanese destroyer Yudachi near the Senkaku Islands. Chinese actions threaten an escalation of the Senkaku dispute.

    Beijing fired back, with foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei saying Chinese officials were "shocked" at the comments, according to the state-run Global Times newspaper. "It's rare that a country's leader would brazenly distort facts, attack its neighbor and instigate confrontation among countries in the region," it quoted Hong as saying.

    It sounds a bit like China's response to accusations that it hacked U.S. computers.

    China's military on Wednesday responded angrily to accusations by an American computer security company of systematic hacking of U.S. business and military interests, arguing it "lacked technical proof and was "not based on fact."

  • 9

    Tamarama

    He's just calling them out is all. Hard to deny the facts when you look at the territorial disputes they are currently involved in. Japan is but one.

  • 7

    FightingViking

    @Pontepilate

    Sounds like someone is looking for an ally with whom to start the 3rd world war...

    Funny ! You got two thumbs up for something I also said (on a previous thread) - but I got two thumbs down...

  • 13

    Adhd Chris

    Abe is cruising for a Bruising! I am in China right now, and I have more freedom than in Japan. Abe s comments are ignorant and provocative. The end result will be disaster for JP I am sure. Just watch and see!

    What freedoms do you have in China that you don't in Japan? I'd really like to know, because from what I remember about living in China is that the only freedom you have is to urinate in public.

  • 1

    gaijintraveller

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

  • -4

    humanrights

    I wish JP had a mature and sensible PM

  • -9

    tmarie

    Exactly Smith. Abe's right. But Abe and other Japanese politicians DO THE EXACT SAME THING!!!

    Seriously, it's like they're fighting in the sandbox.

  • 5

    tokyo-star

    "humanrights", you made me spit up my beer- don't make me laff.

    CCP will deny anything and everything - case in point, the computer hacking from earlier this week.

    "humanrights", the only bruising will be when society in your China collapses and 1.3 billion people rise up. Unfortunately you will probably perish in the carnage and it will be bad for a while, but the resulting 10-15 smaller independent states (ala all the xxx-stans after soviet collapse) will be good for everyone the world over.

  • -5

    cramp

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    agree...

    japan disputes - china, sk, russia, meaning all her neighbors ...but really when it comes to jpn, they're deeply ingrained with the notion of rewriting history

  • 0

    Darren Brannan

    Pot.Kettle.Black

  • -1

    falseflagsteve

    People don't fall for this trash. Abe is saying what he wants his supporters to hear, maybe it is his own personal views maybe not. The Chinese make a fuss to make their lot happy. Neither really care to much about all this but they know it will have people on both sides taking it oh so seriously and avoiding the real issues.

  • -1

    yorqan5t

    China army put on Buoy sensors in janan's eez at today This is truly Acts of aggression

  • -6

    CraigHicks

    Surely China is pushing in the South Sea, using flimsy arguments to take what it likes from it sees as weaker countries. Oddly, the Senkaku's does not quite fall in the same category, however aggressive China may be right now. The reason Senkaku's became Japanese is that Japan defeated the Chinese Navy at the naval battle of Yalu in 1894, and so controlled the seas, and few months later claimed the Senkaku's. If Japan had lost the battle of Yalu, they would not have controlled the seas, and a Japanese company would not have built a fish processing plant on it. It's a real stretch to say that it was an unused island that Japan just happened to be first to claim. Certainly China is not telling the truth about the Senkaku's either. But that's no reason for Japan to not be smart and honest about it, and propose a resource sharing solution. Two wrongs do not make a right. Moreover, many people in Japan and the US already know this or otherwise feel it is not right to draw an absolute line on this island and deny China's claim altogether. Why do you think the official US line is that Japan is "administering the islands"? If China is really going to be aggressive against Japan, then wait until they are threatening Yonaguni, or other parts of Okinawa. Certainly there would be no problem getting domestic consensus about that. Choose your battles wisely. The actual historical context makes a difference in the strategic value of the islands. It means it is not the right place for Japan to choose a battle.

  • 11

    House Atreides

    The reason Senkaku's became Japanese is that Japan defeated the Chinese Navy at the naval battle of Yalu in 1894, and so controlled the seas, and few months later claimed the Senkaku's.

    The Senkaku islands are an integral part of Okinawa. The Chinese government even stated in 1950 that:

    The Ryukyus "consist of three parts--northern, central, and southern. The central part comprises the Okinawa islands, whereas the southern part comprises the Miyako islands and the Yaeyama islands (Sento islets)."

    When Okinawa was returned to Japan, the Senkaku islands also became a part of Japan. Were Okinawa to have become an independent nation, then the Senkaku islands would not have become a part of Japan but would still be a part of Okinawa.

    If China is really going to be aggressive against Japan, then wait until they are threatening Yonaguni, or other parts of Okinawa.

    If you give China an inch, they'll take a mile.

    There are some who, for varying reasons, would appease Red China. They are blind to history's clear lesson, for history teaches with unmistakable emphasis that appeasement but begets new and bloodier war. It points to no single instance where this end has justified that means, where appeasement has led to more than a sham peace. Like blackmail, it lays the basis for new and successively greater demands until, as in blackmail, violence becomes the only other alternative. - Douglas MacArthur -

  • 0

    Cortes Elijah

    In your face China. Good on you Abe for standing for your country.

  • -6

    overchan

    I really like abe. Hes the best prime minister

  • 4

    Octagon

    Okinawa or Ryuku was independent kingdom until 1874 until it was annexed by Japan. Japan had no moral ground for claiming as Saint either. Japan has been a land grabber as China. Pot and Kettle will be different in name however their objective of boiling water is same.

    Senkaku or Diaouyu became part of Japan in 1895. If that islets belong to Okinawa, why was many years gap between 1874 to 1895. Japan has always two faces for whitewashing history for nationalist audience. Such as never ever cruel and barbaric imperial army atrocities or comfort women and torture of prisoners.

    Although ownership issue is debatable, Japan could not be trusted according the history. As a resources poor nation, if that issue is settled according their interest, they will claim Hainan is part of Okinawa too. Later on they will claim Resource rich Myanmar. According Myanmar or Burmese experience, Japan is thousand times worse and more barbaric than China. There were countless suffering of Burmese railway expansion In WWII too.

    Japan has to dig her buried her horrific crimes and in humane treatments to prisoners instead of pretending it has free and clean hands.

    if Japanese nationalist movement get 1 cm allowed for expansion, they will do undeclared strike like pear harbor and Darwin bombing again. When Japan fought the WWII, they did not let anyone to know their attempt.

    The fact is many J politicians have not grown up even they are in their 80s. It it true that It is rare for other PMs to comment like street hawkers. It is unimpressive as guest of honor who is representing his nation in other land.

  • -3

    yosun

    One thing confirmed: it's not the US who wants to station troops in JP but JP begged the US to stay. As PM of world 3rd largest economic country, Abe very naturally mention how others treat him wrong/ bad in his father-like country! it's unbelievably a leader openly count on others this way, definitely no self-respect. I only feel really sorry for whole Japanese who have such a leader!

  • -5

    herefornow

    China on Friday slammed Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for telling a U.S. newspaper that Beijing had a “deeply ingrained” need to challenge its neighbors over territory.

    LOL. This coming from the leader of a country that just a couple of generations ago used its "deeply ingrained" lust for territory to colonize much of Asia, including China. Including inventing a reason to start an armed conflict with China. Does Japan not see that China is simply following the "Japan model"?

  • 0

    mkisofsky

    Yeah, that attack on "pear harbor" was something...

    Seriously, though, c'mon. The rules have changed. Yay for human advancement! One could just as easily blast China for tons of incidents in its past as well. Most of us know what they are, too. Singling out Japan for issues during the colonial period seems pointless. All major powers, including China, "sinned" by the standards of this moment.

    As for the here-and-now, it is clear to me that China sees Japan as a vassal state. Regardless of what one thinks personally of Abe-san, this needed to be said in the clear, outside of the smoke-filled rooms of diplomacy.

    And I am not a fan of Abe-san's agricultural policies as I have seen what these essentially unfairly pro-US policies do to local agriculture in other regions. Furthermore, I know a ton of US farmers: They want fairness in the market and nothing more. They are old-school scrappers! Regardless, Abe-san deserves props for this one.

  • 1

    Ichiro20

    Beijing fired back, with foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei saying Chinese officials were “shocked” at the >comments, according to the state-run Global Times newspaper.

    “It’s rare that a country’s leader would brazenly distort facts, attack its neighbor and instigate confrontation among >countries in the region,” it quoted Hong as saying.

    I find it really interesting how the Chinese ambassador can say such things when Mr. Abe actually just said what is currently happening in the east Asia - and his country. Lol.

    They were shocked? Distort facts? -- If i were to confront this Chinese dude, i'd say - Your own country's history is even marked with "made-in-China".

    In PH, all we know is "If it's China, never believe anything they will say - everything is a lie - If they can lie to their own people, how much more to other people?" - it's only logical to think that if their previous leader is capable of killing millions of its own people, how much more to other ethnicity? - and the foreign world will say all this trouble that China caused can be solved peacefully? No - I say a much bigger events is about to unfold in the coming years - it's inevitable.

    As for Japan prime minister. He did great and besides, his words about China comes without saying.... just as the country is gaining fame, it's true colors is showing up. China isn't even a superpower yet, but it opens its mouth way more than US. - In a war you need a reason, just as how China harasses other nation's EEZ by sending their Fishermen then when caught they say it's their waters -

    This is the time ABE needs Japan's support. I'm pretty sure Japan's serious problem is not the economy, it may be showing up now since its the first thing you need in a war - money - But a more serious threat is a battle with China.

    GO MR. ABE!!

  • 5

    Nessie

    "Honest Abe"

  • 8

    Hansaram

    “In the case of China, teaching patriotism (is equivalent to) teaching anti-Japanese sentiment.”

    This is spot on.

  • 3

    Chin4Sailor

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for telling a U.S. newspaper that Beijing had a “deeply ingrained” need to challenge its neighbors over territory.

    Absolutely... It's True...!

    There's not many countries that don't use this kind of "scare tactic" to gain support at home Matter of Fact, Abe Himself is using it right now, against China, to drum up support for his policies at home...

  • 3

    Hikozaemon

    Someone slap me. I'm finding myself totally in agreement with Shinzo Abe...

  • -1

    Steve Christian

    While the politicians rob us blind, the people are too busy watching this circus to notice.

    What the hell difference could these teeny tiny islands make to anything? Don't you people have anything better to consider?

  • 1

    tokyo-star

    What the hell difference could these teeny tiny islands make to anything? Don't you people have anything better to consider?

    Tell that to the CCP, who are on an expansionist road

    Someone slap me. I'm finding myself totally in agreement with Shinzo Abe...

    +1 !!

    I find it really interesting how the Chinese ambassador can say such things when Mr. Abe actually just said what is currently happening in the east Asia - and his country. Lol.

    They were shocked? Distort facts? -- If i were to confront this Chinese dude, i'd say - Your own country's history is even marked with "made-in-China".

    Well, this is China, played as expected. Would you expect anything else from the CCP?

  • -3

    Steve Christian

    I seriously do not understand why people cannot do the simple math of counting up all of China's neighbors and disputes on one side, and counting up all of Japan's neighbors and disputes on the other. How hard is that to do?

    Is hating China enough to deny the truth of the situation? I guess so....if you are ten years old!

  • 1

    OssanAmerica

    Steve ChristianFeb. 22, 2013 - 10:37PM JST I seriously do not understand why people cannot do the simple math of counting up all of China's neighbors and >disputes on one side, and counting up all of Japan's neighbors and disputes on the other. How hard is that to do? Is hating China enough to deny the truth of the situation? I guess so....if you are ten years old!

    OK Steve. Number of territorial disputes Japan has with it's neighbors............4. Numbert of territorial disputes China has........................................17.

  • 0

    OssanAmerica

    Thank you Abe for stating what the entire world already knows but is too timid to openly state. At least now the US media can write it up as something he said. China's response is, as usual, laughable. I hope all the Chinafans here realize that this is all China's own doing. I never would have thought Abe would be back or that circumstances would be ideal for someone like him.

  • 0

    globalwatcher

    http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2013-02/22/content_16248977.htm

    Japan says US media misquoted Abe's words

    TOKYO - Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga clarified Friday that a US newspaper misquoted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's China-related remarks in an interview and led to misunderstanding.

    I am disappointed to hear this. Yoshihide Suga has no balls. Abe did not misquote. Abe summed up about China very well. Abe had a courage to say how it is. Thank you.

  • 2

    globalwatcher

    <http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2013-02/19/content_16234949.htm>

    Obama likely to tell Abe 'cool it'

    US and Japan seem to have different priorities. Gambatte, US and Japan.

  • -6

    avigator

    Even if you have factual proof that these islands belong to China, if you are on the Japanese side, you will not care to your open eyes. Just like some people still believe in 9/11, weapons of mass deception, etc. As a matter of fact Japan had agreed to split the Lyu Kyu islands, (Okinawa), where Okinawa and northern islands would belong to Japan. China would keep the Yaeyama and Miyako islands. Japan also agreed that the Spratleys belonged to China. This was mediated by US President Ulysess S Grant. The only reason Japan agreed was because it was just buying time to modernize its Navy under the leadership of Sakamoto Ryoma. You should spend some time reading Mr. Martin Lohmeyer's thesis on these Senkaku or Diaoyu islands. Or, Japanese professors Tadayoshi Murata from Yokohama National University and Kiyoshi Inoue from Kyoto University. They will tell you that they belong to China. In fact if China was the bad guy, they would have long invaded Japan when it was a tributary state. The same for Okinawa. China had a lot of tributary states, yet its policy was not of annexation but of keeping status quo. Now Japan had a different philosophy of brutal annexation and assimilation. The pig is still a pig even with lipstick. Japan only knows one negotiation compromise, all mine or none. Just like their stance on the souther kuriles. That is not what I read today in the Pacific Stars and Stripes about China. If anybody will lose in the end it will be Japan. Chinese have already experienced all kinds of aggressions from colonial powers. So, they know what it to be in such a situation. Japanese had it made because American were not after retribution. What if the main occupation forces were from the former Soviet Union. I am sure there would have been plenty of pay back. Yet, the Unites States was not after that. A lot of Japanese citizens were left behind in China by the Japanese. Did the Chinese kill them? No, they raised them with love and made them Chinese citizens. Yet Japan did not even want to accept them back in the country without a lot of scrutinies. If it comes to a bet, eventually the US might have to sever ties with Japan for its stubbornness and childish ways going to Washington to cry to Uncle Sam.

  • 0

    avigator

    Kikozaemon, give yourself three weeks and let me know if you got the slap, (or something similar).

  • 4

    Fadamor

    I guess it's true what they say: "The truth hurts." China HAS gotten more aggressive lately in regards to their neighbors. That's an undisputed fact. It's a shame they aren't using the same amount of aggression against their little puppet regime down in North Korea. "Buffer" countries aren't supposed to gain nuclear capability that can be used against the puppeteer's country.

  • 0

    JoshuYaki

    In the end, what do these old men want. They want a victorious war to associate thier name to, so that they will be forever rememberd thus making them immortals.

    Neither China or Japan care for the islands. Perhaps there is treasure under the sea floor but otherwise these are bored boy soldiers beating thier chests.

    Chinese people love Japan and Japanese peoople. Japanese people love China and Chinese people. They are innocent bystanders to the ambitions of napoleon complex single child policy man-children.

  • 0

    tegomas

    Politicians, grown men in power, leading their countries, and acting like children in a sandbox.

  • -6

    ne-tiger

    Anti-japanese education? Give me a break!

    Do Asians need any education to hate Japanese? It's Japan that white washes their WW2 war crimes every day, deny Rape of Nanking and comfort woman every day. Tt's also Japanese stupid leaders now that want to encircle China and incite a war between US and China.

    Even Chinese government helps Japan to white wash their records, Chinese/Asian people will still hate Japanese because it's stupid Japanese people that elects their stupid right wing leaders.

  • -6

    Tony Ew

    "China on Friday slammed Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for telling a U.S. newspaper that Beijing had a “deeply ingrained” need to challenge its neighbors over territory."

    Disgraceful democracy practised by Asians! You can bring in your Philippine friend too. You never see this kind of low life cowboy democracy in America. There is no 'decorum' in style from the leader of a country! Perhaps democracy is not suitable for Asians? That is why I say Japan have NEVER produce ANY statesman. Just 'fast food' sly talking PM, that's it!

  • 1

    falseflagsteve

    What i find "LOL" is how people take this seriously. This is like inn wrestling where they rant and rave but are friends behind the scenes. You are all being played, well most are,some can see what is happening.

  • 2

    nigelboy

    China's anti-Japan education policy was revelealed in their Teacher's manual (2005) which it states on page 69 that "We must instill grudge against Japanese Imperialsim where it should be engraved in their hearts"

    We witnessed the by-product of this education last year during the mass uncivlized demonstration of Chinese citizens destroying hundreds of million yen in damages.

  • 2

    gelendestrasse

    I am in China right now, and I have more freedom than in Japan....

    Are you in Hong Kong or in Taiwan?

    don’t see Chinese PM bashing other country like this...

    Actually, every level of Chinese govt. and the press are bashing Japan, Viet Nam, the Phillipines, etc.

    Abe has a duty to stand up for Japan. He is doing the right thing.

  • -2

    PT24881

    The PM Shinzo Abe's carefully planned 'smart' propaganda warfare of publicizing China bashing statements via a key US media to enhance the effect of his first trip in office to the US has apparently turned sour. His think tank who put forward this clumsy game plan should be blamed -- the remarks ( wishing it was misquoted ) sounded squarely too unskillful & 'non-Japanese ( general image as educated & civilized nation ) to be coming from the prime minister of Japan. His widely respected ancestors would very likely be severely upset by their grand son !

  • 0

    Seiryuu_Dan

    @bannedacctsam

    It's ironic that Abe is claiming that China is instigating problems with it's neighbors when infact :

    Japan has Isle disputes South Korea, Russia, China, and Taiwan - Or basically every country in close proximity to Japan.

    Meanwhile China have Territorial disputes with Burma, Laos, Northern India, Vietnam, Nepal, Bhutan, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, the Ryukyu Islands, 300 islands of the South China, East China and Yellow Seas, as well as Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Taiwan, South Kazakhstan, the Afghan province of Bahdashan, Transbaikalia and the Far East to South Okhotsk.

  • 0

    A Realist

    At least one leader of one country has the guts to speak bluntly and publicly say what everbody knows. An authoriatian, oppressive country that is ruled by one party has to have an "outside enemy" in order to survive, That keeps the sheeps attention focused on the "enemy" else they might start looking closely at the corruption of their government.

  • 0

    sf2k

    China winning gold again at the Irony Olympics

  • 1

    Fadamor

    You don’t see Chinese PM bashing other country like this, do you?

    That would be because the Chinese don't HAVE a "PM". Their Foreign Ministry spokesman sure was having fun bashing, though.

  • 3

    sfjp330

    Didn't Abe visit Yasukuni last year? Is Abe sincere in improving relations with neighboring countries by visiting Yasukuni and asking China for their understandings? Also, when you have over 60 J-goverment officials that represents millions and millions of people of Japan, that are visiting and praying for 14 class A war criminals every summer, it does not help to improve relationship with China and Korea. These elected officials are doing the same thing every year. Apologies don't mean anything when your elected officials still go to Yasukuni to pray for their buddy of class A war criminals and JIA. Japan cannot make small steps forward like what Germany did. If Abe has any guts, he should demand that no J-goverment representative will go to Yasukuni, or your fired. It's all about Japan continuing playing the victim card and nothing else is allowed.

  • 0

    flowers

    Fadamor, I meant to equate their positions. Foreign Ministry spokesman is not the leader of the country. The spokesman’s “fun bashing” is only in response to the unsubstantiated verbal attacks from Japan. Did you ever hear Chinese leader utter the wrong words and later recanted? We have never seen Chinese leader initiating a verbal attack on Japan ever. A leader should behave like a leader; his or her words should be golden and indisputable.

  • -1

    sfjp330

    The China tries to have better perception internationally, but they are having a credibility problem on how other countries view China on improving its image overseas. Still many people in international community question what China is actually trying to do. Not too many people understand the Chinese culture, values and institutions of China. U.S. is very clear with their objectives. U.S. policies are for democracy and values of human rights that attracts many countries. Most people do not know what is China's core values, and the character of China's soft power cannot be identified. China actually has no soft power because the values comparable to western democracy or human rights are absent in China. China's government has promoted the "harmonious society" but this has been taken as a joke by many of its own people who clearly understand the real purpose of the slogan.

  • 0

    HokoOnchi

    Let's see ... in addition to the Senkaku issue, China's territorial claims include all of the international waters of the South China Sea except for coastal waters along the shores of Vietnam, Indonesia and the Philippines.

    Likewise China's claim in the Yellow Sea pushes to include Socotra Rock to expand EEZ fishing rights into South Korean waters. And the routine sending of fishing fleets crewed with aggressive fishers who are prone to fight with the S. Korean coast guard they encounter. And on land, one of all of Korea's most important mountains, Mt. Baekdu, is now claimed to belong mostly inside China's side of the boundary line with N. Korea.

    And China's continues to have boundary line disputes with India ... which included a war that did not resolve the dispute.

  • 2

    AnonymousNJ

    I guess my first post here was a little "too" much. I apologize for that (to the mods). >_< I'll make amends by toning it down a bit.

    To paraphrase a more on-topic part of what I said before, it's quite clear that China is a big bully. I put that in a 21st century mindset of way. We know they skewed their own history and affect other countries' air quality (i.e. Kyushu). I wish other people could step up like Abe, in this sense, and say the truth where it needs to be said.

    Most people do not know what is China's core values

    If you're in Asia, it's crystal clear to me: money and economics.

    Which is why I brought up Taiwan as a fine example. Taiwan is a country on its own right and wants to be internationally recognized. However, the CCP wants Taiwan to "harmoniously" be a part of it. According to Chinese textbooks, Taiwan is a part of China. The CCP used money as a way to get other countries to not accept Taiwan as a country. The Taiwanese don't want that and never saw it that way. They know their history. They don't consider themselves as Chinese, and will complain about the Chinese tourists in Taiwan when they can. Which is why, I'm not surprised about the anti-Japanese sentiment in the Chinese textbooks.

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    sfjp330

    China's has continued to pressure foreign governments, especially the U.S. and Japan to acknowledge acceptance of the policy with a rigid, uncompromising diplomatic or military stance. In other words, it's a aggressive attempt to lay down foundation of warnings to U.S., Japan and other countries to accept with little or no negotiation of China’s position on most issues. If this continues, nobody wants to hear from them and they will become more isolated. China will contiue to have difficulty in diplomacy with international community as it expands their rigid communication.

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    lachance

    Mr. Abe on Friday will be told what to do, and that involves war with China. The Pacific Fleet's deputy chief of staff for Intelligence and Information is already preparing the world to understand why Japan needs to go to war to protect its sovereignty against Chinese harassment. He has his orders, and he's following them. Likewise, Japan needs to show the world that it can stand on its own two feet by defeating China single-handedly in an Air-Sea Battle engagement.

    In fact, we do not intend that any of mainland China will be disturbed in the least, unless the islands of Japan are compromised themselves. This is intended to be simply the destruction of the PLA Navy in the East China Sea and the PLA Air Force in the same arena. In essence, it is our intention to castrate the PRC of its military capabilities so that it will no longer be in a position to seize other nation's maritime sovereignty rights. Should nuclear weapons come into play, China will be annihilated to the tune of 500 Hiroshimas.

    We're getting close to war, as Fanell has made plain. We have the Chinese daring more; and we cannot let them back down. Soon enough, we'll have sufficient provocation to dismantle the PRC into six independent countries, starting with a free Tibet, a totally autonomous Xinjiang, an Inner Mongolia capable of reuniting with Outer Mongolia and the Han Chinese divided within three independent countries based on the three principal rivers of current China.

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    Steve Christian

    OK Steve. Number of territorial disputes Japan has with it's neighbors............4. Numbert of territorial disputes China has........................................17.

    Yup. And Japan has 5 neighbors and China has 21. Percentage-wise Japan has more disputes. Which is why you ignored the part of the formula about number of neighbors.

    Is it too much to ask for a fair accounting?

    While we are at it, Japan is also trying to claim some unclaimable rocks in the Pacific to expand its EEZ. But Japan is not expansionist?? And we might also mention the fact that plenty of Asian nations have disputes with each other besides China. But China is smack in the center of them all!

    When the pot makes war on the kettle for being black, I will curse them both!

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    AnonymousNJ

    China will contiue to have difficulty in diplomacy with international community

    As long as China continues to be "aggressive", then, yes. Difficulty in diplomacy will rise. If it stops its imperialistic-ish ways of doing things (plus political corruption), then perhaps, other countries may respond better with it.

    Soon enough, we'll have sufficient provocation to dismantle the PRC into six independent countries,

    This would be an interesting sight to see. rubs chin

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    4649Julian

    China must quote exactly what Abe said on Washington Post. They fabricated Abe's comment as a deception for their people. The JPN Gov. sent a message few hours ago.

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    Chamkun

    ne-tiger Anti-japanese education? Give me a break!

    The Jiang Zemin Administration enacted the "patriotism educational implementation guideline" in 1994, and promoted the thorough anti-Japanese education from 1995 which would be "the 50th anniversary of an anti-Japanese war victory." Directions were taken out with the meeting in which the diplomatic authorities, such as an ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary who resides "that a history issue is emphasized from beginning to end, and saying it moreover while continuing telling Japan the Taiwan and other problems thoroughly must be continued forever", and at foreign countries, were gathered in August, 1998. Anti-Japan sentiment increases by Jiang Zemin's anti-Japanese policy in China,since then. Especially after Tiananmen Sq incident as a scapegoat,Japan has appeared in their text books much more.

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    OssanAmerica

    Steve ChristianFeb. 23, 2013 - 10:13AM JST "OK Steve. Number of territorial disputes Japan has with it's neighbors............4. Numbert of territorial disputes China has........................................17."

    Yup. And Japan has 5 neighbors and China has 21. Percentage-wise Japan has more disputes. Which is why you >ignored the part of the formula about number of neighbors.

    Shall we see how many disputes other countries that have over 20 neighbors have? You asked a question and you got an answer.

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    OssanAmerica

    Steve ChristianFeb. 23, 2013 - 10:13AM JST "OK Steve. Number of territorial disputes Japan has with it's neighbors............4. Numbert of territorial disputes China has........................................17." Yup. And Japan has 5 neighbors and China has 21. Percentage-wise Japan has more disputes. Which is why you >ignored the part of the formula about number of neighbors. Is it too much to ask for a fair accounting?

    OK Steve. Japan has disputes with 80% (4/5) of it's neighbors. China has disputes with 81% (17/21) of it's neighbors. Fair enough for you?

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