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  OssanULTRA at 08:55 AM JST - 2nd June

  It makes a hell of alot more sense for Japan to be involved on the ground in Afghanistan than it did on the ground in Iraq.

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  tkoind2 at 10:58 AM JST - 2nd June

  Another big mistake.

  Look it is really very simple. Japan is largely off the radar now. As a nation it can play a great role in fostering peace and in representing non-violence. This is the single most powerful global tool Japan has today. When combined with her wealth, this makes Japan a key global player while isolating her from being a target of hatred. (other than the left over wwII issues.)

  Going into Iraq was an idiotic move. Going into Afghanistan is an equally idiotic move. Japan should stay far away from the fight between Islamic militancy and the US. There is nothing to gain here and an awful lot to lose.

  Afghanistan is a no-win situation as long as the US does not committ to it properly. If Japan joins, it will be yet another face on the targets set by radicals. And the exchange would not have been worth it.

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  some14some at 01:48 PM JST - 2nd June

  should circumstances there permit...circumstances may permit (some doubts remain) but neither LDP or Opposition partys will allow it.

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  weedkila at 02:54 PM JST - 2nd June

  the current refueling support for multinational antiterrorism operations.

  Who are they trying to fool, 'antiterrorism operations' ?

  It's a war 'of' terror, not a war on terror. Most people are starting to wake up to the fact that 911 was a false flag and was used as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

  Yukihisa Fujita, a politician in the opposition DPJ, recently questioned PM Fukuda and other LDP politicians about 911 and the legality of Japan's support in the 'war on terror.'

  At the 7:16 mark he says "You say you don't know about the (Japanese) victims of this crime (911) because you don't have the data. And you say you understand they did DNA tests. That doesn't mean that you verified, does it? What I wanted to ask you today is that this is a crime. With a crime you are to investigate..."

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOF_pXW84io

  Later in the video he questions the official story of 911 and who it was that carried out the crime. He is suggesting, in other words, that this war on terror may well be a war of aggression on countries that had nothing to do with 911. So now Fukuda and co. are talking about being involved in land-based activities in Afghanistan. I don't want my tax money being used in this way.

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  OssanULTRA at 08:02 PM JST - 2nd June

  "It's a war 'of' terror, not a war on terror. Most people are starting to wake up to the fact that 911 was a false flag and was used as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq."

  What did we have to gain? Often the simplest answer is the right one. The fact that ultimately WMDs were not found in Iraq does not validate every other conspiracy theory out there.

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  weedkila at 10:41 PM JST - 2nd June

  What did we have to gain? Often the simplest answer is the right one.

  Sorry, not sure who you mean by 'we'. I'm assuming you mean the American people? If we're talking about gain, you should separate the people from the American govt/corporations (same thing.)

  What is your interpretation of the simplest answer, by the way? If I look at the simplest answer (ie; who benefits) I see these wars are definitely not to the advantage of any middle eastern country (except one).

  Perhaps you should look into it a bit more. Anyway, we're talking Afghanistan here.

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  OssanULTRA at 12:13 AM JST - 3rd June

  "Sorry, not sure who you mean by 'we'. I'm assuming you mean the American people? If we're talking about gain, you should separate the people from the American govt/corporations (same thing.)

  In the United States the Government and Corporations are not the same thing as much as you would like to believe this myth. Under a system like China's where there is state owbership or partial state control, yes, there one could say governments and corporations are the same. Whether any brances of the government are in callusion with certain corporations is a different issue, but it does not make them one and the same. Secondly in the United States, you can not seperate the "People from the Government" because under our system we voted in our leaders and "we" as a populace have some degree of responsibility for our government, unlike foreign dictatorships. I really suggest you look into this some more prior to commenting onour political structure. And yes, we are talking about Afghanistan where as far as "Our" interests are concerned we would welcome more Japanese involvement.

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  weedkila at 12:01 PM JST - 3rd June

  hey JT,

  why did you cut those last 3 or 4 posts? What Ossan and I were discussing was to do with the legality of Japan's involvement in Afghanistan. It's related.

  Moderator: No, it wasn't because you made no reference to Japan.

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  GrouchyGaijin at 02:08 PM JST - 3rd June

  I find this all very interesting. IF this is the law of the land, 第九条　日本国民は、正義と秩序を基調とする国際平和を誠実に希求し、国権の発動たる戦争と、武力による威嚇又は武力の行使は、国際紛争を解決する手段としては、永久にこれを放棄する。二　前項の目的を達するため、陸海空軍その他の戦力は、これを保持しない。国の交戦権は、これを認めない, translated: ARTICLE 9. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. (2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized, THEN who is Fukuda going to send, as, technically, on paper, they are not supposed to exist! Anime soldiers? Cosplay soldiers? Morning Musume? I'm presuming, of course, that he was referring to military personnel, given their 'outstanding' performance in Iraq.

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  weedkila at 02:57 PM JST - 3rd June

  Mod: apologies. I read your line as a double negative

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