With these kinds of people in goverment opposing such progressive Nationality laws, I most sincerely wonder how Japan can ever be seriously taken as a world leader.
Yet another example of how the j-public just suck it up knowing full well that their "elected" officials are running this country into the ground. And how the j-government know that they can get away with 50 year old thinking without so much as a "ahem..." from the people that they control so well.
Makes me wanna sell the house, pack up and leave this sinking ship.
Ok, so we all write all these posts complaining about the fossils opposed to this bill, and then JT changes the article so that now it says it's passed the House of Representatives and is expected to pass the House of Councillors and become law by the end of the month.
So it looks like we're all complaining about what we are all (I assume) in favour of.
Thanks, JT.
:-(
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"Ok, so we all write all these posts complaining about the fossils opposed to this bill, and then JT changes the article so that now it says it's passed the House of Representatives and is expected to pass the House of Councillors and become law by the end of the month.
So it looks like we're all complaining about what we are all (I assume) in favour of.
Thanks, JT. :-("
Add to the fact that the most vocal opponent is not even a member of LDP and their opposing because they want stricter penalties on fraudulent filings as well as incorporation of DNA tests (which I believe the JT crowd had been screaming for).
Add to the fact that the most vocal opponent is not even a member of LDP and their opposing because they want stricter penalties on fraudulent filings as well as incorporation of DNA tests (which I believe the JT crowd had been screaming for).
As if this is going to stop the "LDP is a xenophobic racists" rant from the JT crowd even though I indicated that this is a LDP lead cabinet that submitted the bill.
These guys are living in the past. Why should UNSC consider them for a permanent seat?
China has one with all its human rights abuses and stalling of diplomacy with Japan for things that happened more than half a century ago. If living in the past should decide whether or not someone has a permanent seat on the UNSC, then half of the members would be gone.
only one comment on the thing that this is only in case the father is japanese. if the mother is japanese, recognised or not by the gaijin father just doesn't enter into it. we should all sue japan for protectionism to the WMO (world matrimonial organization)
No offence, but how many foreign women run off and get pregnant to Japanese men (out of wedlock moreover)? Rare as hens teeth, as opposed to the other way around. For some reason, foreign women - strangely enough with the exception of Filipinos and Chinese - don't in general seem overly enamoured with local Japanese lads. Why is this, foreign women? So this whole issue may be a moot point only...
strangely enough with the exception of Filipinos and Chinese - don't in general seem overly enamoured with local Japanese lads. Why is this, foreign women? So this whole issue may be a moot point only...
Chinese, Filipinos and your forgetting Korean women make up somewhere arround 80% of the foriegn nationals married to Japanese nationals in Japan. If you follow that percentage through to non-married Foriegn-Japanese relationship in would be more than a moot point. The whole foriegn guys like Japanese women but Foriegn girls do not like Japanese guys is a myth created by white English teachers in Japan, so they can feel better about themselves.
The whole foriegn guys like Japanese women but Foriegn girls do not like Japanese guys is a myth created by white English teachers in Japan, so they can feel better about themselves.
Damn! Way to burst my bubble, Good Jorb. Now I feel terrible about myself :(
Actually, the marriage figures in that link you posted are interesting, and illuminate the point that it is extremely rare for Japanese men, to marry Western women. Certainly doesnt mean they dont like em though! You are right, based on these figures, the issue - and the legislation change - is more than a moot point. I live in a semi-rural area in Tohoku and I see and hear of many Chinese and Filipino wives of local farmers.
However, going back to my observation about Japanese men and western foreign women, Ive been here 5 years and could count on one hand relationships Ive seen, whereas Ive seen dozens upon dozens of western guys with Japanese girlfriends or wives. I just think its an interesting phenomenon, and I don't really understand it!
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Betting at 11:39 AM JST - 18th November
With these kinds of people in goverment opposing such progressive Nationality laws, I most sincerely wonder how Japan can ever be seriously taken as a world leader.
Spidey at 01:48 PM JST - 18th November
Yet another example of how the j-public just suck it up knowing full well that their "elected" officials are running this country into the ground. And how the j-government know that they can get away with 50 year old thinking without so much as a "ahem..." from the people that they control so well.
Makes me wanna sell the house, pack up and leave this sinking ship.
Truly depressing
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norinrad21 at 02:10 PM JST - 18th November
oh well.......life goes on, there's an end to everything, these guys won't be in power forever
cleo at 02:33 PM JST - 18th November
Ok, so we all write all these posts complaining about the fossils opposed to this bill, and then JT changes the article so that now it says it's passed the House of Representatives and is expected to pass the House of Councillors and become law by the end of the month.
So it looks like we're all complaining about what we are all (I assume) in favour of.
Thanks, JT. :-(
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nigelboy at 02:57 PM JST - 18th November
"Ok, so we all write all these posts complaining about the fossils opposed to this bill, and then JT changes the article so that now it says it's passed the House of Representatives and is expected to pass the House of Councillors and become law by the end of the month.
So it looks like we're all complaining about what we are all (I assume) in favour of.
Thanks, JT. :-("
Add to the fact that the most vocal opponent is not even a member of LDP and their opposing because they want stricter penalties on fraudulent filings as well as incorporation of DNA tests (which I believe the JT crowd had been screaming for).
Spidey at 03:14 PM JST - 18th November
Add to the fact that the most vocal opponent is not even a member of LDP and their opposing because they want stricter penalties on fraudulent filings as well as incorporation of DNA tests (which I believe the JT crowd had been screaming for).
Who said that?
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Nessie at 03:28 PM JST - 18th November
Cleo, the babies they can take or leave. They'd rather have the chance to build lots of new maternity hospitals.
nigelboy at 03:28 PM JST - 18th November
As if this is going to stop the "LDP is a xenophobic racists" rant from the JT crowd even though I indicated that this is a LDP lead cabinet that submitted the bill.
nigelboy at 03:38 PM JST - 18th November
JT "crowd". Lost count. Too many of them.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/dpj-to-ok-bill-to-scrap-marriage-requirement-for-childrens-nationality
http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/govt-oks-bill-to-remove-marriage-requirement-for-childs-nationality
PrinceJK at 09:35 PM JST - 18th November
These guys are living in the past. Why should UNSC consider them for a permanent seat?
EurajReturns at 11:37 PM JST - 18th November
China has one with all its human rights abuses and stalling of diplomacy with Japan for things that happened more than half a century ago. If living in the past should decide whether or not someone has a permanent seat on the UNSC, then half of the members would be gone.
Bholder at 12:38 AM JST - 19th November
only one comment on the thing that this is only in case the father is japanese. if the mother is japanese, recognised or not by the gaijin father just doesn't enter into it. we should all sue japan for protectionism to the WMO (world matrimonial organization)
BurakuminDes at 01:02 AM JST - 19th November
No offence, but how many foreign women run off and get pregnant to Japanese men (out of wedlock moreover)? Rare as hens teeth, as opposed to the other way around. For some reason, foreign women - strangely enough with the exception of Filipinos and Chinese - don't in general seem overly enamoured with local Japanese lads. Why is this, foreign women? So this whole issue may be a moot point only...
Good_Jorb at 02:03 AM JST - 19th November
Chinese, Filipinos and your forgetting Korean women make up somewhere arround 80% of the foriegn nationals married to Japanese nationals in Japan. If you follow that percentage through to non-married Foriegn-Japanese relationship in would be more than a moot point. The whole foriegn guys like Japanese women but Foriegn girls do not like Japanese guys is a myth created by white English teachers in Japan, so they can feel better about themselves.
http://whatjapanthinks.com/2005/11/29/international-marriage-still-means-japanese-man-and-asian-woman/
BurakuminDes at 01:18 PM JST - 19th November
Damn! Way to burst my bubble, Good Jorb. Now I feel terrible about myself :(
Actually, the marriage figures in that link you posted are interesting, and illuminate the point that it is extremely rare for Japanese men, to marry Western women. Certainly doesnt mean they dont like em though! You are right, based on these figures, the issue - and the legislation change - is more than a moot point. I live in a semi-rural area in Tohoku and I see and hear of many Chinese and Filipino wives of local farmers.
However, going back to my observation about Japanese men and western foreign women, Ive been here 5 years and could count on one hand relationships Ive seen, whereas Ive seen dozens upon dozens of western guys with Japanese girlfriends or wives. I just think its an interesting phenomenon, and I don't really understand it!