Sacked ex-ASDF general receives Y70 mil retirement bonus

Tuesday 02nd December, 02:25 PM JST

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Triumvere at 07:04 PM JST - 2nd December

The man is odious, but being so does not justify stripping him of his pension.
meanmutha at 07:51 PM JST - 2nd December

realist. Interesting post. I couldnt agree more. To me, Showa times, they were inhumane disciplined soldiers and sailors. Once. Anyone who wants a good read on this by a Harvard historian pick up "Embracing the Enemy". Actually his wife is a Japanese like mine. It was the best post war education I ever got. Cleared things up quickly for my western education and ways. Shocking how they forgot who gave them a democracy and they have no clue how to defend a friggin nation which makes them who they are now. My point is self discipline, morals, public respect and certainly writing or speaking rubbish. However they won the peace, turn a blind eye now and they busted butt after the war 50-80s. These days they (that generation is departing) and now the kids (who dont know) are slipping and dipping to throwing trash on the street, bullying or just being....lazy. Most 30-40s guys here cant even cook a meal or rather watch the children. Anyway this cheeky guy can hit a beach in PI and retire. Let it rip old boy and fire the LDP.
Simon_Foston at 08:01 PM JST - 2nd December

Strange that someone expressing pride in his country would be attacked in such a way. Makes me wonder what agenda the attackers have.

Let's see. Damage limitation, maybe? The repugnant attitudes of the ruling oligarchy have been exposed, as a man who has openly expressed such views couldn't possibly have advanced so far up the ASDF chain of command unless powerful politicians and bureaucrats tacitly agreed with them, and now the government wants him to be dismissed as a solitary nutcase rather than jeopardize good relations with other Asian countries? Tamogami just said the same revisionist garbage they're all really thinking in their diseased, deluded minds, but unlike those gaisensha losers and that twat who draws those awful Wacism comic strips, he occupied too important a position for him to be easily ignored. Being important and a nazi in Japan is one thing. Being honest about it is something different.
meanmutha at 09:00 PM JST - 2nd December

my bad its been a few years "Embracing Defeat"
Beelzebub at 09:38 PM JST - 2nd December

Another example of a Kleptocracy Nippon in action.
Dogdog at 09:58 PM JST - 2nd December
meanmutha The repugnant attitudes....they were inhumane disciplined soldiers....Shocking how they forgot....are slipping and dipping to throwing trash on the street, bullying or just being....Most 30-40s guys here cant even cook a meal....

You sound like you've got as many issues with modern Japan as Toshio Tamogami.

While the guy's writings were total jibberish in reason he did touch on some issues that have historical validity.
1. History of WW 2 was written by the victors.
2. Japan at the time was acting like the western countries, including the USA, in trying to obtain economic auturky thru colonialism.
3. The inital Japanese victories in the early part of the pacific war were welcomed by a lot of Asians who lived under Western colonialism.
4. The early successes of the Japanese did hasten the end of western colonialism in Asia.
5. Relative to a lot of countries - Britain in Ireland, France in Algeria, the USA policy towards native Americans, Spain in Latin America and Western slavery on the African continent - the Japanese do have a masochistic leaning in their interpretation of their history simply by the fact that unlike Britain, France, the USA etc the issue is still addressed in Japan, even by nuts like Tamogami, and not ignored
jeancolmar at 11:44 PM JST - 2nd December

Hi Ho DogDog--How come the countries that Japan "liberated" from Western Imperialism hate Japan the most? This is the plain truth that sticks in the gullets of the Tamogamis in this country. And it is no doubt the main reason the Japanese hate the people they "liberated" more than any other people. You can talk about others sins, but first admit the sins committed by your own country.
meanmutha at 11:50 PM JST - 2nd December

Dog Dog good points. Its just I have seen things change at a rapid pace over 12 years...
BlackFlag at 01:40 AM JST - 3rd December

The man is odious, but being so does not justify stripping him of his pension

this is not his pension, it is a retirement bonus. a retirement bonus equalling over 700,000 dollars. do you realise how much money that is to 95% of the planet? this _______ shouldnt get a retirment bonus. a national pension will do him fine, and hopefully city hall have 'lost' his records
ptolemy at 02:07 AM JST - 3rd December

And what will anyone do about it, he has already got it. Hey here's an idea, lets get a stick and beat a dead horse. Retirement bonus or pension, the money is in his bank account right now. All the boo hoo in the world will not change the fact he's got the cash.

Wooo wooo - get on the clue train, this story was done after the fact.

Notice all the past tense verbs. I dont think he'll return it because he was asked to either.
ptolemy at 02:16 AM JST - 3rd December

Mugging is an illegal and violent act, what does that have to do with this oyaji's retirement bonus? He would have been paid it with or without the piffle he wrote. Again lets get a stick and beat some dead horses.
ca1ic0cat at 04:19 AM JST - 3rd December

If the bonus is typical then there really isn't much discussion. Not like he is the CEO of a defunct bank, no matter what you think of his opinions.

At the same time I'm wondering if I picked the wrong career....
BlackFlag at 11:49 AM JST - 3rd December

wrong is wrong and it is quite justified to whinge about it. face it, your posting on an internet forum is just as pointless as anything else on here, so what? do it or don't, get on the clue train
Triumvere at 06:23 PM JST - 3rd December

"this is not his pension, it is a retirement bonus."

and...? It may not technically be a pension, but it ammounts to the same thing. He earned it. Once again, odious as it is, the man's opinions do not cancel out his years of service to the country. He was fired, and rightly so, as the head of the ASDF is a representative of the military, and the nation as a whole and thus cannot be allowed to undermine the government. But we don't punish people for thought crimes or odious speech. We counter it with our own.
namuo at 07:37 PM JST - 5th December

jeancolmer

Hi Ho DogDog--How come the countries that Japan "liberated" from Western Imperialism hate Japan the most? This is the plain truth that sticks in the gullets of the Tamogamis in this country. And it is no doubt the main reason the Japanese hate the people they "liberated" more than any other people. You can talk about others sins, but first admit the sins committed by your own country.

PM Murayama comment: http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/press/pm/murayam/9508.html If you think, during WWII any country could being ethical and moral, it is wrong. http://www.japanfocus.org/TereseSvoboda-RaceandAmericanMilitaryJusticeRapeMurder__andExecutioninOccupiedJapan/ http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2007/08/british-and-american-military-rape.html

Even there is another fact,why they not being accused? Because,WWII power-relation decide everything after WWII. Also you said ASIA, then which country of ASIA hate Japan most? How many? You should understand ASIA is politically complicated area. Also, Japanese government had been paid a much of money to S.Korea and China about WWII.