Tibetan gov't-in-exile hopes for Japan's help

Thursday 27th March, 07:07 PM JST

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kalsang at 01:14 PM JST - 28th March

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apecNetworks at 02:23 PM JST - 28th March

In an idealized world:

During the G-8 Meeting this summer, in a Declaration, Japan and the US takes half of the refugees, and Europe takes the remainder. All parties benefit by helping the Tibetan refugees, India and the PRC would be relieved to have a problem resolved, and the G-8 would have a real voice to the plight of Tibetans in future unrest.
Hikozaemon at 02:53 PM JST - 28th March

apecNetworks - I am in complete agreement - in an idealized world, Japan and the West should help to remove all the Han and Hui refugees from Tibet, that should never have been located there as part of the occupation in the first place. Their removal from Tibet (to western countries as an incentive) will stabilize Tibet and show that the G-8 is willing to do what is needed to resolve the plight of Tibetans, by helping them to reclaim their country.

Peace
timorborder at 04:10 PM JST - 28th March

Hiko, Japan isn't going to accept literally boatloads of Chinese "refugees." Although I understand your sentiment, it isn't going to happen. I don't think many other leading countries would be that interested either if just for the fact that Arthur Caldwell's most famous quote still applies in many parts of the world.
nigelboy at 04:15 PM JST - 28th March

timorborder

I think you need to read apecNetworks post to understand Hiko's response.
apecNetworks at 04:38 PM JST - 28th March

To Hikozaemon:

Yes, "helping them to reclaim their country", would require a central command at Diego Garcia, 2-3 Carrier Task Forces off the coast of Myanmar, free and clear supply line thru Myanmar. Tibetans would need to be supplied w/ something better than rocks.

Geopolitical concerns aside, it would be nice to see the Tibetans in a better situation than off the border of the PRC.

Japan would have REAL problems w/ taking in unskilled refugees.
Hikozaemon at 06:35 PM JST - 28th March

apecNetworks - once again, I find myself in complete agreement with you.

Japan would have real problems accepting unskilled Han refugees from Tibet. Maybe China should simply relocate them themselves, and show that no outside interference is necessary to bring justice to the people of Tibet.

There again, I think that China would also have REAL problems taking back all the unskilled Chinese it forced to migrate to Tibet in order to assimilate the country. Perhaps China can do a deal with India, to swap the Han and Hui refugees stuck in Tibet, with the Tibetan refugees stuck in India. That way Tibet is no longer a troublesome part of China, China doesn't have unskilled refugees to reintegrate, and India gets to upgrade from its monk refugees, to businessmen and trader refugees. Everyone wins.

Peace
apecNetworks at 06:58 PM JST - 28th March

From an analytical standpoint, the Tibetan issue is very clear. I have been in close contact w/ US Agencies personnel and I was highly sought after for analysis in their field, sooooo I can/have locked on to "a logic". Amazingly, quite simple in design once they talk to you.

I have been waiting for an Indian Ocean incident and this is only one of many to come.
Hikozaemon at 07:25 PM JST - 28th March

apecNetworks - in English, please. You are not making any sense. What Indian Ocean incident?

I don't think that anyone is talking about fighting China over this - least of all the Nobel Peace Prize winning Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government in exile. What the world hopes is that China can respond to the concerns of Tibetan people in a just and reasonable manner.

Do you think that this is possible for China, or is Tibet some piece of dirt that belongs to Beijing, populated by ungrateful peasants that you wish could be shipped away so as not to cause trouble for the Communist Party?

Peace
apecNetworks at 07:52 PM JST - 28th March

To Hikozaemon:

The US is a SUPERPOWER and the perspective is very different from most others except the Russian Federation. The US works off a world map and an erasable felt pen. To understand what my perspective is, is to work from a world map, not verbal gymnastics. One can see quite more looking at a good Pacific Ocean map rather than a generic map. I can't go further for it would cause damage.
Hikozaemon at 09:59 PM JST - 28th March

apecNetworks - Thanks for the response.

But I still don't get it. Obviously you understand the perspective of the US in a way that I don't. Are you implying that the US looks at Tibet on a map with a felt pen as something that it can rub out of China, and create as a US friendly base on China's doorstep to keep it under it's control?

Why would it do that when it already has Taiwan and Afghanistan to do that from?

And when has the US ever supported the cause of Tibetan independence? Or even the Dalai Lama, for that matter, who advocates Tibet as a part of China but where the people there have the freedoms to control their own religion affairs, and for the Dalai Lama to return.

I think that your problem is that you look at this (and dare I say, many other issues) from a combination of maps and anti-western paranoia. I would suggest you consider for once the concerns of those Tibetan citizens of China and the Tibetan Chinese exiles in India, and their concerns that led to this crackdown. If this were merely an issue about maps, then there would not have been human rights protests not just in Tibet, but neighboring provinces, just like there were in Shanghai recently, and in Tianenmen 10 years ago.

The reason China keeps failing on this issue and things do not improve is that it does not consider the issues being faced from a humanitarian based perspective. If it did, it would find solutions that would end these riots and improve China's international status without any sacrifice of sovereignty or redrawing of maps, almost immediately.

Peace
tresbien at 01:17 AM JST - 29th March

Japan is not going to help, but screw you over. Wake up, Tibetans.
some14some at 06:18 AM JST - 29th March

If this is what Tibetans expect, i am sure they are not going to achieve anything.
kalsang at 03:08 PM JST - 30th March

im Tibetan but dont expect japan to help as Because i feel that japan also no freedoms of human rth,Tibetan gov't-in-exile i dont know y thy always send use les Peoples to in Tibetan gov't-in-exile in tokyo
kalsang at 03:10 PM JST - 30th March

im Tibetan but i dont expect japan to help as Because i feel that japan also no freedoms of human rth ountrys,Tibetan gov’t-in-exile i dont know y thy always send useles Peoples to in Tibetan gov’t-in-exile in tokyo