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sabiwabi
All Israel has to do to stop the rockets is to stop treating the Palestinians as cattle. Any so-called nation that encloses millions of human beings for many years in the largest open air prison camp on earth, and restricts travel, food, electricity, fuel, medicine... should expect rockets being fired at them.
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Loki520
And why, pray tell, do you believe that Israel feels the need to do so? Why do you care so much about one side but, totally and completely, appear to care less about the unaimed rockets shot into areas populated by nothing other than Israeli civilians? In other words, why is it only the Palestinian civilians that you care about?
With any luck, Israel will NOT stop the rockets until the message gets thru. They've been trying for years to make them understand....
1) QUIT lobbing rockets over the border at us, and 2) Recognize our right to exist. 3) That's all. NOTHING else required.
Hell, even if they didn't do #2, odds are pretty good that #1 would be sufficient.
If you can dig tunnels all under the place in Gaza for militants to get all over the place, you obviously have the ability to work on your INFRASTRUCTURE instead of your rocket lobbing capability and hidey holes. Give a crap about the quality of life instead of destruction of the Jewish state, and you would be 200% ahead of the game.
If ANY of your points in negotiations/goals is a "Jew free..." area, you are obviously not worried about "peace" as it is known throughout the world. And to make that a goal against the people who have known TRUE attempts at genocide is folly, at best.
If your supporters in Ft. Lauderdale Fl, of all fricken places, are chanting "back to the ovens" or any other thing like that (and they are), your supporters are obviously not interested in "peace" as it is known throughout the world.
If you turn a mosque into a weapons cache, don't start whining like a baby when it gets blown up.
If you hide your military weapons among ANY civilian population areas, you need to let it go when they get killed because YOU started some crap your not capable of finishing.
Quit blaming the Jews for defending themselves.
Welcome to the real world. The Arab's may be able to cause every other "progressive" nation in the world to capitulate to their every need, but they aren't gonna do it with Israel.
And more power to 'em.
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WilliB
sabiwabi:
All that Gazans need to do to get open borders, free travel, and unlimited economic benefits is to elect someone else but the terror organization Hamas as their government.
No nation is obliged to aid a neighbour who has sworn to destroy it.
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hassanfakiri
To WillieB
Why doesn’t Israel recognize Palestine? Which Israel would you want Hamas to recognize? Does Israel have fixed borders? Moreover, how could Palestinians recognize a state that doesn’t recognize the very existence of the native Palestinians? Why doesn't Israel recognize the 1967 borders?
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borscht
I saw an interview with a former Israeli prime minister... (name escapes me).. who was asked what is the difference between a terrorist organization and the way Israel was founded (with terrorist strikes against the British, among others) and his response was... "Nothing."
Someday, maybe, Hamas will be the legitimate government of that area of the world and Israel will deal with them. I'm not holding my breath about it.
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moonbeams
ＷａｂｉＳａｂｉ，
Ｉ ｖｏｔｅｄ ”ｎｏ” ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ Ｉ ｔｈｉｎｋ ｔｈｅｒｅ must be a better way than to respond with violence because all this is going to accomplish is inspire the next generation of militants.
Hamas, while the democratically elected government of Gaza, is and has always been a militant organization whose goal is the destruction of Israel. Remember the war between Hamas and (let's make peace with Israel) Fatah?
Indeed, the real kawaisou matter is the Palestinian people. But they did elect Hamas. It's not a simple situation.
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Zurg
I voted 'yes' because Muslim extremists are the sole cause and they hide behind their own children and mommies’ skirts to selfishly take other lives. Sick muthurs. They call that brave and justice. Hamas has taken over the Palestinian cause and has destroyed any sign of hope for peace. Not to say the Palestinians had done any different. Allah is not kind to those who kill others. There is no room in Allah’s palace for them. Only satan and the evil angels ****will**** accept them. HEH-HEH-HEH.
Should there be 'an eye for an eye'? The Israelites need to back off, of course. However, 'he who is (without?) with sin will cast the 1st stone'.
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Badsey
Hamas must be crushed and bow down to their new master. The cake party is over for Hamas and the Palestinians who must now get off welfare and get real jobs like everyone else.
Same for the UAW.
Earn your keep, no more handouts.
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Zurg
To WillieB
Why doesn’t Israel recognize Palestine?
After the war, 1946, some of the Israelites decided to go to the home that, they say, God gave to them. Palestine. However, they have been gone for almost 2000 years. They came back to 'their so called home' to find things have changed. The Palestinians had settled in. The Israelites had wedged themselves in someone elses backyard and started to build homes. Arguments flared, fists flew, it was a fight. Islam is wrong, Judea Christians’ are right!
It is compared to someone coming to your house and saying to you, 'we lived here 50 years ago. My fore-fathers built this house 100 years ago .. I want it back .. you move out.'
What would you do? I'll let it go from there.
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Yuki_51
It's easy to condemn Israel. But no country would accept an adjacent state randomly firing rockets into its territory. This would be an act of war, period.
Israel doesn't make it easy for the Palestinians to make peace, and they can roundly be criticized for that. But that doesn't entitle Hamas to lob rockets into Israel whenever they feel like it.
Furthermore, Hamas does not accept the reality of Israel. Their plan is to make all Israelis leave, or die. It's hard to feel sorry for people with an attitude like that.
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japanidol
poll vote - no. Do I have an answer to this mess? No. There isn't one! There are two sides to the story and both parties are stubborn. When communication doesn't work us humans think violence will resolve the matter. Wrong. It only makes things worse. Unless of course one side is eliminated. Get the job done or smoke the peace pipe. Quit wasting time!
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Loki520
People, people, people...
If you're gonna discuss land borders, you need to take it up with the United Nations. NOT Israel.
If you're gonna discuss violence, you need to take it up with Hamas, and the people that voted this KNOWN militant group into power. Besides... what did Hamas promise the people during this 'vote'??? More Land. Back to the United Nations.
If you're gonna discuss self defense, THEN we start discussing Israel. The land is a UN issue, and the Palestinians are a Hamas issue (and vice versa). After all.. you get EXACTLY what you voted for.
Time to pay the piper.
Moonbeams... "because all this is going to accomplish is inspire the next generation of militants." Using this logic, I expect to see Israeli's in suicide belts pretty soon. After this many years of violence directed at them, they should be all a tither trying on the new ronco-matic explosive belts. So... why do the Israeli's, the one's the left consider warmongers, coldblooded and the violent ones, NOT have individuals acting out with belts and shooting rockets into schoolyards?
It's called civilization. If the liberals TRULY want that globalism thing, they need to get on the ball and teach their hero's to play nicely with the rest of the civilized world.
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sabiwabi
Considering the opinions expressed by posters on this forum, I would have expected a very different poll result. Me thinks many poster names belong to the same person, trying to artificially support their own views.
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Yuki_51
The question is rather simplistic, however, not really lending itself in any way to a serious "Yes" / "No" response. It's as if this Israeli action has all of a sudden spontaneously generated in a complete vacuum, which of course is obviously not the case.
Nobody likes civilian casualties. But one wonders where the "Do you agree that Hamas has a right to shoot 80 rockets a month into Israel?" question was, before Israel decided they had had enough and needed to take action.
I think Hamas is so much like the Japanese Army during the 1930s that it isn't funny. They cannot win. And eventually they will provoke Israel to the point (maybe they have already) that Israel will do something even Israel will come to regret. Something so ugly that it will make what's happening now look like a spring afternoon at 新宿御苑.
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Loki520
Or maybe... just maybe... some people are answering the poll without leaving any comments?
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grafton
I voted “yes” because it is about time somebody did something to rid the world of Hamas, as much for the sake of the Palestinians as the Israelis. Hamas didn’t get voted into power, they were in a coalition with Fatah & then decided to take control by killing any Fatar people that objected & a lot were killed & are still being killed.
Hamas have wanted this fight & the rockets have been used as an invitation, the question is to what end & maybe over the next few days we will get to find out. Though I can’t imagine Israel being so stupid as to not realise that it was a set up all along.
Palestinians have had 60 plus years to get their lives sorted out & still we are constantly told they are living in camps. Have any of you seen those “camps”? In any other country they would be called cites & really that is what they are. Did any of you read today that one of the Hamas leaders made a recorded statement on Gasa TV today? Strange given that we are also being told that Gasa has no electric. A few days ago we were also told that the people of Gasa were hiding in their homes fearful of the Israeli jets, yet at the same time when one of the Hamas leaders was killed thousands of them came out onto the streets to parade the dead bodies of that leader’s children. A leader so arrogant that he kept his wives & children in the family home (along with a store of weapons) even knowing that he was an Israeli target.
How many Hamas & Palestinian prisoner are in Israeli prisons? Quite a few I should think. How many Israelis survive being taken prisoner by Hamas or Palestinians? None.
This is a fight between civilised people & savages. Calling Hamas terrorists is a compliment I am not prepared to give them.
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JackBerstein
grafton:
This, I agree 100%; but I disagree 100% with everything else in your post.
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Blue_Tiger
There will be no peace between Israel and the various terrorist groups, such as Hamas, Hizbollah, Al-Aqsa Martyr's, until either (a.) these groups write out of their charters and mission statements the desire to blow Israel off of the Map, (b.) they are totally destroyed, or (c.) Israel is totally destroyed. Sicne (c.) will NEVER happen, the choice has to be for these terrorist groups to either do (a.) or (b.).
I support Israel in these strikes. Since the Israeli Government pulled their settlements and forced Jewish people to leave Gaza, Hamas and her allies have incessantly shot rockets from Gaza into Israel. If Palestinians want legitimacy as a soveriegn nation, they need to control Hamas, and erect theri own economy, and stop relying on Palestinian cross-overs working in Israel but sending their money back to Gaza, and end Hamas' and other terrorist cells' (in their territory and amongst their people) pathetic attempts to wipe out Israel.
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Yuki_51
Don't be so sure 'C' will never happen. Human beings have a strong tendency to extrapolate the recent past into the future. Recently (for a generation or two), Israel has been quite strong.
But Israel simply doesn't have, nor will it ever have, one of the most vital security components: strategic depth. It saved Russia more than once. It saved China, and would save it again. It would save the US, too. But Israel is vulnerable to a wipe out because it lacks any semblance of strategic depth. Yes, Israeli submarines could make the perpetrator(s) pay, but Israel could be presented with the ultimate fait accompli: You no longer exist for all intents and purposes. It's really a very tiny place.
In fact, over the long term, it's unlikely Israel will be able to maintain the disproportionate military advantage it currently enjoys over its enemies and potential enemies. (Egypt is no longer an "enemy", but it's certainly a potential one.) The notion that a few million can hold off more than a hundred million, especially when the hundred million have a much higher fertility rate, is a dicey one. I would not care to bet the ranch on long-term Israeli survival, even though it looks quite existentially safe right now.
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sabiwabi
What we have seen in the past six decades is a steady wiping out of Palestine. Since Israel does not want a one-state solution as the Palestinians would quickly outnumber them, they have made life hell for Palestinians to convince them to leave, as Israel gradually expanded its territory.
No, it is vulnerable to a wipe out because it lacks any semblance of legitimacy.
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Blue_Tiger
Yuki_51 - (c.) Will NEVER Happen....I know that on Authority...
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Yuki_51
Oh?
United Nations General Assembly Resolution no. 181 of 1947 (commonly known as the Palestine Partition Plan) recommended the creation from all of the lands of Mandatory Palestine west of the Jordan River, representing 22% of original Mandatory Palestine, a Jewish state (comprising slightly less than 11% of the Land), an Arab state (comprising slightly less than 11% of the Land) and an internationally-administered greater Jerusalem.
Not very legitimate I guess. ^_^
Now the Palestinians (and much of the Islamic world) have never accepted this, and subsequent waves of attacks have failed, with each attack seeing Israel get bigger, and Palestinian territory get smaller.
The 'Rule of Holes' surely must apply here: When you fine yourself in one (as the Palestinians do), stop digging.
In fact, however, the Palestinians seem not very smart. The smart thing for the Palestinians to do would be to "make peace", cause Israel to relax its guard (might take a long time, but so what), build up their population and their strength, and then finally overwhelm Israel.
But no, the Palestinians want to keep butting their heads against what is currently an impenetrable steel wall. If they keep it up, it's likely that they will finally have no territory adjacent to Israel from which they can ever prevail.
They seem not a very smart bunch, actually.
And as for Blue Tiger:
I cannot possibly imagine what your "Authority" is, but you might be right, and not for the reason you might imagine.
One of the deterrents to wiping out Israel is that the territory involved is so small that it is difficult to wipe it out without also wiping out all the adjacent Palestinians. So that is one reason it might not happen. But simply declaring that it will never happen doesn't turn a belief into a fact.
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AlNaqba
support or opposition from outside the region means nothing. israel,egypt,jordan and saudi arabia are going to see to it, each for their own reasons, that iran is checked. hamas loses. israel wins.
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Blue_Tiger
No, Yuki_51, you cannot imagine the Authority I have this assurance on, but trust me when I say, Israel will never be removed agian from her territory...
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Nordon
Well Hamas and Israel just brushed off the UN.
I think it's about time we stop caring to try and stop these people from killing themselves despite our sage wisdom.
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space_monkey
Let them blow each other up. Just like the world let Iraq and Iran blow each other up for eight years.
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Yuki_51
I used to think that creating an International Religious Theme Park (SuperNaturalLand?) would be a good solution.
An "E" ticket gets you nailed to a cross.
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