Well, if you live in the boonies, and the only store is a convenience store, and it's closed, then when you need something...milk, beer, soda...you would need to jump in a car and go downtown to get it. This wastes gas. I suppose you could come up with a complex plan in a city where there are many stores, maybe rotating who's open late on what nights.
It will have the same effect on CO2 emiisions as a fart in a hurricane would.
That said, I think it is more of a cost cutting move by franchisers.
Paying the 2 college kids behind the counter 5~10 hours of pay for a few graveyard shift customers just doesn't come up profitable.
You would still have to keep all the refrigeration going, as well as a certain level of air-conditioning for product life (in summer, anyway).
How about stopping all the 'service overtime' at large office buildings and shutting them down when everyone is 'supposed' to be home? You'd save a lot more that way, I reckon'.
well, if this would help or not is of course debatable. but, hopefully it would open people's eyes & more companies, offices & people in general would follow suit. You have to start somewhere.
It would certainly reduce noise and light pollution. I feel sorry for those who built new homes only to have a 7-11 move in next door. I also feel sorry for birds who have unwittingly changed their migration patterns due to the light emitted from the stores.
this is somewhat off topic and as such will probably make the mod's head hurt, but why in the world do people vote 'not sure' in polls like this ? all those who voted 'not sure' please go find yourselves a life
Which environment? The urban environment where I need to get my conbeeny bento at 2 AM? The corporate environment where the ecosystem is bottom line driven? The concrete contained riverine and oceanside environment, where all the streams are dammed, and all the hillsides encased in cement? Meh.
it may be good for environment, but it's total rubbish. They are running a very precise business with worked out logistics, why mess it up for them? Especially if there is a market for their operations.
4 words. Cool biz/warm biz. Dumbest thing I have ever heard of when you consider that they work late into the night for no reason other than looking like they are hard workers. Here's an idea, just don't turn the heat up to Amazon temps in the winter, and down to arctic in the summer. Keep the doors closed and don't heat/cool the outside. It isn't hard, and yet, the J-government feels that they need to make a big show of it in order to feel like they are doing something.
another stupid plan to "combat global warming" which it will do nothing for. You want to combat global warming tell me why most of the soy beans consumed in Japan come from the US while most of the soy beans consumed in the US come from China. The globalization of food supplies causes much more carbon emissions than keeping the lights on at the conbini. Beyond all that when I want something late at night it makes a lot more sense for me to take the elevator down 7 floors and walk across the street to Family Mart than to drive downtown because they are closed combatting global warming. rtrhead1 is spot on in the comments about cool biz and the government's desire to be seen as doing something about global warming. While we're at it let's just adapt daylight savings time since that is 1 less hour of electric light used by the whole country.
Pulling their heads with unnecessary construction would be 1000 times more effective than looking into convenience store hours.. another daft and useless idea that probably took a panel of 30 people to decide..
Pulling their heads with unnecessary construction would be 1000 times more effective than looking into convenience store hours.. another daft and useless idea that probably took a panel of 30 people to decide..
Well, the wave of unemployment caused by that move would certainly cause some suicides, thus reducing the CO2 that all those newly unemployed and freshly deceased people would emit to the atmosphere if they lived longer. Executing some government members would decrease CO2 emissions even further.
To me, the issue isn't whether it's good for the environment or not. The issue is whether people's convenience and economic payoffs are 'more good' than any good that would be done for the environment.
If Japan wanted to reduce the damage it does to the environment, it should introduce a summer-time/daylight saving system. One hour a day less of electric lighting all over the country for four months would make a significant difference.
This may be the only way Japan has to meet its Kyoto targets.
Restricting convenience store openings really would be negligible.
Doctor Tofu! Shame! That is a very cold statement, albeit possibly true.
This decision is a total crock. It will do nothing to curtail the CFC emissions nor will it have any effect on the photochemical smog within the heat island known as Tokyo. Day light saving would have a direct effect as it would effectively reduce electricity consumption on a daily basis. Another point to consider is, if the convenience stores were not open 24/7 we would have to start calling them inconvenience stores. No more 24 hour beer! That's bad!
Stores hours have nothing to do with its environmental friendliness. The major factors of energy waste in these stores are the excessive use of AC, cooler costs, and excessive lighting. I can very well see them changing their closing hours, but not turning off their AC or even dimming their lights. Dim lights mean more possibility of break-in or vandalism, and I’m sure no store owner wants that. My god, what would that do to their image. Family mart suddenly isn’t so family friendly. Personally I’m not worried about an increase in business vandalism, but I think that the threat would be enough to worry the owners so that they would leave their lights on. There has got to be a better way. Building more environmentally friendly buildings is my suggestion .
****As for convenient stores, wouldn't a good start be to put doors on all the refrigeration units?****
Some stores use such a system, my local 7-11 the drink coolers are actually part/front of the refrigerated store-room. They restock the shelfs from behind/inside of the store-room.
Personally, all this talk of man-made global warming is a crock. I'd sooner blame the sun or volcanoes for the rise in temperatures, rather than people. At any rate, convenience stores cuttign their hours will do little good....
Lipscombe, don't laugh too hard. A recent study by the New Scientist states that it is POSSIBLE that the cutbacks that occured in the last 25 years, or so, in freon usage and aerosols MAY be at least partially responsible for the "global warming" that the Goreacle is screaming about. It goes on further to state, using their particular climate models, that any ACTUAL "global warming" is not only natural, but negligible in the amount of warming actually occuring. Of course, ALL studys are offset by other studies, and they all tend to achive the result desired by the sponsers paying for it...
Seems that the aerosols blocked the suns radiation and heat from getting thru the clouds, thus preventing the build up of heat, etc..
So... according to this study.... our early attempts to alleviate our mandmade and natural contributions to the ecology may have possible actually made it worse.
interesting that libscombe fails to understand that in 2005, sun activity was so severe that communications sattelites were heavily affected, insomuch that AFN Radio was forced to blackout U.S. Transmitted programming, and run music loops only. But, I guess the sun would have less effect on the earth than people would....
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Farmboy
Well, if you live in the boonies, and the only store is a convenience store, and it's closed, then when you need something...milk, beer, soda...you would need to jump in a car and go downtown to get it. This wastes gas. I suppose you could come up with a complex plan in a city where there are many stores, maybe rotating who's open late on what nights.
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conqueror_of_Uranus
It will have the same effect on CO2 emiisions as a fart in a hurricane would.
That said, I think it is more of a cost cutting move by franchisers. Paying the 2 college kids behind the counter 5~10 hours of pay for a few graveyard shift customers just doesn't come up profitable.
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smithinjapan
You would still have to keep all the refrigeration going, as well as a certain level of air-conditioning for product life (in summer, anyway).
How about stopping all the 'service overtime' at large office buildings and shutting them down when everyone is 'supposed' to be home? You'd save a lot more that way, I reckon'.
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jinjapan
well, if this would help or not is of course debatable. but, hopefully it would open people's eyes & more companies, offices & people in general would follow suit. You have to start somewhere.
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knucklerap
It would certainly reduce noise and light pollution. I feel sorry for those who built new homes only to have a 7-11 move in next door. I also feel sorry for birds who have unwittingly changed their migration patterns due to the light emitted from the stores.
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wilbur
this is somewhat off topic and as such will probably make the mod's head hurt, but why in the world do people vote 'not sure' in polls like this ? all those who voted 'not sure' please go find yourselves a life
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Kwaabish
wilbur,
I agree. Those that are not sure, should not vote at all.
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Xeno23
Which environment? The urban environment where I need to get my conbeeny bento at 2 AM? The corporate environment where the ecosystem is bottom line driven? The concrete contained riverine and oceanside environment, where all the streams are dammed, and all the hillsides encased in cement? Meh.
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nisegaijin
it may be good for environment, but it's total rubbish. They are running a very precise business with worked out logistics, why mess it up for them? Especially if there is a market for their operations.
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rtrhead1
4 words. Cool biz/warm biz. Dumbest thing I have ever heard of when you consider that they work late into the night for no reason other than looking like they are hard workers. Here's an idea, just don't turn the heat up to Amazon temps in the winter, and down to arctic in the summer. Keep the doors closed and don't heat/cool the outside. It isn't hard, and yet, the J-government feels that they need to make a big show of it in order to feel like they are doing something.
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usaexpat
another stupid plan to "combat global warming" which it will do nothing for. You want to combat global warming tell me why most of the soy beans consumed in Japan come from the US while most of the soy beans consumed in the US come from China. The globalization of food supplies causes much more carbon emissions than keeping the lights on at the conbini. Beyond all that when I want something late at night it makes a lot more sense for me to take the elevator down 7 floors and walk across the street to Family Mart than to drive downtown because they are closed combatting global warming. rtrhead1 is spot on in the comments about cool biz and the government's desire to be seen as doing something about global warming. While we're at it let's just adapt daylight savings time since that is 1 less hour of electric light used by the whole country.
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thundercat
As for convenient stores, wouldn't a good start be to put doors on all the refrigeration units?
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Hughgarse
Pulling their heads with unnecessary construction would be 1000 times more effective than looking into convenience store hours.. another daft and useless idea that probably took a panel of 30 people to decide..
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Hughgarse
Pulling their heads with unnecessary construction would be 1000 times more effective than looking into convenience store hours.. another daft and useless idea that probably took a panel of 30 people to decide..
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DoctorTofu
Well, the wave of unemployment caused by that move would certainly cause some suicides, thus reducing the CO2 that all those newly unemployed and freshly deceased people would emit to the atmosphere if they lived longer. Executing some government members would decrease CO2 emissions even further.
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keshii
To me, the issue isn't whether it's good for the environment or not. The issue is whether people's convenience and economic payoffs are 'more good' than any good that would be done for the environment.
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Ah_so
If Japan wanted to reduce the damage it does to the environment, it should introduce a summer-time/daylight saving system. One hour a day less of electric lighting all over the country for four months would make a significant difference.
This may be the only way Japan has to meet its Kyoto targets.
Restricting convenience store openings really would be negligible.
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serindipity
Doctor Tofu! Shame! That is a very cold statement, albeit possibly true.
This decision is a total crock. It will do nothing to curtail the CFC emissions nor will it have any effect on the photochemical smog within the heat island known as Tokyo. Day light saving would have a direct effect as it would effectively reduce electricity consumption on a daily basis. Another point to consider is, if the convenience stores were not open 24/7 we would have to start calling them inconvenience stores. No more 24 hour beer! That's bad!
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Mato99
Stores hours have nothing to do with its environmental friendliness. The major factors of energy waste in these stores are the excessive use of AC, cooler costs, and excessive lighting. I can very well see them changing their closing hours, but not turning off their AC or even dimming their lights. Dim lights mean more possibility of break-in or vandalism, and I’m sure no store owner wants that. My god, what would that do to their image. Family mart suddenly isn’t so family friendly. Personally I’m not worried about an increase in business vandalism, but I think that the threat would be enough to worry the owners so that they would leave their lights on. There has got to be a better way. Building more environmentally friendly buildings is my suggestion .
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Zen_Builder
****As for convenient stores, wouldn't a good start be to put doors on all the refrigeration units?****
Some stores use such a system, my local 7-11 the drink coolers are actually part/front of the refrigerated store-room. They restock the shelfs from behind/inside of the store-room.
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Blue_Tiger
Personally, all this talk of man-made global warming is a crock. I'd sooner blame the sun or volcanoes for the rise in temperatures, rather than people. At any rate, convenience stores cuttign their hours will do little good....
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lipscombe
hmmmm, errr, okay....
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Loki520
Lipscombe, don't laugh too hard. A recent study by the New Scientist states that it is POSSIBLE that the cutbacks that occured in the last 25 years, or so, in freon usage and aerosols MAY be at least partially responsible for the "global warming" that the Goreacle is screaming about. It goes on further to state, using their particular climate models, that any ACTUAL "global warming" is not only natural, but negligible in the amount of warming actually occuring. Of course, ALL studys are offset by other studies, and they all tend to achive the result desired by the sponsers paying for it...
Seems that the aerosols blocked the suns radiation and heat from getting thru the clouds, thus preventing the build up of heat, etc..
So... according to this study.... our early attempts to alleviate our mandmade and natural contributions to the ecology may have possible actually made it worse.
Now... THAT is something to go hmmmm... about.
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lipscombe
I was laughing about the volcano part, but you carry on
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Blue_Tiger
interesting that libscombe fails to understand that in 2005, sun activity was so severe that communications sattelites were heavily affected, insomuch that AFN Radio was forced to blackout U.S. Transmitted programming, and run music loops only. But, I guess the sun would have less effect on the earth than people would....
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