Maybe the administration and sale of performance enhancing drugs could be made illegal (if it isn't already), but an athlete doping is not a crime. It's just an infraction of the rules of his/her sport. Let the sport's governing body handle policing, judging and punishment. Putting it in the legal code and asking the courts to handle it is like asking the police to arrest singers who rely on auto-tune.
No. Many of the substances aren't illegal. They're just banned to be consumed by the athletes in their respective sports. Sports authorities are not legal criminal courts nor should they be.
@Speed - well put. What an innane poll this is. What crime has been committed when an athelete cheats? They do all the time - just watch any Open-Side Flanker in Rugby. To suggest that sports events are in any way, shape or form important enough to warrant cheating in them as a crime is to completely lose touch with reality (admittedly a situation much of the world appears to be in now).
Japangal is correct - all drugs should be legal, and regulated. That is accepted by economists and health authorities now (or the experts as you and I call them) - the rest is just moral posturing.
Current anti-doping rules and testing include far too many substances, including those that are not performance enhancing, and it is far too easy for amateur athletes (think Olympics and Paralympics) to be caught in an accidentally doping. (cold meds being the number one problem).
Serious performance enhancing cheating in professional sports can be dealt with as fraud, perhaps.
i think they should make 2 catogories clean and doped sport events, the clean athletes will have long lives, while the doped athletes have their record book times/scores and short lives,
I voted "no" because if a drug is used to enhance someone's sports skills, that's cheating, not a criminal act. Let the sport's administration deal with cheating, not the police.
Guys and girls - the survey is asking whether or not doping in sport should be a crime...not whether it is currently a crime or not (because we know it isn't).
So the argument that it isn't a crime but merely breaking the rules of the sport is missing the point.
So the argument that it isn't a crime but merely breaking the rules of the sport is missing the point.
What? So if someone answers the question "No" because they don't think doping reaches the level of a criminal act, they're missing the point of the question? I think you need to go back and re-read the question, then re-read all the responses, then re-evaluate how your post applies at all. The one missing the point is YOU. The question is asking whether you consider doping to be a criminal act. There is no right or wrong answer because it is asking for a personal opinion.
As it stands, doping in sports is not illegal though the possession of some of the drugs/paraphernalia required for doping may be illegal. Doping in sports is done to gain an unfair advantage over other competitors in that sport. It is not an action directed at the general population. There is no reason to bring the criminal courts into the picture, because the action by the competitor only hurts others in the same sport. The sport's governing body should be the only ones with any say in what does or does not happen to a competitor caught cheating.
@Fadamor - the question asks whether it 'should' be a crime. So, posts saying that (I'm paraphrasing) "it's not illegal, just breaking the rules of the sport" are missing the point, because we know it's not illegal now.
Posts saying no and giving a reason why doping should not be considered a crime are not missing the point.
Of course not, law enforcement resources shouldn't be wasted on this. But Lance Armstrong should give back every dollar taken under the guise of his faked super-human athleticism. It's a consumer issue.
Only in boxing.Juiced up can result in fatalities through punches.
Boxing itself should be illegal. In this age of concussion-awareness, we still have a "sport" where the ultimate object is to cause a concussion so severe that it causes the person to fall unconscious.
Boxing itself should be illegal. In this age of concussion-awareness, we still have a "sport" where the ultimate object is to cause a concussion so severe that it causes the person to fall unconscious.
Tis the words of an uneducated person to the world of boxing.The idea that you spout is so wrong and ignorant at best.
Every sport should have two leagues. One where athletes are free to pump themselves with anything and everything they can to give themselves a competitive edge, and another where it is all strictly prohibited and athletes are monitored extensively before, during and after competition. Then, let the fans decide which they would prefer to watch.
Doping shouldn't be a crime in a sport. It should get you disqualified. The crimes are for the legal authorities such as the police. There should be more testing for banned substances to get rid of the problem. I was a world class swimmer for years and had the drug test knowledge given to me at a young age. I don't know any of my colleagues who wanted to cheat to win. There is no fun in that, but there wasn't much money in my sport either. The more that's at stake...the more diligent these governing bodies need to be. This seems to be the reason for people to cheat. Since you can't take away the incentive you should make cheating virtually impossible. Everyone gets tested (maybe even before and after.)
Sports authorities are not legal criminal courts nor should they be.
It sure seems like they act like them now a days though. Look at the Lance Armstrong case, the recent MLB case involving Ryan Braun, where his test was over turned, but because the media ESPN leaked it, he was treated like a criminal.
I think it's getting out of hand though when things you eat, drink or can purchase over the counter can cause a "positive" test.
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JapanGal
All drugs should be legal.
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Thunderbird2
JapanGal... hope you're being facetious?
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lostrune2
Definitely GHB and Rohypnol, ha!
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JohnBecker
Maybe the administration and sale of performance enhancing drugs could be made illegal (if it isn't already), but an athlete doping is not a crime. It's just an infraction of the rules of his/her sport. Let the sport's governing body handle policing, judging and punishment. Putting it in the legal code and asking the courts to handle it is like asking the police to arrest singers who rely on auto-tune.
...wait, maybe I need to re-think my position.
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Speed
No. Many of the substances aren't illegal. They're just banned to be consumed by the athletes in their respective sports. Sports authorities are not legal criminal courts nor should they be.
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Jaymann
@Speed - well put. What an innane poll this is. What crime has been committed when an athelete cheats? They do all the time - just watch any Open-Side Flanker in Rugby. To suggest that sports events are in any way, shape or form important enough to warrant cheating in them as a crime is to completely lose touch with reality (admittedly a situation much of the world appears to be in now).
Japangal is correct - all drugs should be legal, and regulated. That is accepted by economists and health authorities now (or the experts as you and I call them) - the rest is just moral posturing.
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SamuraiBlue
Some banned drugs at international sport are found in OTC cold medicine so it is impossible to out law them entirely.
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taj
Current anti-doping rules and testing include far too many substances, including those that are not performance enhancing, and it is far too easy for amateur athletes (think Olympics and Paralympics) to be caught in an accidentally doping. (cold meds being the number one problem).
Serious performance enhancing cheating in professional sports can be dealt with as fraud, perhaps.
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Dennis Bauer
i think they should make 2 catogories clean and doped sport events, the clean athletes will have long lives, while the doped athletes have their record book times/scores and short lives,
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Aizo Yurei
It's stupid to make it illegal. Kick them out / ban them from the sport but for government and police to get involved? WHY?
What to protect sponsor or team owner's profits with my tax money? stupid....
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Jason Lovelace
It is theft no different than robbing a bank or picking soemone's pocket. Dishonest is dishonest...
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Fadamor
I voted "no" because if a drug is used to enhance someone's sports skills, that's cheating, not a criminal act. Let the sport's administration deal with cheating, not the police.
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ka_chan
Who cares, it's sports. Let them take anything they want. They'll just die younger.
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irishosaru
Guys and girls - the survey is asking whether or not doping in sport should be a crime...not whether it is currently a crime or not (because we know it isn't).
So the argument that it isn't a crime but merely breaking the rules of the sport is missing the point.
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Fadamor
What? So if someone answers the question "No" because they don't think doping reaches the level of a criminal act, they're missing the point of the question? I think you need to go back and re-read the question, then re-read all the responses, then re-evaluate how your post applies at all. The one missing the point is YOU. The question is asking whether you consider doping to be a criminal act. There is no right or wrong answer because it is asking for a personal opinion.
As it stands, doping in sports is not illegal though the possession of some of the drugs/paraphernalia required for doping may be illegal. Doping in sports is done to gain an unfair advantage over other competitors in that sport. It is not an action directed at the general population. There is no reason to bring the criminal courts into the picture, because the action by the competitor only hurts others in the same sport. The sport's governing body should be the only ones with any say in what does or does not happen to a competitor caught cheating.
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irishosaru
@Fadamor - the question asks whether it 'should' be a crime. So, posts saying that (I'm paraphrasing) "it's not illegal, just breaking the rules of the sport" are missing the point, because we know it's not illegal now.
Posts saying no and giving a reason why doping should not be considered a crime are not missing the point.
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telecasterplayer
Of course not, law enforcement resources shouldn't be wasted on this. But Lance Armstrong should give back every dollar taken under the guise of his faked super-human athleticism. It's a consumer issue.
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Akemi Mokoto
No. They should only be banned from the sport. Law enforcement has enough to deal with.
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cracaphat
Only in boxing.Juiced up can result in fatalities through punches.
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Fadamor
Boxing itself should be illegal. In this age of concussion-awareness, we still have a "sport" where the ultimate object is to cause a concussion so severe that it causes the person to fall unconscious.
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cracaphat
Tis the words of an uneducated person to the world of boxing.The idea that you spout is so wrong and ignorant at best.
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MeanRingo
Every sport should have two leagues. One where athletes are free to pump themselves with anything and everything they can to give themselves a competitive edge, and another where it is all strictly prohibited and athletes are monitored extensively before, during and after competition. Then, let the fans decide which they would prefer to watch.
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MrDarryl
Doping shouldn't be a crime in a sport. It should get you disqualified. The crimes are for the legal authorities such as the police. There should be more testing for banned substances to get rid of the problem. I was a world class swimmer for years and had the drug test knowledge given to me at a young age. I don't know any of my colleagues who wanted to cheat to win. There is no fun in that, but there wasn't much money in my sport either. The more that's at stake...the more diligent these governing bodies need to be. This seems to be the reason for people to cheat. Since you can't take away the incentive you should make cheating virtually impossible. Everyone gets tested (maybe even before and after.)
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Helen_Monk
Sounds like typical person who is naught but petty, jealous, and dishonorable and attacks success for naught
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Yubaru
It sure seems like they act like them now a days though. Look at the Lance Armstrong case, the recent MLB case involving Ryan Braun, where his test was over turned, but because the media ESPN leaked it, he was treated like a criminal.
I think it's getting out of hand though when things you eat, drink or can purchase over the counter can cause a "positive" test.
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