Hiroshima, Nagasaki mayors to ask IOC to accept joint bid
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some14some
IOC has already said NO, means it is a dead issue but the J-media may keep it alive for local business !
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minello7
These are two cities that have endured so much,they don't need incompetent politicians wasting hard earned local taxes.How people are easily confused(led) by politicians,mind you thats why they are politicians and not business people."Waste not Save" is a politicians motto.
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GW
The IOC didnt cast doubt, they said NO!
And please dont drag the Hiroshima/Nagasaki business of victim-hood into the olympics!
Now shut up already & take yr holiday till Aug.
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tmarie
No means no. When will Japan learn this?
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thepro
What a waste of time
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nylex4
of course they should be allowed to joint host - japan is always 'special case'...
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KyokoSmile
that's right. No means NO. I wouldn't want to see such "cities" hosting the Olympics. No way. Extremely embarrassing. My J-Family are also against it too. They think its ridiculous and doesn't make sense.
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ilcub76
You've got that right, nylex -- Japan is always playing the victim card. Japan will whine and moan until the IOC gives in, and if they don't give in, they'll scream bloody murder.
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northlondon
And why is it extremely embarrassing ? Hiroshima and Nagasaki have always stood out over the years as being rather against the Japanese government line and they have always campaigned for an end to nuclear weapons and nuclear war. Considering the impact that world history placed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they would make fitting venues for the Olympics. And by the way, all of my Japanese family are totally for Hiroshima and Nagasaki going for it instead of moneywaster and gangster Ishihara in Tokyo.
By 'victim-hood' (there is no such word) you mean having had American atomic bombs dropped on civilian cities ? Where you come from, have you ever experienced an American atomic bomb being dropped on your family ? By the way, the IOC have never said no to Hiroshima and Nagasaki co-hosting. It was just one opinion from one member of the IOC who said no. All these idiots posting the word victim on here have absolutely no education in world history. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only civilian-populated cities in history that have had atomic bombs dropped on them (by the Americans, no surprises there) and have since campaigned for world peace, despite the violence they have experienced.
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GW
Its simple NLondon, campaigning for peace is ONE thing, the olympics is ANOTHER, but by trying to mix the 2 H&N will be using the bombings in order to win an olympic bid, that just doesnt sit right with me.
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bamboohat
these fools have got it backwards. they choose cities that would make good "hosts." that's why they call it "hosting" the olympics. It's supposed to be a good city for the athletes, and the spectators. This is exactly why the Olympic committee says only one city can host the olympics.
But japan is acting like the olympics is like gift from daddy or something, and they are jumping around saying "gimme gimme gimme" because they think they are some kind of special case, instead of showing how they would be a good "host". Purely selfish.
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KyokoSmile
northlondon wrote: By 'victim-hood' (there is no such word) you mean having had American atomic bombs dropped on civilian cities ? Where you come from, have you ever experienced an American atomic bomb being dropped on your family ? By the way, the IOC have never said no to Hiroshima and Nagasaki co-hosting. It was just one opinion from one member of the IOC who said no. All these idiots posting the word victim on here have absolutely no education in world history. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only civilian-populated cities in history that have had atomic bombs dropped on them (by the Americans, no surprises there) and have since campaigned for world peace, despite the violence they have experienced.
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YGHome
It would have been the right thing to let Hiroshima and Nagasaki co-host the 2020 summer Olympics.
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northlondon
KyokoSmile, my argument is a simple one. The majority of posts on this topic are making fun of Hiroshima and Nagasaki playing a so-called victim card in order to bid for and host the Olympic games. I am merely reminding such posters that Hiroshima and Nagasaki have every right to play a victim card, considering the fact that the Americans dropped atomic bombs on both cities. Your long-winded and biased argument about Japan's human rights record during World War II has absolutely nothing to do with this news item. The US is also, as you put it, a 'world-renowned war criminal'. But Los Angeles and Atalanta were allowed to host the Games. People are accusing the Hiroshima-Nagasaki Olympic bid as a victim card and I am saying rubbish. If a Hiroshima-Nagasaki Olympic Games gives the US a guilty conscience about it's history of dropping bombs on civilians then it would have been worth it.
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KyokoSmile
Again, Hiroshima can be host for the games, but not Hiroshima *and *Nagasaki. Just one city can be the victor. Even my J-family agree with that. My point is also "simple".
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KyokoSmile
By the way, there are very interesting threads about this topic in the JT Forum. I'm a Member for years now, just search my username and you'll see. We can go there anytime and discuss this further in a civilized fashion of course. ;)
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smithinjapan
Wow... guess they forgot about Tokyo! hahaha... this is becoming a circus, not the Olympics.
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smithinjapan
northlondon: " I am merely reminding such posters that Hiroshima and Nagasaki have every right to play a victim card, considering the fact that the Americans dropped atomic bombs on both cities."
Glad you agree on their motivation for winning. You're right that they have the right to play the victim card, but pretending that that victim card entitles them to the games or special treatment is moronic. They have a right to be rejected like any other victim who makes such a sorry pitch as to why should win (and why they should host a dual games despite the rules)
"Your long-winded and biased argument about Japan's human rights record during World War II has absolutely nothing to do with this news item."
How about their human rights record at present?
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pathat
Hiroshima and Nagasaki might not have given up on the idea of co-hosting the 2020 Summer Games, but they are just wasting time trying to convince the IOC otherwise.
Japan could find that hosting the 2020 Games in those cities would be a double-edged sword when World War II history would be brought up.
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GW
NLondon
Perhaps Hiroshima/Nagasaki shud compete against say Rwanda, Armenia, native Americans, Auchwitz, Nanjing etc I realize I am mixing cities, countries & ........... but hopefully you will get where I & I think others are coming from, the H&N idea for a bid is very ill thought out if it was even thought much about at all which I sincerely doubt it was/is.
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YGHome
This is not a competition. Having Olympic Games in Hiroshima and Nagasaki would symbolize the universal triumph of life, and the ability of the human spirit to overcome horrors and evil, wherever these may occur.
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jam_sandwich
YGHome As a symbolic gesture, it's nice, but too politically motivated for the Olympics. Hiroshima AND Nagasaki trying to host the Olympics would sidetrack the games. The Olympics already represent peace, goodwill and sportsmanship. Why do Nagasaki and Hiroshima need to promote something that is already represented by the games. It's redundant! If both cities are allowed to host for that reason, it opens up the games to other cities to do the same as well. Why not then have them in Pearl Harbor, or Auchwitz, or Nanjing. War struck those places as well. Could not one of those places make the same claims as Hiroshima and Nagasaki? If the ONE of the cities were to be given the games, it should be based on how wll they can host the games, not based on the city's history!
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jam_sandwich
northlondon History should not be the deciding factor for the Olympics. The Olympics need to be free of political, historical, racial, gender, class, and ideological agendas, in order to promote peace.
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12_year_sensei
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are indeed trying to use the Olympics to help wash the blood off their hands for supporting Japan's war effort until August 1945.
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KyokoSmile
# * YGHome at 02:17 AM JST - 10th January
This is not a competition. Having Olympic Games in Hiroshima and Nagasaki would symbolize the universal triumph of life, and the ability of the human spirit to overcome horrors and evil, wherever these may occur.*
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12_year_sensei
Most certainly it is a competition. And the Japanese are using it to whitewash their bloody history.
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