If it were Hiroshima/Fukuoka you could argue it's one games since the 'co-hosting' cities are much, much closer together.
Anyway, Hiroshima doesn't have a chance because of the rigidity of building permits and what not (since so many places are heritage sites, etc.). And lest we forget that if ONE Japanese city (let alone two) bid for the Games Ishihara will turn around and put Tokyo on the ticket again, claiming it's "what the people want, and I represent the people".
Meant to add, I agree with those posters who suggest that these cities should NOT be using the bombings as their key factor in getting the games. How are the speeches going to go?
"We are the only cities to have suffered nuclear bombings, so we want to wipe out areas of the cities to make room for the Games"?
Bids are an expensive gamble that I thought Japan couldn't afford (and I'd bet AGAINST any city in Japan after the way Ishihara acted after the Tokyo bid.)
There is part of me that would like this bid to succeed, just to get up Ishihara's nostrils. Could you imagine the scenes at the nationwide governor's conferences. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki decked out in their Olympic promotional material. To quote a certain credit card commercial, the photos would be priceless.
After Mr.Ishihara being a big baby, I don't think Japan will win that gamble for many years to come.. If there's that much money spent for hosting the Olympics, they should know that there are people who need that money right now and there are much better ways to make use of that money.
Mr. Ishihara is really trying to make his "dream" come true, but he needs to realize that the money he is spending is the TAX money, not the money out of his pocket.
I cannot believe some of the rubbish that has been written and the totally anti-Japanese sentiment I have read on here. For the likes of smithinjapan, I hope your conscience kicks you awake every night after your attempted little quip about 'wiping out the cities'. Not funny at all. If any of the idiots above knew their history properly they wouldn't crack puns about what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Being someone who has been involved in amateur track & field all their life with family connections in the IOC, I cannot think of any other city in the world more suited as an Olympic host venue as the Hiroshima/ Nagasaki ticket. There is nowhere else in the world (bar maybe Ethiopia or Sudan or a New York venue on the site of the Twin Towers) that should come before a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki vote.
And this Gilbert Felli fool is a good example of somebody with a lot of political power yet totally out of touch with reality and world history. There is nothing to say that a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki joint bid is not allowed. Absolutely ridiculous for him to suggest otherwise. They are only 200 miles apart and the main athletics stadium can be in Hiroshima with plenty of events held in Nagasaki. This is 2009, not 1909 and Japan has the most advanced public transport system in the world.
I hope this ticket goes all the way. In reply to gogogo, the mayors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have always promoted world peace and the abolition of nuclear weapons after the wicked destruction of their cities and I have never felt that they have been seeking a sympathy vote from anyone. You're completely missing the point gogogo, this is exactly the reason why Hiroshima/ Nagasaki should be getting the Olympics.
The Olympic ideal was sold down the river a long time ago to the likes of McDonalds, Nike, Adidas, Coke and Pepsi. A Hiroshima/ Nagasaki vote would put the Olympic philosophy back on track.
Don't disagree with that Sarge. But don't you think that the message of a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki games (i.e we want people to remember how war ruins peoples lives and that the creation of nuclear weapons has threatened human existence) achieves far more than 'China get the games because they have never held them before/ London gets the Olympics because of a good pitch/ Rio gets the games because South America has never had them' ?
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mrsynik at 11:48 AM JST - 13th October
As I said in another thread, the IOC don't accept joint bid so this should be the end of the subject.
stealth_one at 12:43 PM JST - 13th October
That is the strength of their bid,being the only nuclear bombed cities.
smithinjapan at 12:51 PM JST - 13th October
If it were Hiroshima/Fukuoka you could argue it's one games since the 'co-hosting' cities are much, much closer together.
Anyway, Hiroshima doesn't have a chance because of the rigidity of building permits and what not (since so many places are heritage sites, etc.). And lest we forget that if ONE Japanese city (let alone two) bid for the Games Ishihara will turn around and put Tokyo on the ticket again, claiming it's "what the people want, and I represent the people".
smithinjapan at 12:53 PM JST - 13th October
Meant to add, I agree with those posters who suggest that these cities should NOT be using the bombings as their key factor in getting the games. How are the speeches going to go?
"We are the only cities to have suffered nuclear bombings, so we want to wipe out areas of the cities to make room for the Games"?
Gaijinocchio at 01:47 PM JST - 13th October
Why is Japan suddenly lusting after these games?
Bids are an expensive gamble that I thought Japan couldn't afford (and I'd bet AGAINST any city in Japan after the way Ishihara acted after the Tokyo bid.)
timorborder at 02:14 PM JST - 13th October
There is part of me that would like this bid to succeed, just to get up Ishihara's nostrils. Could you imagine the scenes at the nationwide governor's conferences. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki decked out in their Olympic promotional material. To quote a certain credit card commercial, the photos would be priceless.
fishy at 03:12 PM JST - 13th October
After Mr.Ishihara being a big baby, I don't think Japan will win that gamble for many years to come.. If there's that much money spent for hosting the Olympics, they should know that there are people who need that money right now and there are much better ways to make use of that money. Mr. Ishihara is really trying to make his "dream" come true, but he needs to realize that the money he is spending is the TAX money, not the money out of his pocket.
xpompey8 at 03:37 PM JST - 13th October
Back to the drawing board. Maybe Okinawa want to give it a try.
bogva at 04:48 PM JST - 13th October
May be that's exactly behind the bid! Hiroshima governor will try to use the Olimpics as argument against heritage preservation supporters!
stirfry at 05:39 PM JST - 13th October
don't MOST of the olympics symbolize worle peace ?
stirfry at 05:40 PM JST - 13th October
to a japanese politician, its the same thing
Jbizzle at 07:45 PM JST - 13th October
How about Fuk? Great city...lots of space, beautiful women
northlondon at 08:51 PM JST - 13th October
I cannot believe some of the rubbish that has been written and the totally anti-Japanese sentiment I have read on here. For the likes of smithinjapan, I hope your conscience kicks you awake every night after your attempted little quip about 'wiping out the cities'. Not funny at all. If any of the idiots above knew their history properly they wouldn't crack puns about what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Being someone who has been involved in amateur track & field all their life with family connections in the IOC, I cannot think of any other city in the world more suited as an Olympic host venue as the Hiroshima/ Nagasaki ticket. There is nowhere else in the world (bar maybe Ethiopia or Sudan or a New York venue on the site of the Twin Towers) that should come before a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki vote.
And this Gilbert Felli fool is a good example of somebody with a lot of political power yet totally out of touch with reality and world history. There is nothing to say that a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki joint bid is not allowed. Absolutely ridiculous for him to suggest otherwise. They are only 200 miles apart and the main athletics stadium can be in Hiroshima with plenty of events held in Nagasaki. This is 2009, not 1909 and Japan has the most advanced public transport system in the world.
I hope this ticket goes all the way. In reply to gogogo, the mayors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have always promoted world peace and the abolition of nuclear weapons after the wicked destruction of their cities and I have never felt that they have been seeking a sympathy vote from anyone. You're completely missing the point gogogo, this is exactly the reason why Hiroshima/ Nagasaki should be getting the Olympics.
The Olympic ideal was sold down the river a long time ago to the likes of McDonalds, Nike, Adidas, Coke and Pepsi. A Hiroshima/ Nagasaki vote would put the Olympic philosophy back on track.
Sarge at 09:01 PM JST - 13th October
"At the moment the answer is no"
And that answer will not change to yes.
NorthLondon - Even if Hiroshima and Nagasaki get the games, you'll still see the likes of McD's, Nike, Adidas, Coke and Pepsi all over the place.
northlondon at 10:43 PM JST - 13th October
Don't disagree with that Sarge. But don't you think that the message of a Hiroshima/ Nagasaki games (i.e we want people to remember how war ruins peoples lives and that the creation of nuclear weapons has threatened human existence) achieves far more than 'China get the games because they have never held them before/ London gets the Olympics because of a good pitch/ Rio gets the games because South America has never had them' ?