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Prosecutors decide not to indict Wakanoho, but JSA says he won't be allowed back
Friday 12th September, 02:33 PM JST
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rtrhead1 at 11:27 PM JST - 12th September
the gov't was kind enough to prosecute him because they couldn't prove it. there was doubt. lots of it. he admitted to it. does everyone here who goes into a locked room filled with japanese police and comes out with a "confession" actually do what they "confess" to? who knows why he was fired definitively. what it appears to be is that he will get a stiffer penalty because he is foreign. again, i bring up the stablemaster who allowed his trainee to be beaten to death, no penalty. how about the sumo who killed a pedestrian due to negligence while driving? he KILLED A HUMAN BEING BECAUSE HE DIDN'T THINK THEIR LIFE WAS WORTH HIS TIME!!!! what did he get? 1 tournament suspension.
lipscombe at 11:38 PM JST - 12th September
rtrhead, I agree with you. Wakanoho is a criminal but there has been a serious imbalance of justice and attention to this case.
ExPrinceska at 12:27 AM JST - 13th September
very good.
kolohe at 02:58 AM JST - 13th September
If he were working for a Japanese company, he would have already been fired. And maybe that is the situation. The stable, in essence, was the company and he was the employee, who just happened to get arrested for possession of an illegal substance. He should not be reinstated and should be deported. Enough said, end of story.
rjdsr at 03:12 AM JST - 13th September
Why deported? He never broke a law in Japan.
TheNewZen at 04:21 AM JST - 13th September
I say it again.
Not sure why some cannot understand the simple fact that the JSA is NOT the legal system and has no influence over it. Neither do they have influence over immigration.
As for the JSA giving out unjust punishments, maybe and maybe not. I don't have all the full details as to what goes on with every wrestler in sumo. Said that Wakanoho has been quiet a bit in the news due to problems like property destruction, illegal moves and punches during fights, etc.
AS for him being deported. Easy as the article states he can only stay in Japan as long as he is a sumo wrestler, he got fired from his employer(JSA) and thus is being deported as he no longer fits the requirements.
IMHO, by suing he achieved the exact opposite of what he wanted, now I see no way for him to get back into sumo ever.
TheNewZen at 04:27 AM JST - 13th September
rtrhead1.
Reread my post above where I linked to an article from LAST October, when he was expelled and banned for life. Not sure why nearly 1yr later people still spread the myth that he got never punished, 20seconds on google find the info Here it is again: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S34KDO1&show_article=1&cat=0
I noticed in the last 15months that the JSA has started to hand out increasingly tougher punishments as they seem to be trying to clean the sport up.
MeanRingo at 06:11 AM JST - 13th September
Personally, I think he will lose his case. I'm just happy to hear he won't be doing five years of hard labour, which they no doubt would have locked him up for had the situation taken place just a few months later. He is an idiot to fold under the pressure of the keystones. They would never have been able to ding him with possession if he hadn't admitted to it. In fact, I would be screaming duress right now if I were him. HE was never in possession of it after all. At least not as far as they know.
TheNewZen at 06:16 AM JST - 13th September
Forgot to mention the wrestler that hit the guy with the car.
The JSA can only punish him for the rules violation of "Not allowed to drive a car". The legal system needs to take care of the actual accident and the loss of life.
Same way breaking a rule like "don't drive a car" is less of an offense than brining an "illegal substance" onto your employers property.
JSA can only enforce JAS rules and regulations, they cannot prosecute or deport anyone.
HTH.
rtrhead1 at 10:18 AM JST - 13th September
TheNewZen, he KILLED A PERSON WITH A CAR!!! are you trying to tell me that something of that magnitude doesn't bring with it the embarresment to the JSA that smoking some weed does? how can they be compared? and no, the stablemaster was never punished. he was fired, yes. but he allowed a boy to be beat to death and being fired is a slap on the wrist. you and others here would like this guy, for some weed, to be convicted, imprisoned, and deported but no one wants the same for either of these guys who caused deaths. why? because they are Japanese in Japan and this guy is "just" a foreigner. and i'm sure the JSA has some rule in there about killing someone, or at least a rule that says if you do something that would bring shame to sumo you will get fired. they should anyways.
TheNewZen at 10:25 AM JST - 13th September
rtrhead1.
What LEGAL punishment can the JSA hand out? NONE. Can you get your head around that?
The JSA are NOT the cops, courts, immigration, etc. Maybe your own company has rules as such and maybe your company can impose jail sentences, etc.
If you don't like the rules than pedition the JSA to change theirs.
Over and out.
TheNewZen at 10:29 AM JST - 13th September
Oops, I forgot I don't know who was a fault when the guy died, but since the wrestler never got prosecuted he seems to be blameless for it.
Moderator: Back on topic please.
rtrhead1 at 01:20 PM JST - 14th September
it isn't that i don't like the rules. it just seems like they bend, break, and create rules to either prosecute or exonerate whomever they feel is worthy. what do i need to wrap my head around? one sumo kills a person with a car, ISN'T CONVICTED BY THE COURTS and gets a 1 tournament suspension. another sumo ISN'T CONVICTED BY THE COURTS and gets the permanent boot. now you tell me how that is equal. i am just saying they need to be equal to foreigners and japanese alike or else they come off as very corrupt. which they are.
TheNewZen at 01:45 PM JST - 14th September
You will never get it if you haven't got it now, you don't see the real facts only your tinted/biased view.
Lean about the legal system worldwide and you might understand and also learn to differentiate between private/business rules and goverment rules/laws.
I explained it but you didn't get it, just passed over them.
TheNewZen at 02:56 PM JST - 14th September
Last post got removed.
What I am saying the difference is "Intent". You don't get behind the wheel "intending" to hit and kill someone today. But you buy drugs with the "Intent" to use/consume them.
1st is an accident, 2nd is on purpose/with intent.
And if you are a sports-person that knows that they cannot take certain substances into their body(via 2nd hand-smoke, medication, etc) than you stay away from those things and places.
This is the difference and thus the punishment seems out of whack to you. Because the intent ways more than the outcome.