Ericsson sues Samsung in U.S. for patent infringement

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    titaniumdioxide

    Samsung’s positions have been backed up by courts in most of those cases.

    Samsung is a giant now. They can use $$$$$$$ to manipulate things. Shame on you Samsung.

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    basroil

    titaniumdioxideNov. 28, 2012 - 12:58PM JST

    Samsung is a giant now. They can use $$$$$$$ to manipulate things

    Their cash flow is actually tiny compared to Apple. They don't want to waste money on lawyers, and the reason why instead of butting heads with LG or Microsoft, they went for mutually beneficial cross-licensing agreements.

    Ericsson isn't even a player in the mobile phone industry, it's operations were bought out by Sony. Any sane judge would throw out any talk of banning products as Ericsson simply cannot be hurt by the phones (they aren't in the same market). As for the lawsuit itself, it'll end up with either a settlement or Samsung's "victory" (forced mediation or case dropped without prejudice) for technical reasons.

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    titaniumdioxide

    They don't want to waste money on lawyers

    I thought they already burned $$$$$ on their galaxy s3 on lawfreaks http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/04/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-the-first-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/

    Truth will prevail in the end. For now let's enjoy news like these.

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    basroil

    titaniumdioxideNov. 28, 2012 - 03:36PM JST

    I thought they already burned $$$$$ on their galaxy s3 on lawfreaks http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/04/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-the-first-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/

    Apparently you don't know how to read. That entire article is about design changes to specifically address any possible issue apple could have with the phone. No lawyers aside from their own patent lawyers (which are on staff) would have been involved in this.

    In fact, it proves that Samsung tries as hard as it can to avoid litigation, so you've done ME a favor by posting that. Just check out their claim: "When Apple started patent trolling, they basically admitted they weren't going to win in an open market, and they decided to drag Samsung down with them."

    Truth will prevail in the end.

    The truth will be either hidden in a settlement or never again seen because the judge threw the case out. There's also a small chance samsung wins (no money), and an almost non-existent chance ericsson wins (but not given punitive damages). But since money is truth in lawyers eyes, the last two are the same as there being no truth.

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    Kobuta Chan

    If you can't pay and then you shouldn't use it. If you use it and then you must pay for that.

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    Konsta

    I might be wrong, but I think what we see is a general decline of Ericsson to an eventual death. It started several years ago when it stopped producing competitive cool equipment and started catching spies of its technology here and there. Not that Ericsson had any special technology. Then, last year, it was dumped by Sony over the lack of innovative business idea and outright robustness. Now it tries to sue instead of being competitive. Apple also sues Samsung, but at least, Apple produces something worth having. Ericsson is just dying. Hope it will not bring much damage in the process.

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    Serrano

    The day will come when Samsung sues some Chinese company for copying its stuff.

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    basroil

    Kobuta ChanNov. 29, 2012 - 03:43AM JST

    If you can't pay and then you shouldn't use it. If you use it and then you must pay for that.

    Guess you have no clue as to what you are talking about. These aren't physical items here, they are ideas about how to get something done. The issue is, where does one idea start and another end? Many times the patent doesn't even belong to the person that came up with the idea, and other times the patent is irrelevant because multiple people came up with multiple ideas that cover the same issue.

    The case of standards essential patents is even more complicated, since patent trolls like ericsson, that don't use the standards their patents are part of, have leverage over those that use the patents even if the others hold more patents for the same standard. It's like if you owned the trains and licensed the railroad track somewhere (and owned a good chunk of it too), but another guy owned the electricity in just a tiny stretch of it. The owner of that not really important thing can try to charge many times more than they should be able to, simply because they have nothing to lose from not overcharging and you lose money either way (agree to pay clearly bogus rates, or take it to court).

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