Samsung top 2012 phone brand, ousting Nokia

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    Kobuta Chan

    Apple needs to reduce its over pricing Smart Phone price.

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    zichi

    According to data released by IDC, Apple’s iPhone still the dominant smartphone in Japan.

    25% of all smartphones shipped to Japan were iPhones, 23.5% Fujitsu phones and 9.5% are Samsung. http://japandailypress.com/apples-iphone-still-the-dominant-smartphone-in-japan-2020200

  • -1

    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    Samsung on top. Not surprising.

    Zichi talking about a crappy iPhone. Not surprising.

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    zichi

    @Kobuta Chan

    Apple needs to reduce its over pricing Smart Phone price.

    The choice in Japan, is a free iPhone or a ¥72,000 Samsung Galaxy 3, 32GB?

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    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    So comparing subsidized phone (iPhone 5, cause you can't even get an unlocked version in Japan) price to a completely unlocked, non-contract phone price (Galaxy S3). Ya...seems like a fair way to go about things.

    Wonder how much that iPhone costs after all the subsidy is paid off. Probably ¥150,000

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    zichi

    Samsung Galaxy S3 smart phone needs a two year data contract to use it.

    KDDI au/Softbank also offering free iPad mini/iPad with retina display (iPad 4) with two year data contract.

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    zichi

    I don't know if the iPhones are unlocked but the iPads are, I think the KDDI au iPhones are probably unlocked too?

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    Serrano

    I bet a Chinese company will become the top smartphone maker by 2015.

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    Carcharodon

    Samsung Galaxy S3 smart phone needs a two year data contract to use it.

    true, but if you already have one those contracts, drop your SIM card from that existing contract into new handset you bought elsewhere like yahoo auctions at wholesale prices and you're done. Keep using your old contract with new handset. It's what i am doing right now, with a nexus.

    KDDI au/Softbank also offering free iPad mini/iPad with retina display (iPad 4) with two year data contract.

    4800yen a month times 2 years - 115,000 yen. and you are probably also paying for you AU iphone 5 and it's data plan and if you have a hikari connection at home, that soon adds up...to a lot on telecommunications every month.

    Better plan - buy a mobile LTE wi-fi router that will service your iphone 5, your laptop, ipod and whatever else AND then buy a ipad outright for 40,000yen.

    The 2 year "free ipad" deal only makes any sense if that is your one and only device, you don't also have a keitai to supplement and use only a voip like skype for all calls.

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    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    AU's S3 is around ¥30,000 with contract. Definitely not some crazy ¥72,000 yen. That's unlocked phone prices, from a carrier.

    And no, zero iPhones in Japan are unlocked. Not Softbank, not AU, not Apple Japan (unless they changed that in the past like 2 months, which I highly doubt they have). Others are just buying an iPhone 5 from Hong Kong and using a Docomo Xi sim.

    I'd much rather buy an unlocked phone, than pay extra over the course of 2 years, making your phone more expensive.

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    zichi

    @Carcharodon

    recently went with my wife to KDDI au to update her phone to a Samsung Galaxy 3. The manager said the SIM card in my wife's current non smart phone wouldn't work in the Galaxy. Anyway, it turned out that the price was not only too high but also my wife thought the Galaxy 3 was too big for her small hands. We moved onto talking about the iPhone 5.

    While we were there also asked about iPads. Someone with a current au contract can have an iPad Mini/iPad 4 16GB (both same price) @ ¥5775/month or 32GB models at ¥6175/month with a 24 month data contract. With a new contract those prices are ¥1,000/month less.

    A pocket wifi ¥3800/month with a 24 month data contract.

    After much discussion with the manager, on his advice, we decided to buy nothing. My wife will keep her current phone, which she likes (between a smart phone and a dumb phone) and we'll review the situation again in the spring.

    I already have an iPad 2 but I will now buy an iPad 3 refurnished model 32GB wifi from Apple for ¥38,000.

    At KDDI au there's a data deal if you want to use an iPhone/iPad or you can buy a smart phone and just tether to iPad?

    Anyway, we tried to buy a Samsung.

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    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    I don't see how a non-smartphone SIM, won't work in a smartphone. Unless it's one of those mini-SIMs and that's nothing more than cutting off the extra plastic to make it the size of a micro-SIM or nano-SIM.

    1st Gen SIM (SIM) = size of a credit card 2nd Gen SIM (mini-SIM) = much smaller than the credit card size (normally come as the credit card size, so you can use with old devices or break it out and use in more modern devices) 3rd Gen SIM (micro-SIM) = a little smaller than mini 4th Gen SIM (nano-SIM) = pretty much zero extra plastic. Just the metal contact points left.

    You can cut regular SIM down to a nano-SIM and use it without problems.

    I also don't get the pricing with AU. New contract costs less than someone with preexisting contract. Is the new contract worse than the existing one? Like less bandwith or something? Makes no sense. Me personally, I enjoyed my time with Docomo and I'd stick with them. Course, all I have right now is a crappy Softbank phone. I don't use that phone anymore, I just pulled the SIM and use it in my LG phone.

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    zichi

    @Korlacan Khanthavilay

    Thank you for the info. Personally, I don't care about mobile phones, whichever make because I haven't used one for more than 5 years but my wife needs one so that's my involvement.

    When we visited a KDDI au shop in Nov to buy a Samsung Galaxy, the story then was, a 32GB Galaxy (the only one available) would cost about ¥8500/month for 24 months which includes the cost of phone/data. At the time, a 32GB iPhone was about ¥5500/month for 24 months, which made a difference of about ¥70,000.

    There may have been some price changes and will need to check them again.

    My wife's SIM card in her current phone is a bit bigger than micro-SIM. We could put that in a smart phone, if it fits and it will work for phone calls but she does not have a data plan so would have to otherwise use wifi? She don't use it enough to even have a data plan.

    I also don't get the pricing with AU. New contract costs less than someone with preexisting contract. Is the new contract worse than the existing one? Like less bandwith or something? Makes no sense.

    The service for both existing/new contracts is the same but new contracts are about ¥1000/month less than existing ones. The unlimited data is actually about 7GB/month for both (in the small print). It costs ¥10,000 to cancell a contract.

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    LostinNagoya

    I agree that Apple needs to reduce its pricing. An iPhone in Brazil costs U$1,500 - the most expensive in the world. But people don't care about that, all companies that sold iPhone 5 had their stocks sold out in the day of the launch, 12/14.

    But I don't see why Apple sees the need to lower its prices, if people are willing to pay astronomic ammounts for an iDevice. Well, I am, and everybody I know that has an earlier version of iPhones. We all will buy #5 or #6 in 2013. Besides, being the Top One doesn't mean good news necessarily. I see Samsung devices with people without money - the exception is the SIII. And Samsung has more than 15 models, some are given for free. Samsung is popular, because its devices are cheap.

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    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    A SIM is a SIM is a SIM. There is no such thing as an iPhone SIM, Android SIM, or anything SIM. They are all the same. The way the carriers are restricting access is via the Phone's IMEI number. Not like the states, where the IMEI number does a whole lot of nothing.

    Docomo filters through IMEIs on their normal 3G networks, but doesn't with their Xi LTE networks.

    Softbank doesn't seem to care. They don't filter anything. Just connect to the right network or you'll get raped in price.

    AU...I have no idea WTF they do. They're CDMA, GSM, and LTE.

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    basroil

    Korlacan KhanthavilayDec. 21, 2012 - 04:19PM JST

    A SIM is a SIM is a SIM. There is no such thing as an iPhone SIM, Android SIM, or anything SIM. They are all the same.

    Yup, and other than nanoSIM, there's no difference between microSIM and miniSIM, just take a pair of wire clippers and you'll have a perfect fit in a minute! (most modern SIM chips can be made into nanoSIM the same way with some filing down on the back, but varies by company)

    And while there's no such thing and a specific phone SIM (other than embedded ones, but that's different), there are such thing as carrier SIMs, and why people (like originalusername) mistakenly think it's their SIM not working with the phone rather than the phone ignoring their SIM because it has a different carrier code or other lock flag. Simply rooting your phone and unlocking can remove the restrictions, and all SIMs will work just fine.

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    Korlacan Khanthavilay

    Probably most times, it's just the phone is locked and doesn't work with a different carrier's sim. Now Docomo crazy locks down their phone. I had to use a sticker with random copper wires to bypass their phones locks, so I could use a TKS SIM with my old Docomo F905i.

    I bet Docomo would make a killing selling unlocked prepaid phones in the US. Like those cheap Virgin, Samsung, Vodaphone, etc prepaid in the states. I mean, their phones just look better. Just take out most of the extra features and make it a dumb phone, instead of a fully featured phone.

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    Peter Payne

    I went into the AU store to look at the iPad mini and snorted with laughter because, like Softbank, they lock their units to their service. Um, what is the point of an excellent device that lets me go all over the world and toss in any sim I like if you take that feature away from me? My AT&T iPad mini from the U.S. arrives any day now.

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    zichi

    @Peter Payne,

    a manager at an au store told me the iPads are unlocked, that's the only way they can use them?

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    basroil

    http://news.yahoo.com/windows-already-threatening-iphone-southern-europe-183140302.html

    Looks like nokia's fall isn't so much demand as supply!

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