Monday May 28, 2012

Scientists develop high-yield deep water rice

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    Kapuna

    The down side to this is that those who consume this type of rice, will grow taller after a bath or in the rain.

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    franz75

    Good if we can overcome natural disaster but I'm still against modifying DNA.

    This is a ticking bomb.

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    kaemdros

    the article doesn't necessarily say they were messing with the plant's genetic structure, just the genes. they wanted a specific phenotype, so they probably cross-bred rice specimens until they got what they wanted. this type of "engineering" is on par with dog breeding, although once you let it out into the wild, it's virtually impossible to get it back.

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    sharky1

    They need to come up with a way to farm rice in seawater, and growing it in the sand underwater.

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    rajakumar

    High yield deep water rice is good.

    Japan should use huge sea floating platforms and other technology for use of japan seas zones, in producing more food. More human made sea farms/river farms, also could a way forward.

    Farming foods from sea for carbohydrates/protein via from sea weeds/other weeds should be made popular.

    There many other such sea food sources,that should be developed and may have been overlooked .

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    sf2k

    back to reality will be another food crisis in Asia as Australia's drought continues to put rice into serious demise.

    yields must be doubled to meet projected requirements by 2050

    Won't happen. India notes that as global warming increases the ability of a plant to germinate decreases. From science class it's noted that fresh water loses partial pressure of oxygen as it heats up too. Thus more land will be needed at current temperatures or as regions change (some warmer, some not, some flooded some drought). None of this will happen evenly. There is not enough cropland due to overpopulation. How does this not end in disaster?

    Science is helpful but it's not applicable in this case to really addressing the problems of food if the problem is population control. This rice may work but too late and certainly not in any way for doubling of the world rice crop.

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    sf2k

    @rajakumar

    any sea food sources in Asia would be subject to high levels of mercury due to China's inability to care about pollution versus continued industrial growth at all costs. They won't even investigate the obvious corruption scandal that killed so many of their children in schools during an earthquake, so I don't think they're going to care about the seas.

    Why don't you look for your sea food sources in the 150 dead zones that have cropped up since 1970? More are on the way long before we start to respect the nature around us.

    People will look there anyway, true enough. But if we reduced humanely our world population size, determined limits to growth including zero and negative and not positive, nature might even recover enough to allow us to eat.

    Sadly we're unlikely to notice this at all until the next Asian food crisis. Few rich nations will notice this wholly avoidable disaster as we flip between sports highlights and the weather channel.

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    sf2k

    here's a NASA article on dead zones : http://tinyurl.com/nlnsd7

    Within this context, although certainly flood tolerant crops are great, do you think that ignoring the real problem helps? When a scientist develops a fire-free plant while the forest is buring down, I become suspect on the rationale.

    The merit of the science by Nagoya-U is certainly there, that is not my point. We'll certainly need their research given how things are going, but this attitude isn't working. It's just sad that we would not have needed it at all if we actually stopped wilfully killing the planet to begin with.

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    rajakumar

    @sf2k

    The planet has enough food making capability to feed all people,if all people from all nations distribute the food to all nations.

    Humans can live on food produced on soil alone and whatever sea,which is still productive.

    We all need to change our ways to high thinking and simplify our life . There is no need for panic.

    The Planet and nature will feed us,it is meant to do that.

    We all have to change our ways and treat all things on planet as god's property . We all just need to take care of Earth as god's property for next generations. The my or mine altitude should change among people via education,education and education.

    The education is there everywhere,it is just, we are a lead by blind leaders leading blind citizens.

    When people begin to their realised their actual self realised god given self,then they will begin to come out this conditioned blindness.

    The duty of humans to be inquistive,about all things and get educated. We have all got human life,so we must be inquisitive about things.

    Human being needs to control their minds via proper knowledge and become self realised via enquiries about life.

    The people of world today,have become blinded by material possessions and highly materialistic ways of life. Leaders of nations and leaders of business are conditioning us.

    Humans need to change via a new revolution in education and self realisations. The internet news/comments about what is happening to human civilisation/the earth/nature,needs to make us more self realised and civilsed in our ways .

    It ,the internet needs to help us, to change our possesive ways.

    We all need to take care of, god's property the Earth, for future generations . We all need to be less possessive in knowledge/wealth sharing.

    All knowledge/wealth should be given in unpossesive way to all nations in the world ,for all to gain eternally.

    All nations need to mutually teach each other,to become better in taking care of god's property ,the Earth ,for future generations.

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    Farmboy

    Once they isolate the gene allowing a plant to grow in saltwater, they can begin planting Tokyo Bay. Japan's boundaries can expand every year.

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    rajakumar

    corrections- When people begin to change their realisations ,about their actual self realised god given soul self,then they will begin to come out, of this conditioned blindness gradually.

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    Airion

    It's not clear in the article how the genes were "introduced" to the rice. It's probably just selective breeding, but possibly a more hi-tech method. Regardless, genetic modification of plants has been going on since the dawn of civilization. Almost all the foods we eat are radically modified from their natural ancestors, and have been for hundreds, thousands of years. Advancements in rice such as this is just the next step in a very long history of genetic modification.

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    sf2k

    @Airion

    I can't accept that both techniques are the same. So let's note the differences in techniques for genetic modification for clarity.

    So the issue is the difference between selective breeding (SB) and genetic modified organism (GMO). Selective breeding stays in the family so to speak and is at least technically natural while not geographically natural. Human to human, plant to plant, ant to ant etc.

    GMO is not natural at all. Ants mixed with Apples so the apple stays red is not natural. Ants can't have apples for children.

    So if no GMO technology was used, then that's great, it has a future with predictable properties.

    But if GMO was used here, then all natural rice will eventually become this GMO strain! Sadly in the real world once a GM organism is introduced it takes over from the former natural plant, thus in effect deleting all history of that plant's family by being literally a new plant on earth, thus is gone it's capacity to ever be natural again. Kinda like the scientist in The Fly.

    SB you can return to other forms, cross breed to eventually get the characteristics you want, farmers collect the seeds for free, natural system with natural effects.

    GMO you're stuck with one form, farmers pay a hefty fee for each seed, unnatural system with unknown effects not allowed to be tested. GMO is owned by scientists as intellectual property, it's not nature anymore.

    GMO is the first time food is owned on a DNA level. Up until now the farmer was paid to farm it but the seeds etc were from the common.

    No more. Food is now owned. I hope this is not the case here for the sake of all those countries listed here and for us as well.

    Documentary Sources: "The World According to Monsanto"

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    Airion

    sf2k: The SNORKEL genes as described in the article come from a certain strain of rice, not from some other species. The article specifically says that it comes from deep-water rice. The problem is that deep-water rice doesn't produce much, so scientists are taking this gene from one strain of rice and putting it into another, more productive strain. It's in the family, as it were.

    Regardless, there is no reason to believe that all genetically modified plants will eventually dominate. It's doubtful that all the rice in the world will eventually gain this deep water rice gene (if it was so dominant, all rice would likely already have it through natural processes). The rest about intellectual property and DNA ownership seem to be a separate issue (law rather than science).

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    sf2k

    Thanks that sounds better

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