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Self-driving cars not ready for U.S. roads, experts warn

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By JOAN LOWY

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but dont worry, japanese sidewalks are ready for the self-driving mama-chari

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If they came with auto road rage devices, then that would be something.

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"Another safety option on some vehicles automatically steers vehicles back into their lane if they start to drift into another lane without the driver turning on a turn signal."

WOW!!! This might actually force people to use their turn signal now!!! Just checked the weather reports and there seems to be NO cooling trend in hell yet. Hmmmmm.

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They're not ready for ANY roads, nor will they be until roads are LIMITED to self-driving cars only.

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Just found software on line for self driving road rage cars. I want to see how it works.

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I could see this possibly working in a down-town area where the cars only service a specific area. So basically, a limited-range taxi.

In any case, we won't see safe, effective, practical self-driving cars for a long time.

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If they won't run on American roads which are by and large pretty logical and straight-forward, they will probably not run anywhere around the globe.

If the computer keeps giving up in these 'disengagements' and asking the human being inside to take control, then you will need a driving license, and you will be liable in the event of any accident. So why bother?

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If the computer keeps giving up in these 'disengagements' and asking the human being inside to take control, then you will need a driving license, and you will be liable in the event of any accident. So why bother?

Exactly. And you won't be able to "sit back, relax and enjoy a cuppa" on your way to work, either.

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This is 100% correct. I work in AI and artificial intelligence is only artificial, it is not intelligence. The designers of these cars are living in a fantasy because the human mind is capable of dealing with unknowns, whereas the self driving cars are only capable of handling pre programmed conditions. There are simply too many variables involved in driving, even if you had every car converted. The reason AI works for a plane is the lack of variables. Planes have fixed end points, there are almost never situations like random kids playing in the air at 30000 feet. The path of travel is effectively infinite. On a road, there is simply too much variance to account for in algorithms. Then you get to decisions in difficult situations, such as,a driver about to hit kids in a crosswalk or hit another car. We,are going to trust Google programmers with deciding who lives or dies in those conditions?

However the biggest gap is liability laws. If one if these cars kills someone, the driver is responsible. In this case the driver is Google, Tesla? The manufacturer? The programmers? But the,way current laws are, Google would not be held liable, in fact the way silicon valley licensing on software is now, those companies are not held liable for any mistakes they make. The government would hold the owner/passenger of the self driving car, even though this owner did not make the faulty AI. And no, having manual override is not how manufacturers get out of liability, if I need a manual override, in case the AI makes a mistake, not only is that more dangerous, as I would need to take extra time to take over, time saved if I was just driving, but if I can't trust the AI to drive correctly in all conditions, as a human can, then the override itself proves the cars are not ready.

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The Google Drive app on my PC syncs my files only when it feels like it. Google also constantly gives me Japanese language pages and instructions even tho I've told it about 300 times I'm a native English speaker.

There's no way Google should be spearheading driverless cars!

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based on what I seen in New Zealand and Aussie drivers self driving cars could not possibly we any worse, It can only be an improvement

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And this is why the 24 hour news cycle is turning everyone into idiots.

Five years ago, people could quietly nod and look at how far automatic braking, lane change warnings, cruise control, various cameras and sensors, and other gizmos are taking tasks from the driver or assisting the driver.

Two years ago, after progress had been made in different areas, some manufacturers, notably trucking companies, were starting to use technologies to make truck caravans partially driverless.

Then a year ago, GOOGLE, APPLE and TESLA announced breathlessly that they were going to produce driverless vehicles ANY DAY NOW!!! Everyone got their bowels in an uproar and very little real progress was made. A few stunts. Rumors here. Promises there.

And of course that did not happen. And it won't happen for quite a while for.... reasons.

And now all the erstwhile car developers are totally off the hook because.... the roads are bad anyway.

See how that works? Nothing substantial has changed at all, but we got a lot of "news" anyway. Investors were duped. Managers got their bonuses. Everyone got their subsidies. And now everyone can go back to doing nothing of great consequence until Toyota gets there first. Then everyone will cry about how Toyota cheated.

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